We should get "peersonal" Trance in the next expansion.

So really we need to get a personal "unlimited ability that requires us to build up to it. I suggest we do this on the next expansion since we will be in the 90s during it and as all final fantasy's go max lvl is 99 so its about time we get some kind of "real power" that isn't party based.

my suggestion for this is when we reach that point we start earning Merits and from there we pick a "trance" type
based on an emotional signature
anger,love,sorrow,joy etc this trance would then active based on our job. We could link anger to blm for an example and it gets a trance state that upgrades all magic to the next tier during its active time.

That would just troll three types of players

1- play res who don't want to get to lv99 will never get that ability

2- this will also mean people will kick players without trance

3- also depressed people will have to pick sad all the time which is unfair

can we get personal aetherflow . trance isnt as good of a cd

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

That would just troll three types of players

1- play res who don't want to get to lv99 will never get that ability

2- this will also mean people will kick players without trance

3- also depressed people will have to pick sad all the time which is unfair

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1. if your playing you will hit 99 evently no matter what lol
2. and? if your cap lvl 99 you need to keep growing so ya those people kinda deserve it i feel no pity/remorse for those on that
3. how is it unfair when they can pick it if they pick sad and get it doesnt make it unfair when its a choice of "theme type"

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Originally Posted by HeulGDarian

can we get personal aetherflow . trance isnt as good of a cd

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I mean trance as a personal limit break form that allows you to use it instead of being party bound limit break
from ff9

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

1. if your playing you will hit 99 evently no matter what lol
2. and? if your cap lvl 99 you need to keep growing so ya those people kinda deserve it i feel no pity/remorse for those on that
3. how is it unfair when they can pick it if they pick sad and get it doesnt make it unfair when its a choice of "theme type"

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1. not everyone hits 99? like it takes five months to level up to 80 right now so it'll mean you need seven months to level to 99 which is way too long

2. 99 is a troll number too why not make it 100

3. because depression makes people sad so you can't pick other emotions so your trance would just be sad and that means they can't choose other trances which might lead to issues if the sad trance is weak and the "no lie" people will get hurt even mkre

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Originally Posted by RagingStallion

1. not everyone hits 99? like it takes five months to level up to 80 right now so it'll mean you need seven months to level to 99 which is way too long

2. 99 is a troll number too why not make it 100

3. because depression makes people sad so you can't pick other emotions so your trance would just be sad and that means they can't choose other trances which might lead to issues if the sad trance is weak and the "no lie" people will get hurt even mkre

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1. lol no it doesnt it takes 2 months tops (maybe 2 and a half if ur a dps) (and thats if your lazy and just got on for the daily roulett but if your really leveling you can hit 80 in about 3-4 weeks
2. ff's cap has always been 99 that why lol
3. its still a choice if they pick it cuz they are sad thats still a choice which is still fair lol

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

1. lol no it doesnt it takes 2 months tops (maybe 2 and a half if ur a dps) (and thats if your lazy and just got on for the daily roulett but if your really leveling you can hit 80 in about 3-4 weeks
2. ff's cap has always been 99 that why lol
3. its still a choice if they pick it cuz they are sad thats still a choice which is still fair lol

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1. no I actually counted the number of days it took me to get to 80 and it was 5 months

2. ok but then you'll only have 9 levels of content in the next next expansion which makes me feel like I'm being cheated out of my money so it should be 100.

3. no you can't choose if ur depressed you'll just be sad and you can't get out of being sad so that's a big problem

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

2. ff's cap has always been 99 that why lol

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Mystic Quest: 41
FF8: 100
FF15: 120

You are trying to have a talent system, which is just illusions of choice. Everyone expects job x to have a specific one and anything else will be shunned. If you are limiting them on a per job basis (only one job can have a specific one), you are just adding additinal, arbitrary limitations on the armoury system and making it more difficult to play another job.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

Mystic Quest: 41
FF8: 100
FF15: 120

You are trying to have a talent system, which is just illusions of choice. Everyone expects job x to have a specific one and anything else will be shunned. If you are limiting them on a per job basis (only one job can have a specific one), you are just adding additinal, arbitrary limitations on the armoury system and making it more difficult to play another job.

