Tidbits for future Expacs! What are your wishes?

Yes, we all know everyone wants Housing fixed. Yes, we know Monk needs a revamp. This topic isn't for trying to get SE to let you squeeze 5% more efficiency out of your rotation. This is purely for fun little things you'd like to see in future patches or expacs, like the return of an NPC you really like, or a monster you want to see as a mount, or just funny interactions you'd like to spice up dialogue.

For example; I'd love to see Scions sidelined from the main plot in non-life threatening ways. Character bloat is a thing, and sometimes certain characters need to take a backseat. But could we have Y'shtola go visit her sister and assure her she hasn't done anything stupid (recently?) Or have Thancred unable to assist you on a mission because he's in bed with a cold? (Bonus points if you end up bringing him soup.) Little things that make them seem more... real, or at least points out how married to the job these lovable idiots are. You don't have to nearly kill a character in order to re-route them to the sidelines.

Seriously, if Y'shtola nearly dies or uses Flow again as a way to sideline her I am going to punch someone.

The problem with sidlining them without it being something major is given theirs and our profession is saving the world(s) theres no reason for them to stay sidelined in that instance, if the world is ending or threatening to end then Thancred is getting out of that bed, Y'shtola is cutting her vacation short.
Even when you give them important goals of their own, like how Lyse is helping rebuild a nation, what good is that if there's no longer a world for that nation to inhabit? She was sidelined by force, she'd have come if she could, but physically couldn't.
Now you could do it and they have in the past by simply giving them equally important plot things to do, like how Thancred was absent for several patches while he crept about in the Empire.
Personally though, I'd rather they didn't, I really like having them with us, most FF's you have your main party throughout and while some members come and go you often have your core team for the majority and I like that.

As for what I'd like to see, outside of the obvious ones, I'd really like to see a new healer, I'd like to see either something done with the companion system, they teased us back in 2.x with our Magitek armour being one, but the system has been long abandoned, I had hoped perhaps that was the end point for the Role Quest NPC's, they'd be travel and combat companions, and with their intergration into the MSQ my hope remains.

I'm hoping for unlocked replica versions of the Animaliege sets. ...and Charteuse dye

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Originally Posted by TinkerTech

Yes, we all know everyone wants Housing fixed. Yes, we know Monk needs a revamp. This topic isn't for trying to get SE to let you squeeze 5% more efficiency out of your rotation. This is purely for fun little things you'd like to see in future patches or expacs, like the return of an NPC you really like, or a monster you want to see as a mount, or just funny interactions you'd like to spice up dialogue.

For example; I'd love to see Scions sidelined from the main plot in non-life threatening ways. Character bloat is a thing, and sometimes certain characters need to take a backseat. But could we have Y'shtola go visit her sister and assure her she hasn't done anything stupid (recently?) Or have Thancred unable to assist you on a mission because he's in bed with a cold? (Bonus points if you end up bringing him soup.) Little things that make them seem more... real, or at least points out how married to the job these lovable idiots are. You don't have to nearly kill a character in order to re-route them to the sidelines.

Seriously, if Y'shtola nearly dies or uses Flow again as a way to sideline her I am going to punch someone.

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sily op , its obvious that all miqos go to the flow when they disappear from your sight.

I want more story focus on the Warrior of Light and better character writing in general.

Also more Far Eastern armor items and gears and Replica sets of the Deltascape Armor. Tifa's outfit from FFVII too. It would be great to replace my chocobo with a Scion or retainer during combat. My Chocobo is maxed out and it's kind of boring at this point.

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Would be cool if (real) Scions end up WoL antagonist. I'd love that. They should take more risks with the story. I'm still dissapointed Thancred isn't dead, they had the perfect opportunity to have an impactful and emotional death but no, you just see him 5 mins later chilling with the rest of the scions as if nothing happened. Wth?

I want to see more legit downtime activities you can do with friends. Like actual theme park attractions; actual fun, fleshed out mini games like Majong. Not a gimmicky made for FF game like triple triad, more...Mario party? Or chess? Or stuff like Guildwars does.

Basically somethings we could do as a FC that is not combat skill or level dependent. Ocean fishing..if the boat actually moved...would be great!

It boils down to this: the entirety of my FC have played games together for well over 10 years (from FF11). We sometimes play other games together and we also have different interests when comes to Ff14, so we don’t often actually play together as much as we would all like. This eventually just leads to us doing treasure maps or wondrous tales trials.. would be nice to be silly and play tag or dodgeball...as long as it was done well.

The problem is I don’t think the engine is built for this... what could have been a very Mario-kart like racing game became quite...cheesy, so I don’t expect much.

cooler gear design, like the late allagan gear set from PVP. That was pretty cool.

More Quality of Life changes (inventory space, housing item limit increase, glamour dresser limit increase etc)

A I R S H I P

H O U S I N G

Imagine a house that can come to you.

Anywhere, any time... Okay, not in instances but besides that!!! Just let me become Setzer you cowards.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

They should take more risks with the story. I'm still dissapointed Thancred isn't dead, they had the perfect opportunity to have an impactful and emotional death but no, you just see him 5 mins later chilling with the rest of the scions as if nothing happened. Wth?

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It's definitely jarring to see him alive and well, but they did set up for it in advance - while we took the trolley south, Urianger went to meet up with the twins and then catch up to us later. So those three (being two healers and a red mage!) would have been travelling through the same place and found him there, presumably in the nick of time.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It's definitely jarring to see him alive and well, but they did set up for it in advance - while we took the trolley south, Urianger went to meet up with the twins and then catch up to us later. So those three (being two healers and a red mage!) would have been travelling through the same place and found him there, presumably in the nick of time.

