Wakanda forever emote?

I had a thought.... I'm sure most of us are nerds and love comics... And with the passing of Chadwick and everything he did... Would it be a good idea to make a "Wakanda forever" emote and some of the proceeds if not all should go to cancer research or something he promoted? What say you?

This would be pretty cool.

Or just go ahead and support a charity in his name anyway since SE hasn't done ingame tributes for real life incidents or deaths so I don't see them starting now.

Yeah, the charity would be best. I doubt Marvel would ever let their Intellectual Property go freely into a video game.

No. This is Eorzea.

No thanks, Chadwick is a person not a character.

I can already see Disney ready with a sue just for existence of this thread

Change it to Eorzea forever, but use the same gesture and problem solved with legal. You can't trademark or own hand gestures.

EDIT: We already have DBZ powerup emotes, etc. Might as well add something like this as well into the Mog Station.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

ou can't trademark or own hand gestures.

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You may want to check what, exactly, is covered by the 'Wakanda' trademark before you give legal advice. It can get quite detailed, and video games are mentioned in the precis.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

Or just go ahead and support a charity in his name anyway since SE hasn't done ingame tributes for real life incidents or deaths so I don't see them starting now.

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I would agree here. I don't recall much that the company did when the actress who originally played Yugiri passed, so unlikely that an outside actor passing would garner much of a response from the game's developers. Not to mention the licensing issues trying to get Disney to let Square use that in perpetuity. And as aggressive as they are in their copyright claims, even the suggestion of making it the same emote but "Eorzea Forever" is so close to the actual trademark that it would also garner copyright infringement lawsuits if it were officially added into the game.

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Originally Posted by Bullhammer

I had a thought.... I'm sure most of us are nerds and love comics... And with the passing of Chadwick and everything he did... Would it be a good idea to make a "Wakanda forever" emote and some of the proceeds if not all should go to cancer research or something he promoted? What say you?

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Who is Chadwick? I literally only play video games so if it doesn't cross over into that and I don't know.

Would love it!

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

Who is Chadwick? I literally only play video games so if it doesn't cross over into that and I don't know.

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Guy who played Black Panther in the Marvel movies.

I would say no to this idea on the grounds that A. he had nothing to do with this game and B. it would be in bad taste to sell something like that.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

Or just go ahead and support a charity in his name anyway since SE hasn't done ingame tributes for real life incidents or deaths so I don't see them starting now.

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WoW does, but "Wakanda Forever!" is already present in one variation. Zandalari Trolls say "Zandalar Forever" when you speak to them. I could see Blizzard possibly adding a Zandalari Troll with a variation of his name at least, though I haven't seen this requested on the forums yet. I wouldn't be opposed to it, and they (Blizzard) have added NPCs in game before as tributes for some very popular celebrities/community streamers. But yeah, SE hasn't done this to my knowledge with FF XIV. I don't see them starting now either.

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Originally Posted by Bullhammer

I had a thought.... I'm sure most of us are nerds and love comics... And with the passing of Chadwick and everything he did... Would it be a good idea to make a "Wakanda forever" emote and some of the proceeds if not all should go to cancer research or something he promoted? What say you?

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I say no.
Nothing against Chadwick, but I do not think that sort of thing really belongs in FFXIV.
If you want to give to some charity, you can do so anyway.

Besides, while I am sure there are plenty of nerds here, I bet most people here wouldn't have been able to tell you who Chadwick was if you had asked them two weeks ago. He wasn't quite that famous.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

You may want to check what, exactly, is covered by the 'Wakanda' trademark before you give legal advice. It can get quite detailed, and video games are mentioned in the precis.

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Well I guess I should go ahead and trade mark the middle finger and the "come here" gesture. The Wakanda gesture isn't trade marked they can't do it its too big of a broad scope to cover. Also putting your arms in cross against your chest is nothing now if SE made the character say "wakanda forever" then they might have legal ground but the gesture alone would be thrown out pretty quick.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

I say no.
Nothing against Chadwick, but I do not think that sort of thing really belongs in FFXIV.
If you want to give to some charity, you can do so anyway.

Besides, while I am sure there are plenty of nerds here, I bet most people here wouldn't have been able to tell you who Chadwick was if you had asked them two weeks ago. He wasn't quite that famous.

