Demicrystal Change

https://i.imgur.com/9t7pij2.png

Now, I understand that with the free trial being extended to Heavensward, there could be some concern over gil inflation over time or RMT having to do with gil being too accessible in that patch of content, but I really do think there should be some form of reasonable and direct poetics->gil transfer available for players. Particularly when poetics have a sort of limited usefulness outside of a few avenues like the recent relic weapons.

In theory I suppose people could simply buy raw materials and shunt them off to the MB, but practically I think that would mainly have the effect of crashing markets. Considering that, is it possible for another poetics->gil exchange item to be added to further vendors in either Stormblood or Shadowbringers?

Oh, that happened. Was this change announced somewhere?

I used these a lot for Doman Enclave

I saw it coming. It was nice while it lasted.

Now what am I supposed to waste my Poetics on? (Actually a semi-serious question)

Poetics aren't a bad way to gradually level desynth. I'm surprised they didn't update the 800 poetic per 1 outdated grade 6 materia though.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Poetics aren't a bad way to gradually level desynth. I'm surprised they didn't update the 800 poetic per 1 outdated grade 6 materia though.

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If only they had more CRP desynth items through it though

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Originally Posted by Avatre

If only they had more CRP desynth items through it though

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Blacksmith sucks as well.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Blacksmith sucks as well.

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For BSM I used hunt seals, same with for ALC.

seriously why? what is the point of removing a minor gil source from useless poetics?

Yeah I don't approve of this change, demicrystals gave me a reason to do rouletes when I had nothing else to do sometimes. Anyone have any other suggestions for Doman enclave now?

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

Now what am I supposed to waste my Poetics on? (Actually a semi-serious question)

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Anima weapon?
I also like to get gear that I just turn in to my GC for company seals.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Anima weapon?
I also like to get gear that I just turn in to my GC for company seals.

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for what though? turn in poetics to but armor to turn in for GC seals to turn in for items to sell on market board

demicrystal was just easy dump poetics get some gil was that really so wrong to have exist

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Originally Posted by Nocontribution

for what though? turn in poetics to but armor to turn in for GC seals to turn in for items to sell on market board

demicrystal was just easy dump poetics get some gil was that really so wrong to have exist

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It's nowhere near as efficient, but one could always buy gear and vendor it. It all adds up, after all. Probably won't net people quite as much as demicrystals did but it's still way better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It's nowhere near as efficient, but one could always buy gear and vendor it. It all adds up, after all. Probably won't net people quite as much as demicrystals did but it's still way better than nothing.

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but why? it's so stupid in the same patch where they made getting vendor gear and random stuff you might need for old relics so much more convenient to get the easiest way to convert poetics to gil is stripped away

Poetics to unidentified ore, ore to G3 thanalan soil. The girls in idyllshire are even standing right next to each other.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Poetics to unidentified ore, ore to G3 thanalan soil. The girls in idyllshire are even standing right next to each other.

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At least on Behemoth, Soil prices are utter sh!t because people have flooded the market.

I noticed a similar change to the poetics sink this patch with the Ironworks Shield. For years you could sell a shield to an NPC for 2,000-ish gil, but as of this patch, it's been knocked down to around 200 gil per shield.

I've yet to see any way to turn poetics into gil that's worth more than the peace of mind that you'll have 2000 poetics ready to go the next time a patch brings a good use for them.
I guess that's even more true now.

RMT will eventually ruin this games currency, because SE will nerf anything they touch, they don't think of how it effects players when they need this especially when teleport's are 999 and undercutting is bad in the game.
It's slowly happening.

Cousin said they did it to final fantasy 11 also, you used to be able to make some sort of money and in that game it's super hard to make GIL but there were NM's which dropped Uniq items which could be sold for good amount of GIL then SE put rare/ex stamp on them pretty much killed farming off, RMT took over the market once that was gone and that's when he decided to leave because then RMT made their way to other parts of the game and SE kept nerfing their every way to make GIL putting Legit players in the crossfire basically living on small amounts of currency.

He said it will eventually happen to this game they will target any item RMT does and won't care about what we have to say about it, posting on forums won't help you either.
They'll change a few things around here and there but once RMT smell the Gil that will be nerfed as well.
Also RMT can now travel between market boards and buy and manipulate the market by re-sell and i'll call it right now once it gets out of hand they will eventually stop that.

