Okay I found out that AST, as per its tarot inspirations have ways of doing readings, a 3 card spread (The Trinity IIRC, not sure if that was Sleeve Draw was based around) and a 6 cardspread (Dawncross IIRC). I would appreciate it if AST has actions similar to BRD's performance actions that allows them to preform readings like those.
We need Tarot reading actions for AST.
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07-12-2020, 03:34 AMMorningstar1337We need Tarot reading actions for AST.
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07-12-2020, 03:47 AMItMe
I'm not sure I follow.
What are you proposing these readings actually do? -
07-12-2020, 04:31 AMMorningstar1337Add a small bit of flavor to the job. Like perform a reading of 3 or 6 cards, and have it pop up in the chat text. (though only outside combat). the readings would do nothing gameplay-wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItMe
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07-12-2020, 05:00 AMSaccharinChat spam. No thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morningstar1337
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07-12-2020, 05:13 AMLolitaBansheeMeruwell easy fix make it not show up in the chat like make it hover over your characters head like the npcs talking tbh i wish we could control that to just make an emote /chat bubble above head instead of showing in the chat itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Saccharin
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07-12-2020, 08:27 AMItMe
Ooooh!
I get it.
That'd be pretty cool. -
07-12-2020, 08:44 AMEnla
Honestly this'd be fun! And since it's a simple tarot reading it wouldn't really require that much effort to program.
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07-12-2020, 10:24 AMAngelCheese77Well depends on what type of tarot would be used. I don't know what kind is in FF14 as I've not heard of such, but there are many kinds IRL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enla
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07-12-2020, 11:12 AMMorningstar1337I mentioned earlier that there seem to be 2 ways of reading, one with 3 cards and one with all 6 in a cross spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngelCheese77
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07-12-2020, 05:00 PMNeriThat's gonna give people reason to ask for chat bubbles in the future though.Quote:
Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru
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07-12-2020, 08:25 PMJoven
What about an interface like the Triple Triad where it's only seen by those participating in the reading?
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07-12-2020, 09:39 PMVictorTheed
No ty, I'd rather them focus on more time themed things with Astro and I'd like to have my MP card back.
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07-13-2020, 12:55 AMDoozer
Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but from my experience with reading tarot, there's nothing simple about a reading no matter how many cards you use. I think it's a bit more complex than something that can just be programmed into the game, and even more time consuming for all players involved to actually take the time to read them.
It would be cute if all jobs had a special non-combat action (see: performance), but I don't know if actual tarot readings are good for AST. Especially since most people who could access it probably don't even know the first thing about tarot. -
07-13-2020, 02:40 AMEsmoire
I'd love this. In general more fun flavourful stuff for the jobs like bard performance or ninja's taking less fall damage.
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07-13-2020, 03:01 AMelioaiko
This would be fun, it would be nice to have tarot related things to do outside of combat. Honestly it be cool as an emote or idle stance.
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07-13-2020, 03:46 AMTheodric
I think it'd be a neat addition to the game. Ideally, I'd like all jobs to have a non-combat related activity to engage in for the sake of amusement. BRD already has the performance feature, so I'm sure similar things could be added to at least some of the other jobs.
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07-13-2020, 07:31 AMLiumI support this! Would be fun! I have AST at 80 and it's be cool to stand in Limsa and give out readings. Definitely add some flavor and more social interactions. Especially with how good the in-game community is, this could be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morningstar1337
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07-14-2020, 06:38 AMPayotz
More job flavor outside of combat would be amazing.
I support this, not just for AST, but for all of the jobs. -
07-14-2020, 06:39 AMVahlnirI've been trying to brain storm what GNB could get. Maybe they can go to the nearest wall and appear to be conversing with no one in particular. Or maybe they can get a special emote called "Whatever".Quote:
Originally Posted by Theodric
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07-14-2020, 06:43 AMHeulGDarian
Excuse me but . have you thought idk, casting the ability and then tell them your "divination"
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07-14-2020, 07:03 AMShougun
Similar to another concept Roda and I had recently (and others of course, like it has strong relationship to what Theo was asking for), but I'd love for job's fantasy to be present in many ways (dragoons lord of jumping yet somehow break their ankles after 10 feet from fall damage). So just to say up front, I think it just being a cosmetic fun is cute- and nothing below is 'needed' but I do like functional fantasy like how in WoW the mages can cast slow fall, the warlock had a scouting eye, the druid could turn into a water creature to swim faster / act as a mount for friends, etc (many more examples of class fantasy in WoW, and many many more if you include some of the toys / racial concepts too).
So like here, not only can they tell your future, or the vibe of your future, with a cute card drawing mechanic / UI (like Mahjong has a UI), with even a bit of 'AST' influence like you draw a card and the AST gets a set of potential interpretations of said cards, but it might actually do something too!
I could see the interpretations having a simple but interactive mechanic where each card has a series of card unique potential interpretations and a few generic ones that go cross most cards, there would be positive, negative, and neutral readings, the more positive readings you do the more stress upon the stars (or whatever cute lore wording you want to use), such that more positive interpretations decrease the chance you'll draw positive options for the next card drawn and will increase the severity of negative options, and will reduce lord stress while also adding lady star stress. Neutral will bring balance between the two (bringing back to a balanced state). Finally negative will increase the chance of positive as well as severity of positive, reduce lady stress, and increase lord stress. Stress of either type increases the chance to end the card reading early (minimum of 3 card reading, maximum of a 9 card reading); however higher stress of a particular type increases the chance you'll draw that specific card (lady / lord).
Keeping it simple (ish lol) each reading, positive or negative, will apply a buff in the end that'll have the effects read through out. Like one particular interpretation while reading Ewer positively will increase experience by like 1%, while reading it negatively will decrease soul bind rate by 1%. None of the buffs will be active in savage or ultimate content. You can cancel the buff at any time but you may only get a functional reading once a day (doesn't have to have the functional limit, just concerned people will farm results and make something that's meant to be cute more like a grind), and the buff is packaged as one unit so you've got to take it all or none of it.
So you vaguely would be able to read the reading to the player at the end as a complete but silly chain, like astrology signs in real life might be read. "Today gemni you'll have an easy time meeting friends who will be of great help to you, but because of that friendship you might be betrayed by one of them" lol.
Can do more complex things like the AST picks a theme, like a mad lib then you read out the cards and pick interpretations of each card drawn to make the story and each theme has a rating scheme at the end that'll buff you accordingly to that theme. Would make for some funny stories. Other concepts might be adding some interaction for the player being read, being able to add positive luck to cards that are face down on the table (not drawn/known to either player yet), and like reroll a reading based on how unlucky they've been so far.