Job Idea: Foebreaker (Healer)

*Please note, this was designed purely for fun and I do NOT expect SE to implement it in any way, shape, or form.*

Foebreaker (FOE)
Damage Reducing Healer with Melee DPS
Weapon: Whips/Whipblades
Attack: Slashing, Melee-Range
Gear: Aiming
Limit Break: One For All
Role Abilities: Healer
Important Stats: DEX for Damage and Healing, MP for Spell cost
Inspiration: Foebreaker from XII: The Zodiac Age, Orator/Mediator from Tactics, Seven from Type-0, Saboteur from XIII, Leblanc from X-2
https://dissidiadb.com/static/img/quistis.1a4d8d7.png

TL;DR Version
Orator + BDSM Dom Healer
Focuses on decreasing damage party recieves and damage enemies deal
Place stacks on enemies with basic weaponskill combo and uses stacks as cost for certain abilites
DPS based on Melee-Ranged weaponskills and abilites but has a stance that increase their range to 15 yalms (with a 10% reduction to damage dealt)

Special Mechanics
Insults Stacks
In order for a Foebreaker to physically break a foe, they first mentally break them.
Certain offensive skills have a chance to place an Insult Stack on enemies.
These Insult Stacks can then be used as the cost for certain skills.
A single enemy can have up to 3 Insult Stacks from a user on them at a time.

Rends
The main use of Insult stacks, Rends target a specific attribute of an enemy and weaken it based on the amount of Insult Stacks the target had.
However, once the Rend is over, the target will gain resolve, becoming immune to that Rend for a certain amount of time.
A target can only have 1 Rend effect on them at a time.

Special Gauge(s): Psyche Gauge
Shows the amount of Insults a selected target has, if they have a Resolve effect on them and how much time they have left, and shows if Spiritbreaker is activated.


Skills

Insult-based Skills
-Armor Rend: oGCD Ability. Uses up all Insult Stacks on a target. Increase Damage done onto a selected target by 6% for 5 seconds per Insult Stack used. Afterwards, the target will gain a Armor Resolve buff, making it immune to Armor Rend for 120 seconds. Instant cast time. 60 second cooldown.
-Condemnation: oGCD Ability. Places up to 3 Insult Stacks on a selected target. Instant cast time. 100 second cooldown.
-Insult to Injury: oGCD Ability. Uses up all Insult Stacks. Damage a selected target and all enemies with in 5 yalms of them. Potency of 200 per Insult Stack used. Instant cast time. 90 second cooldown.
-Love Tap: oGCD Ability. Uses up 1 Insult Stack on a target. Damage the selected target. Has a 50% chance of placing an Insult stack on the target. Potency of 120. Instant cast time. 5 second cooldown.
-Power Rend: oGCD Ability. Uses up all Insult Stacks on a target. Decrease Damage a target can do by 5% per Insult Stack used for 15 seconds. Afterwards, the target will gain a Power Resolve buff, making it immune to Power Rend for 120 seconds. Instant cast time. 60 second cooldown.
-Threaten: oGCD Ability. If any enemy with in 8 yalms of the user has at least 1 Insult Stack, remove it. Decrease the damage all enemies affected can do by 5% for 10 seconds. Instant cast time. 90 second cooldown.
-Schadenfreude: oGCD Ability. Uses up 1 Insult Stack on a target. Whenever a partymember damages the affected via Spell, Weaponskill, or Ability, they recieve a 200 potency heal. Instant cast time. 120 second cooldown.
-Venom Tongue: oGCD Ability. Place an Insult Stack on all enemies with in 8 yalms of the user. Instant cast time. 60 second cooldown.
-Wasp Sting: oGCD Weaponskill. Uses up 1 Insult Stack on the selected target.. Damage the selected target for 18 seconds. Potency of 30. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
+Swarm Sting: oGCD Weaponskill. Upgrade of Wasp Sting. Uses up 1 Insult stack on the target. Damage the selected target for 30 seconds. Potency of 50. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.

Healing Skills
-Altruism: GCD Spell. Heal all partymembers with in 15 yalms of the user. Potency of 300. 1.5 second cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
-Heartfelt Plea: GCD Spell. Resurrect a selected target in a weakened condition. 8 second cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
-Patronize: GCD Spell. Heal a selected target. Potency of 400. 1.5 second cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
+Praise: GCD Spell. Upgrade of Patronize. Heal a selected target. Additionally, if the target takes damage equal to double the amount that was just healed with in 5 seconds of being healed, the enemy that inflicted damage last will receive an Insult stack. Potency of 550. 1.5 second cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
-Fortify: oGCD Ability. Heal a selected target. Additionally, decrease damage the target receives by 10% for 10 seconds. Potency of 500. 50 second cooldown. Gains 1 additional charge via the Enhanced Fortify trait (Max Charges: 2)
-Phalanx: oGCD Ability. For 30 seconds, envelopes the user in a 10 yalm healing aura that heals any partymember inside. Additionally, decrease damage all partymembers inside the aura receive by 2% per partymember affected. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 90 second cooldown.
-Valiance: oGCD Ability. Decrease the damage all partymembers with in 20 yalms of the user receives by 10% for 9 seconds. Once this effect wears off, all affected partymembers will be healed. Potency of 400. Instant cast time. 60 second cooldown. Gains 1 additional charge via the Enhanced Valiance trait (Max Charges: 2).

