Seriously? They buffed the MSQ exp!?

I worked hard to level to 80 and you're telling me they're just giving away all those XP for free now from the MSQ in Shadowbringers? Seriously? This is totally unfair

Is it unfair that they wanted to have other people catch up that are behind you in story content?

Is it unfair to people like me who generally have just about level 80 in everything on content and before they buffed EXP in any expansion? I've had everything capped every expansion well before it comes to an end and the next is announced, my fiances managed to get full 80's before I did for the first time, and this was BEFORE THE LOCKDOWN. If they want to buff some EXP stuff for others to catch up so I have more people to play the game with, I'm all for it.

Besides, you have a combat class at level 80 already. Your other combat classes get an armoury bonus so they'll level up faster than your first one did by a good bit.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Is it unfair that they wanted to have other people catch up that are behind you in story content?

Is it unfair to people like me who generally have just about level 80 in everything on content and before they buffed EXP in any expansion? I've had everything capped every expansion well before it comes to an end and the next is announced, my fiances managed to get full 80's before I did for the first time, and this was BEFORE THE LOCKDOWN. If they want to buff some EXP stuff for others to catch up so I have more people to play the game with, I'm all for it.

Besides, you have a combat class at level 80 already. Your other combat classes get an armoury bonus so they'll level up faster than your first one did by a good bit.

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Back in my day getting to Lv 80 was a huge grind now SE made it too easy.

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

BaCk In My DaY gEtTiNg To Lv 80 WaS a HuGe GrInD nOw SE mAdE iT tOo EaSy.

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Back in your day? Of the way back time of July if your join date is anything to go by? I had all my combats at max level within 2 months of 5.0 hitting. If others get to the same point with more EXP available than I had, then good for them. It's just more things people can do and fill out more roles.

I've been playing since 2013. I've gotten every class to max level well before the next expansion was revealed every time. It's not hard to level up. Just because you 'leveled slowly' doesn't mean everyone has to trudge through it as well.

Besides, you got boosted EXP from ARR all the way up to the start of 5.0. You really want to go in to things being 'unfair for you'? When you got some boosted EXP, if you didn't outright buy a jump potion?

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Back in your day? Of the way back time of July if your join date is anything to go by? I had all my combats at max level within 2 months of 5.0 hitting. If others get to the same point with more EXP available than I had, then good for them. It's just more things people can do and fill out more roles.

I've been playing since 2013. I've gotten every class to max level well before the next expansion was revealed every time. It's not hard to level up. Just because you 'leveled slowly' doesn't mean everyone has to trudge through it as well.

Besides, you got boosted EXP from ARR all the way up to the start of 5.0. You really want to go in to things being 'unfair for you'? When you got some boosted EXP, if you didn't outright buy a jump potion?

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And they're making it easier and easier so it's more and more unfair

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

And they're making it easier and easier so it's more and more unfair

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Boo hoo? It's a MMORPG. Many games buff EXP in earlier areas for others to catch up. You think you'd want to level up your rather curiously named alts easier.

But complain all you want about EXP being buffed, it won't be changed back. Kweh.

Low quality bait this time.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Boo hoo? It's a MMORPG. Many games buff EXP in earlier areas for others to catch up. You think you'd want to level up your rather curiously named alts easier.

But complain all you want about EXP being buffed, it won't be changed back. Kweh.

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If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

- Theodore Roosevelt

Hopefully these words make you rethink your position... people these days side with billion dollar companies too often.

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

Hopefully these words make you rethink your position... people these days side with billion dollar companies too often.

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Trolololol.

I did it the unbuffed way, I don't care if others do it the buffed way. Mildly fun bait btw.

You are arguing with one of Titanmens 80 accounts...

I was wondering when they would show back up.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You are arguing with one of Titanmens 80 accounts...

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I will say, I admire his skill a wee bit with how he always seems to teeter riiiiight on that line of "is he serious or just taking the piss?".

Meeh, the MSQ should give enough exp to level to max without interruptions.

And side quests should give enough to level 1-2 other jobs to 80, compared to how it is now where a zone worth of exp gives hardly half a level. Which is quite absurd seeing how long it takes to do. Especially when compared to the exp gained from things you can repeat like dungeons.