I'm pretty mad at this change. Demicrystal was my go-to when i didnt need relic or plant stuff.

I thought it wasnt even in the patch notes, but then after finally finding a match for 'price' I got this gem:

https://i.imgur.com/Ah9yjf8.png

This is hurting normal players way more than some subtle method of controlling RMT, if that rumor even holds water.
For soil -- La Noscean has an awk method of acquisition, while Shroud and Thanalan appear to have tanked. Gl getting anywhere close to the pure 40k gil you wouldve had from demicrystals in the past.
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40k gil for the effort of MSQ and maybe 4 other roulettes was totally fair. Just a sad, sad change.

Just noticed this change today as well, at least with the fieldcraft demimateria they told us ahead of time it would get nerfed.. would have been nice to know ahead of time to empty out. RIP, guess I'm just gonna leave my poetics capped from now on.

holpfully they don't attack leavequest turn-in next

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Yeah I don't approve of this change, demicrystals gave me a reason to do rouletes when I had nothing else to do sometimes. Anyone have any other suggestions for Doman enclave now?

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Spend some time in Eureka, if/when you get there. Lockboxes regularly drop all grades of clear demimateria and platinum pieces.

At first, I wanted to save and sell them all off to Doman Enclave to double up. But, their weekly budget is so low, it'll take months, probably near/more than a year to sell them all off solely to the Enclave.

(although, this stockpile is from spending some considerable amount of time in Eureka, still, shouldn't be too hard/long to get what you need. unless you just hate the zones)

An additional downside with the gear changes is that you can only buy augmented gear with poetics, making it much less efficient for desynth.

Perhaps they could expand the poetic vendor a little. Replace the Grade 6 materia with 7 or 8, add special desynth items for 150 poetics for each craft up to 400 skill, or even add a mount for something silly like 500k poetics for a long term goal.

Yeah, noticed this change immediately. They also lowered the prices of the Allagan crafting items you'd receive from Binding Coil of Bahamut from something like ~125g down to ~25g. Lots of stuff like this.

But for real, we need a legitimate poetics sink in the game that isn't just relic fodder. I already have high Desynth in everything, and I have no need to convert poetics into equipment to convert into grand company seals to convert into gil or ventures or what have you. Until this patch, Demicrystals were a good happy medium. Now everything sucks.

Maybe they could develop some sort of mini-game that can be played using Poetics? Something with good but consumable rewards that cannot be traded or sold. Or maybe options that can be sold, but let's be honest, the amount of people that want to offload poetics is so high that any sellable options are gonna hit the bottom of the price floor immediately. There's gotta be something that Square-Enix can implement to make this currency worthwhile for those of us up-to-date.

Well, one option is that you can buy a stack of NQ Goblinol and sell it. It's not that great, since it's 1 poetics to 6.4 gil rate, instead 1 to 20, but it's there.

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Yeah I don't approve of this change, demicrystals gave me a reason to do rouletes when I had nothing else to do sometimes. Anyone have any other suggestions for Doman enclave now?

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Allagan Silver Pieces from the long retainer ventures.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

Allagan Silver Pieces from the long retainer ventures.

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It’s what I use for the Doman Restoration as well.

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Originally Posted by Veloran

https://i.imgur.com/9t7pij2.png

Now, I understand that with the free trial being extended to Heavensward, there could be some concern over gil inflation over time or RMT having to do with gil being too accessible in that patch of content, but I really do think there should be some form of reasonable and direct poetics->gil transfer available for players. Particularly when poetics have a sort of limited usefulness outside of a few avenues like the recent relic weapons.

In theory I suppose people could simply buy raw materials and shunt them off to the MB, but practically I think that would mainly have the effect of crashing markets. Considering that, is it possible for another poetics->gil exchange item to be added to further vendors in either Stormblood or Shadowbringers?

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Free players are a monetary "island".

I will admit, i have like 4000 demicrystals, i wasn't gonna sell em anyway, but it still hurts knowing my 2mil gil worth of demicrystals is now 200k gil worth of demicrystals.