Offensive Skills
-Whiplash: GCD Weaponskill. Damage a selected target. Additionally, places an Insult stack on the target. Potency of 150. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
-Jeering Lash: GCD Weaponskill. Damage a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
Combo: Whiplash > Jeering Lash: Potency of 200. Additionally, places an Insult stack on the target.
-Death Sentence: GCD Weaponskill. Damage a selected target. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown
Combo: Jeering Lash > Death Sentence: Potency of 300. Additionally, places an Insult stack on the target.
-Whirlwhip: GCD Weaponskill. Damage all enemies with in 8 yalms of the user. Potency of 100. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
-Sadistic Spikes: oGCD Ability. Places a 5 yalm valley of spikes where the user was standing for 30 seconds that will damage all enemies with in and place a 20% Slow on them that last for 7 seconds. Potency of 10. Instant cast time. 60 second cooldown.

Other Skills
-Fervor: oGCD Spell. Decrease damage a selected target takes by 10% for 9 seconds. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.
-Grappling Lash: oGCD Ability. Rush towards a selected enemy from up to 15 yalms away. Insant cast time. 30 second cooldown.
-Spiritbreaker: oGCD Ability. Stance. While activated, the user can hit enemy targets with weaponskills, abilities, and auto-attacks from up to 15 yalms away but all damage the use does is decreased by 10%. Instant cast time. 2.5 second cooldown.

Skills and Unique Traits Levels
1. Whiplash
2. Patronize
4. Wasp Sting
4. Insult Mastery: Allows the user to place up to 3 Insult stacks on a selected target via certain skills.
12. Heartfelt Plea
15. Altruism
21. Love Tap
26. Praise: Upgrades Patronize to Praise.
30. Power Rend
40. Fervor
43. Grappling Lash
45. Whirlwhip
50. Spiritbreaker
50. Fortify
52. Jeering Lash
54. Venom Tongue
56. Phalanx
60. Armor Rend
62. Valiance
64. Swarm Sting: Upgrades Wasp Sting to Swarm Sting
66. Condemnation
68. Fervor
70. Shadenfruede
72. Sadistic Spikes
72. Enhanced Fortify: Grants Fortify an additional charge (Max Charges: 2)
74. Death Sentence
76. Threaten
78. Enhanced Valiance: Grants Valiance an additional charge (Max Charges: 2)
80. Insult to Injury

Design Notes:
I wanted to make a job that used a whip as a weapon. My thoughts were that a whip is best for disarming/disabling and intimidating enemies.
I also wanted the job to be the opposite of AST, debuffing enemies vs buffing allies.

Interestingly, SE did consider a whip-using class back when FFXIV 1.0 was still in development, according to a certain design document that has been floating around the net for years - apparently it was going to be called 'Flayer', alas, nothing ever came of it sadly.

Your ideas are interesting, although I probably wouldn't have it as a healer, as a whip just doesn't go with that image. Still, good work. :)

Foebreaker. Yes!
...healer. what?

A melee healer will always be a no from me.

I'd love Foebreaker as a maiming melee job with some debuffing abilities. It would suit something like a hammer or mace. It could be a slow heavy hitter with rdps potential.

Imagine 3 or 4 Fem roe Foebreakers.....

Foebreaker? So like, they break... foes?

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Originally Posted by Anienai

Imagine 3 or 4 Fem roe Foebreakers.....

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Or a giant Roe dude in nothing but a leopard thong and shades. xD

Class with a whip in FF14. I could see the night RP in Limsa getting very interesting. Sounds extremely interesting and I like it.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Your ideas are interesting, although I probably wouldn't have it as a healer, as a whip just doesn't go with that image. Still, good work. :)

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I liked the juxtaposition of whipping enemies and healing allies. XD
For me, I like the idea of healers not being stuck with just caster-friendly weapons and gear.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

A melee healer will always be a no from me.

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I gave it a stance called Spiritbreaker that will allow the user to hit enemies from up to 15 yalms away but will also decrease the user's damage they do by 10%.

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Originally Posted by Hazama999

Foebreaker? So like, they break... foes?

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Yes by insulting them then breaking either their offense or defense.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

I liked the juxtaposition of whipping enemies and healing allies. XD
For me, I like the idea of healers not being stuck with just caster-friendly weapons and gear.


I gave it a stance called Spiritbreaker that will allow the user to hit enemies from up to 15 yalms away but will also decrease the user's damage they do by 10%.


Yes by insulting them then breaking either their offense or defense.

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I agree about breaking the caster mold, but Chemist could do that much better.


Seems like an unnecessary work around for an unnecessary problem.