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okay this "illusionary choice" Bull-sh!t needs to come to an end.. If there is a choice its a choice period ... its not an illusion because alot of people copy paste from another... even if its shunned its still a choice if it allows you to make it ... also there are ways to hide a persons choice's ~_~ like make it only visable for them to look at so ya

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

okay this "illusionary choice" Bull-sh!t needs to come to an end.. If there is a choice its a choice period ... its not an illusion because alot of people copy paste from another... even if its shunned its still a choice if it allows you to make it ... also there are ways to hide a persons choice's ~_~ like make it only visable for them to look at so ya

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How is it BS that certain choices are illusory? If there is only one meta everyone picks that meta. If you wear anything below the "meta" item level in dungeons people will kick you without even trying to discuss like adults. I witnessed many people being kicked for "too low ilvl" in the Vault.

Historically games with a wider amount of choice either require an extremely tight balancing team, rotating meta events, or just resignation that everyone is just going to choose the same thing at the end anyway. For systems that do it right, see games like Path of Exile.

PoE needs this to keep the game popular because without their regular schedule of events, the game population just couldn’t be retained. A lot of their team are focused just on this meta development.


FF is a much deeper game overall in terms of story, length and general “stuff to do”. There is always something your character can be doing. So, devoting the massive amount of resources (time/money) to balance or meta development around these “trance” abilities would be a waste of time.

There is a reason the cross class stuff from FF14 1.0 was removed, and why with every expansion they try to unentangle the various jobs/shared abilities.

This kind of system is touched on in FF11 in both sub jobs and the merit system..but ultimately both resulted in either “you want to tank as Pld = must sub job warrior” or “endgame big monster tank? Ok you can join but only if you can do Pld/nin to blink tank/kite”.

So if you wanted to play paladin at endgame, your only options were to have all relevant sub jobs up, no real debate. (You just wouldn’t be invited if you were doing something janky)

The only way I think your idea would work would just be individual limit breaks for a single use heavy hit/buff/heal.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Historically games with a wider amount of choice either require an extremely tight balancing team, rotating meta events, or just resignation that everyone is just going to choose the same thing at the end anyway. For systems that do it right, see games like Path of Exile.

PoE needs this to keep the game popular because without their regular schedule of events, the game population just couldn’t be retained. A lot of their team are focused just on this meta development.


FF is a much deeper game overall in terms of story, length and general “stuff to do”. There is always something your character can be doing. So, devoting the massive amount of resources (time/money) to balance or meta development around these “trance” abilities would be a waste of time.

There is a reason the cross class stuff from FF14 1.0 was removed the system, and why with every expansion they try to unentangle the various jobs/shared abilities.

This kind of system is touched on in FF11 in both sub jobs and the merit system..but ultimately both resulted in either “you want to tank as Pld = must sub job warrior” or “endgame big monster tank? Ok you can join but only if you can do Pld/nin to blink tank/kite”.

So if you wanted to play paladin at endgame, your only options were to have all relevant sub jobs up, no real debate. (You just wouldn’t be invited if you were doing something janky)

The only way I think your idea would work would just be individual limit breaks for a single use heavy hit/buff/heal.

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And most jobs already have those in "signature" moves. SAM has Midare Setsugekka, BLM has foul, PLD has Confiteor/Hallowed, Etc.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

And most jobs already have those in "signature" moves. SAM has Midare Setsugekka, BLM has foul, PLD has Confiteor/Hallowed, Etc.

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I see where OP is coming from though.
It's something that could be expanded on.

Personal Limit Breaks are actually what your weaponskills actually are, or at least were meant to be originally - it's why we had the TP gauge (Weaponskills came from FFXI where it was literally a Limit Break that could not be used til you built up enough TP to let rip with one), and this idea continued into FFXIV 1.0. With ARR however, how TP built up was altered - as mentioned in FFXI and 1.0 it gradually built up over time as you landed successful auto (physical) attacks on the enemy; with ARR however, you already started with a full TP gauge and gradually consumed TP with each weaponskill you used til it was all exhausted, gradually refilling with time, so weaponskills gradually drifted from being Limit Breaks you used once in a while to basically just fully fledged abilities you could spam pretty much to your heart's content, a shift that was complete when the TP gauge was completely removed from the game.

As there is a party-wide Limit Break system in place, and certain weaponskills have requirements that have to be met before being able to be used I do not see SE implementing 'personal Limit Breaks' I'm afraid.

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like it takes five months to level up to 80 right now

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You can level a combat class and all your crafter/gatherers to 80 in ~6 days.

And that's counting the time I fell asleep logged in.

You can probably do just 1 level 80 in ~4 days if you optimized it.