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Excuse me? Chadwick wasn't popular until two weeks ago? you do know Black Panther has been out since 2018 right? He is very popular especially in the black community. You underestimate the following of a comic book hero by a country mile.

...Kinda diminishes his impact to reduce his career to a singular role, don't it?

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

I would say no to this idea on the grounds that A. he had nothing to do with this game and B. it would be in bad taste to sell something like that.

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I'm with you.
Like, it's not even tangentially related to FF and never has been.
I had to look up what a Wakanda was, and I read comics.
If SQEX is gonna do something to honor them, the gesture shouldn't randomly be shoved into an unrelated property.

And yeah, I also think it would be in real bad taste to sell it.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

...Kinda diminishes his impact to reduce his career to a singular role, don't it?

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It was admittingly his most famous one, but he did have a pretty good career, even if most of his movies weren't mega hits.

My issue with it would be more it being in bad taste to capitalize off his death. I'm not too worried about it clashing with the game considering we already have Yokai watch and Garo related stuff that don't fit the setting at all.

This isn't like the David Bowie reference in the Antitower where it was released incredibly close to his death, meaning it was meant to be a reference and not a tribute but worked out that way due to timing of it all.

They would have to intentionally add this emote as a tribute and to be blunt only really matters to those that actually knew him, fans are people who could be touched by their performance, their social life if they use Twitter etc, but in the grand scheme of FFXIV while the emote itself would be harmless, purposefully adding it as a tribute emote is not worth it.

To add, did we receive any special item or emote for the passing of Yugiri's original voice actor who while not a celebrity was very connected to FFXIV, No, SE allowed as much time as they could without replacing her voice actress out of respect to her.

Look at KH3 Phil's voice actor died so they left him mute for every country, SE probably would've done the same thing with Master Xehanort if it weren't for the fact he was the main villain of the arc, SE's way of dealing with death is very silent respect when they can, adding an emote isn't their way.

Donate to Charity, help the ones who are actually hurting from their loss of this man, but I think it is very poor taste to try and get a game company who has had no affiliation with the man to make an emote based on him just because you feel everything you do needs to pay tribute to someone you cared about.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

This isn't like the David Bowie reference in the Antitower where it was released incredibly close to his death, meaning it was meant to be a reference and not a tribute but worked out that way due to timing of it all.

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I didn't even take that as a tribute, just a pop-culture reference that conveniently fits the spriggan naming theme - particularly as it comes after the first boss referencing Kermit the Frog.

I don't think there's any need to commemorate a specific celebrity that has no affiliation to this game. If it's something that's in the collective whirlwind of pop culture then it may well get a reference in a quest title or something just because that's what the writers like to do. But not an emote dedicated to one specific person, or they'll have to do it for everyone.

This is a subscription based game, players already pay enough that SE could donate very easily if there is enough request, they don't need to specifically make something to generate money. Overwatch did a Pink Mercy skin for cancer research and yeah it was popular, but how many people brought it just for the appearance and don't particularly care about the proceeds, hmm.

Also no offense to Chadwick, but people constantly die to cancer (have had family members that did), it shouldn't take a celebrity dying for people to be encouraged to donate to research.

Problem is where do you draw the line? I mean it's not as if the character he portrayed or the man himself (as far as I know) had anything to do at all with the Final Fantasy genre.

What about when the next person dies which social media then promotes to dizzying heights of heroism? You can't do it for them all so better to do it for none so you do not offend.

I never heard of this guy until he died. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't think this really has a place in this game's setting, but stranger things have happened I guess.

Just donate to a charity. If you really want to honor and pay tribute, you don't an emote for that.

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Originally Posted by Bullhammer

I had a thought.... I'm sure most of us are nerds and love comics... And with the passing of Chadwick and everything he did... Would it be a good idea to make a "Wakanda forever" emote and some of the proceeds if not all should go to cancer research or something he promoted? What say you?

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Although I agree, I'm sure there are serious legal issues as to why it would never happen.

why not for more famous dead people like michael jackson , Moonwalk emote

Did that actor even know Final Fantasy XIV existed?.


There's no reason why FFXIV should remember an actor who didn't even play this game, if he even knew about it.

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Originally Posted by MPK

No. This is Eorzea.