For a lore perspective, this is SCH. A lot of their skills are literally just yelling encouragement at party members or insults at enemies. Even Broil in Japanese is called something that could be understood as 'heated argument' I believe.
SCH is basically Orator.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Or a giant Roe dude in nothing but a leopard thong and shades. xD

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Another day at the Gold Saucer.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I agree about breaking the caster mold, but Chemist could do that much better.

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I already did that with my Medic idea. You even commented on it. XD

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Seems like an unnecessary work around for an unnecessary problem.

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How so?
I made a healer that, optimally, needs to DPS at melee range. Most Melee jobs (sans MNK) have at least one ranged attack and there are mechanics that force Healers to separate from the group.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

For a lore perspective, this is SCH. A lot of their skills are literally just yelling encouragement at party members or insults at enemies. Even Broil in Japanese is called something that could be understood as 'heated argument' I believe.
SCH is basically Orator.

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I'm aware.
Aldoquim in Latin can mean to encourage or to reassure and Recitation means to recite something aloud from memory.
I really didn't design this idea with any lore in mind. I just wanted to make a healer that weakens enemy attacks and this is how I interpreted it. >w>

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Or a giant Roe dude in nothing but a leopard thong and shades. xD

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Another day at the Gold Saucer.

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That's at least 70% of the Male Roe population and 50% of the Hrothgar already. >w>

Interesting idea, but I think it suffers a bit from a split personality, and as a result all of the parts seem a bit weak. The heals might be enough to keep a party up during an expert dungeon, but it seems only half as powerful as the existing healer classes. And because of the lackluster heals there won't be much time to engage in the other aspects.

Insults as a mechanic sounds hilarious, but it seems thematically disconnected from the abilities. I was expecting something more in the vein of verbal insults. The potencies of the attacks are really lacking. I also see no combos, which makes for a boring rotation (though that's nothing new for healers). I'm not sold on the RNG-based application of insult stacks, but maybe a 50% chance isn't too bad.

The rend effects seem similarly weak. Up to 3% increased damage for the entire party, versus up to 6% from AST's Divination. And you have to choose between physical and magical damage, which is a major bummer if you have both types in the party. I don't even know how to figure out which type of damage a boss does. Insult to Injury is sort of decent, but not as powerful as the big nuke abilities of other dps classes. Also way long cooldown.

Out of the goons, the heal goon seems the only one worth using. The others just do too little to justify using up what's essentially a 60-second cooldown.

Things I would adjust:
- Buff everything to better match other classes.
- Buff the enemy attack reducing rends a lot so they're an actually viable alternative/supplement to heals.
- Drop the goons. They're just really disconnected from everything else.
- Ditch the magical/physical split from rends.
- A few more direct heals.

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Originally Posted by tdb

Interesting idea, but I think it suffers a bit from a split personality, and as a result all of the parts seem a bit weak.

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Yeah, I had too many idea and didn't marry them all together well.
Thank you for the feedback. I'll work on it. :D

Here are the changes I've made:

Removed
-Goons, Unite, and Command Points
-Magick Rend and Mental Rend
-The Trait Gain from Pain

Changed
-The level skills and traits are gained
-Armor Rend now increases damage done onto a target by 6% for 5 seconds per Insult stack used.
-Insult to Injury now damages all enemies with in 5 yalms of the target
-Love Tap now cost 1 Insult stack to use, has a potency of 120, and has a 5 second cooldown.
-Power Rend now decreases a target's damage dealt by 5% per stack used for 15 seconds.
-Schadenfreude now cost 1 Insult stack and heals any partymember that damages a selected enemy with a 200 potency heal.
-Threaten now decrease affected enemies' damage dealt by 5%.
-Wasp Sting and Swarm Sting now cost 1 Insult stack and are oGCD.
-Praise has been changed to Patronize as your 400 potency heal.
-Fortify gets a charge (Max Charges: 2)
-Phalanx has been changed. Phalanx now envelopes the user in a 10 yalm healing aura that heals all partymember with in for 30 seconds (Potency: 100). Additionally, decreases damage partymember inside receive by 2% per partymember affacted.
-Valiance gets a charge (Max Charges: 2)
-Whiplash now automatically places an Insult stack on a target.

New
-New Psyche gauge shows how many Insult stacks a selected target has, if they have a Resolve effect and how long it still has, and if the user has Spiritbreaker activated.
-Condemnation places 3 Insult stacks on a selected target.
-Patronize upgrades to Praise via a trait. Praise has a potency of 550 and, if the healed target takes damage equal to double the amount healed, the last enemy to damage the target gets an Insult stack.
-New weaponskill: Jeering Lash. Combos with Whiplash for increased potency and places 1 Insult stack on the target.
-New weaponskill: Death Sentence. Combos with Jeering Lash for increased potency and places 1 Insult stack on the target.
-New spell: Fervor. Reduces damage a selected target takes by 10% for 9 seconds.

I want a whip job sooo badly, but I'd prefer it to be Beast Master and have the devs really try to make an effective pet job with it. I thought it might be interesting for Beastmaster to be a tank job (where your pet tanks for you) but alas, we got GNB.

Beastmaster could still be a cool ranged physical DPS though (since we only have 3) since whips are ranged.