Ive seen my fair share of lv 60/70s doing MSQ or keeper to be aware of how poor progression has gotten

what is tc even refering to and why does it matter?

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

- Theodore Roosevelt

Hopefully these words make you rethink your position... people these days side with billion dollar companies too often.

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In this scenario, the "oppressor" is more likely those crying for newer players to 'suffer as much as I did.'

I'm also more the person that thinks it's better to work towards something and earn your reward than getting everything for free. Of course its nice that they want attract new players, but they should keep things fair. This easier making stuff is a bad habit a lot of games followed in the last years. Trying desperate to attract new customers and slapping their current player base in the face while doing so. Of course the lvling can be boring sometimes but its part of the game, why should a new player have it better than every other that already had overcome this hurdle? Why shouldn't new players put the same effort into the game that everyone else has, are they something special?

It's old content. Leveling to 50 shouldn't be a chore in Shadowbringers.

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

I worked hard to level to 80 and you're telling me they're just giving away all those XP for free now from the MSQ in Shadowbringers? Seriously? This is totally unfair

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How long did it take to walk up hill in the snow to go to school? I could care less because I'm already level 80. In fact when I did the MSQ it didn't even have xp.

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

- Theodore Roosevelt

Hopefully these words make you rethink your position... people these days side with billion dollar companies too often.

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In this quote you're the elephant, the foot/tail is xp, and new players are the mouse. Good job.

There has never been a grind to max level in this game (version 1 is an exception of course because there was only leves to level up). There always been enough MSQ and side quests to level up without needing to repeat the same activity twice.

Its sounds like you didn't enjoy your leveling/MSQ experience though otherwise you wouldn't be complaining it took too long... You would be complaining that it's over too soon :p

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Is it unfair that they wanted to have other people catch up that are behind you in story content?

Is it unfair to people like me who generally have just about level 80 in everything on content and before they buffed EXP in any expansion? I've had everything capped every expansion well before it comes to an end and the next is announced, my fiances managed to get full 80's before I did for the first time, and this was BEFORE THE LOCKDOWN. If they want to buff some EXP stuff for others to catch up so I have more people to play the game with, I'm all for it.

Besides, you have a combat class at level 80 already. Your other combat classes get an armoury bonus so they'll level up faster than your first one did by a good bit.

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The troll has been successfully fed.

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Originally Posted by MsMisato

The troll has been successfully fed.

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I know it was a troll post. Only really posted cause I was bored while waiting to fall asleep. Just wanted to see what kind of stuff they'd say if I came off serious. Got a small chuckle from it

exp rewards and requirements have constantly been adjusted every expansion,a nd sometimes during patches.
Trust me, if the exp requirements/rewards from 2.0 were still in place, getting to 50 would take much longer than it did before 5.3.
(same with heavensward, and stormblood. Thought stormbloods nerf wasnt as big as HW, and HW wasnt as big as ARRs nerf)
Also 2.0 made leveling much harder/longer than it was in 1.19. You could easily spend an hour on a Lv1 class and be Lv50, due to how chaining mobs generated unreasonable amounts of exp.
After doing it once, i stopped myself, so id have some jobs to level for 2.0 (I regret not having done it for BRD and MNK, since I dislike those jobs so much lol.)

Back in my day, we had to level to cap in 10 feet of snow, up hill. You youngins today......

:P

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I will say, I admire his skill a wee bit with how he always seems to teeter riiiiight on that line of "is he serious or just taking the piss?".

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It's low quality trolling every time. I remember a time when trolling was considered an art form. They don't make 'em like they used to.

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Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

Low quality bait this time.

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I wish threads made by people I've blacklisted never showed up.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

I know it was a troll post. Only really posted cause I was bored while waiting to fall asleep. Just wanted to see what kind of stuff they'd say if I came off serious. Got a small chuckle from it

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Ah the classic response of "N-n-no I was uh, just testing YOU! Y-yeah! Ha..haha!"

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Originally Posted by Gula

Ah the classic response of "N-n-no I was uh, just testing YOU! Y-yeah! Ha..haha!"

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Nah, just total boredom while waiting for my sleep pill to kick in. Probs didn't read my last reply on the first page though huh

Eh, troll or no the game could use some cutting back on exp here and there and some proper increases in others. :/