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I mean yeah but this also isn't the Monster Hunter World. Or Urayasu circa 11945 AD. Or San Fantastico. Or Gran Pulse. Or Eos. Or Edrea.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

I mean yeah but this also isn't the Monster Hunter World. Or Urayasu circa 11945 AD. Or San Fantastico. Or Gran Pulse. Or Eos. Or Edrea.

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Um, all technically true, but since the way, they did things here in 14, it makes me wonder about Grand Pulse and Eos, not sure which game is Edrea though.

The thing is, the worlds and settings of games other than FFXIV having full quests and story content involving those worlds and locations mean that even if it's not exactly the same world as found in other material, those locations are real places in the cosmology of the world where Eorea is a subcontinent. By this I mean, we've only seen two of the 14 worlds in this cosmology.

the rest is in spoilers as there are things revealed in 5.3

It is strongly implied that the First is the world of Final Fantasy (aka the First). The Warrior of Light of that game and the cover art is highly implied to be Elidibus our Elidibus. To compound this further only a small fraction of the first is seen, but it is highly likely that an ancient civilization could have had Mechs, and space station castles. To fight dragons on.

Grand Pulse, likewise is very possibly connected to Barts's world of V.

7 and 10 are also linked.

In fact, if you go through all the Final Fantasy games, and interviews you will find out that the Cosmos of Final Fantasy has always been a series of linked worlds with games on various worlds at different points in their histories.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

Um, all technically true, but since the way, they did things here in 14, it makes me wonder about Grand Pulse and Eos, not sure which game is Edrea though.

The thing is, the worlds and settings of games other than FFXIV having full quests and story content involving those worlds and locations mean that even if it's not exactly the same world as found in other material, those locations are real places in the cosmology of the world where Eorea is a subcontinent. By this I mean, we've only seen two of the 14 worlds in this cosmology.

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You're right of course. Versions of other FF settings or FF settings in their entirety could exist beyond the Source and the First. And there is plenty of planemeldy lore at work in this game.

My point was more that if one wants to argue against having references to other media in Eorzea, well....that ship's already sailed.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

You're right of course. Versions of other FF settings or FF settings in their entirety could exist beyond the Source and the First. And there is plenty of planemeldy lore at work in this game.

My point was more that if one wants to argue against having references to other media in Eorzea, well....that ship's already sailed.

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fair enough. I just wanted to remind you that those places are now officially locations in 14, albeit not necessarily as seen in the source material. On this note, I knew all your referenced locations but one. Edrea, which game world is that from?

Pass, keep everything from outside the game outside.
Yes a tragic death, but so are many deaths.

If we get a emote for every tragic death ... you see where this is going.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

I say no.
Nothing against Chadwick, but I do not think that sort of thing really belongs in FFXIV.
If you want to give to some charity, you can do so anyway.

Besides, while I am sure there are plenty of nerds here, I bet most people here wouldn't have been able to tell you who Chadwick was if you had asked them two weeks ago. He wasn't quite that famous.

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To you. He's probably one of the most prominent actor for African Americans and has done a lot for those communities. There's a reason Black Panther was a cultural phenomenon.

wheres my stan lee emote

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

fair enough. I just wanted to remind you that those places are now officially locations in 14, albeit not necessarily as seen in the source material. On this note, I knew all your referenced locations but one. Edrea, which game world is that from?

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Erdrea is the setting from Dragon Quest XI.

(which is a fantastic game, I definitely recommend it.)

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Yeah, the charity would be best. I doubt Marvel would ever let their Intellectual Property go freely into a video game.

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Disney actually owns it now. So this could be possible due to SE already having a collaboration with Disney.

I think the difference is that SE can easily do an event or a partnership when their media division already owns the license. While Disney and Square Enix collaborated for Kingdom Hearts, it's not quite the same as it was for Dragon Quest the other Final Fantasy game events, where SE definitely owns the rights to the games that were brought in and there's no copyright dispute to have.

It'd have to be done on a friendly crossover terms the way Monster Hunter/XIV did, where each game got an equal piece, or like the Garo event where it was time limited. The Mouse would probably want too much money to make it worthwhile for an MCU crossover.

That said, there's no reason that the players can't do their own in game tributes. ENTM's September challenge theme is MCU.