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Character bloat is a problem though and knocking some character out of the game could up the stakes and add more focus to the remaining characters. We got all the Scions bodies totally vulnerable at the moment and nobody's come knocking to try and take them out despite the security being a joke.

Honestly, after the Sultana turned out alive, I kind of threw major character death out the window outside of very few instances as they can very easily feel “game of thrones“ cheap. A good character death is something built up and earned, especially in sacrificial deaths like shiva.

All that said I think the only really impactful death so far is Hauchefant.

I never for a moment thought Thancred was done because it’d have felt too cheap, especially after the tedious fight just before.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Honestly, after the Sultana turned out alive, I kind of threw major character death out the window outside of very few instances as they can very easily feel “game of thrones“ cheap. A good character death is something built up and earned, especially in sacrificial deaths like shiva.

All that said I think the only really impactful death so far is Hauchefant.

I never for a moment thought Thancred was done because it’d have felt too cheap, especially after the tedious fight just before.

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I felt like Thancred's death would have been built up and earnt, being the ultimate sacrifice to let Ryne be who they want after taking care of her for so long and being very conflicted with the choice at hand. Holding back the enemy by using that dangerous stealth life force trick which ends up draining too much and killing him, but was necessary for victory in that fight as you as the player started feeling closer bonded to Thancred for actually playing as him in a long and tough fight.

Ryne would come back and see Thancred dead, never able to get his approval after her choice and decides to be extremely determined for using her powers to full extend for good, making sure his sacrifice wasn't for naught. Cause right now I really didn't feel why she's so damn determined to be part of the scions and give her all etc.

Idk, personally was really ready to get emotional at that moment, it felt great and I was impressed but was really dissapointed to see him alive and well.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

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I think I would have bought it if it was indeed more earned. I guess I felt it wasn’t..what’s the word.. cinematic enough? Like the end of 2.0 where you are running from Ul’dah I legit thought people were dead. After that? Kinda hard to “fool me twice”.

I was def. pissed and seeing red after that fight, but dead? Didn’t buy it for a second.

Permanent 2B butts!

It's not really a little request but it is outside of the usual big stuff we're likely to see.

I'd like to see a unification of the companion, squadron and trust systems. Let us bring a member of our Squadrons out into the world with us instead of our chocobo. Maybe even let us use our chocobo in a dungeon alongside the available Trust NPCs. Expand squadron levelling up through level 80 (90 in 6.0?) to match Trust levels. Let us take any combination of companions into Deep Dungeons with us. Etc. Just unify it all into one self contained system instead of having it as 3 different but similar systems that all feel disjointed and incomplete.

tbh a new healer for one i honestly idc which...

for two (this might be a worthless dream) but i want to be a damn pirate already... for LImsa lominsa till sea swallows all.. but seriously corsair please please please

3 if neither of those id like underwater housing lands and hammer job

and 4 levithan summon

:( I just want SCH to be fun to play again.

one story instance where wol pilot ultima weapon pls ("fix" by cid so its safe to pilot) let me have gundam moment in FF14 lol

I just want to explore more of Othard and take a trip to Thavnair finally

That the story will stop being so focused on the WoL. I'm tired of being told that I'm the hero; that I'm the only person who can solve Eorzea's problems. Fantasy is at its best when the protagonist isn't special, but rises to the occasion anyway. We've been marked in this game since level 1, and after 5 years, it's become immensely tedious.

Oh, and get rid of the Scions. I don't want them around anymore. I don't need a "special friends" supporting cast that shows up every expansion to lick my boots.

I want to explore new continents on the source world all alone. Even though I do like the twins and shadowbringer has at least made me care a bit about the rest of the scions (as in: they are okay but I dont care if they die) I still wished we could just leave them behind and explore new regions on our own. Maybe even in lands where we are not known and thus can travel a bit without the "WoL" part on it. I also would love to have less stories about war between countries and more personal stories about different people. Heck I am looking forward to more beast tribes because I like those characters a lot more than most of the "human" races.

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Originally Posted by Edax

Character bloat is a problem though and knocking some character out of the game could up the stakes and add more focus to the remaining characters. We got all the Scions bodies totally vulnerable at the moment and nobody's come knocking to try and take them out despite the security being a joke.

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I am not a friend of killing a character just to have a bit of tragedy in the story (looks at a certain elezen) especially if the death makes no sense. But I agree a bit with the scions..its so annoying to see the amount of plot armor Ysthola has..you see NPCs that could have been interesting dieing to one sword hit and yet Ysthola somehow survives a direct, harsh blow from Zenos which honestly should have cut her in half..but no she is the darling of FF14 and thus should survive anything..

So FF14 does suffer a bit from either killing of characters for the sake of drama and at the same time keeping characters alive that should be death (looking at a certain samurai here..). Only a few deaths imo are meaningful and great (and make sense)...

A well written and believable redemption arc for Gaius.
One that acknowledges his faults, his mistakes and his sins and builds on his principles to redeem him.
Preferably without the cheesy and overused sacrifice at the end.
He has several redeeming qualities that can be used as motivation for him to be a better man.
Because I really think he could grow into a fantastic and interesting character as long as his past isn't glossed over with a "Yeah well it happened, it was bad and all but let's forget about it and work together, k?".
He already showed more depth and emotion than some other characters, please don't let that potential go to waste. I love a nice "Enemy to ally" story, it makes for a much more interesting dynamic and relationship than people just getting along and having the same goals from the get go. And they could make a whole 2h long cutscene about Estinien and Gaius on missions and I'd probably watch it.

My wish is that they'd update the squadron level and AI, so we could run ALL the dungeons up to 71 with them (since we have Trust system from there on), no matter the class/job you are playing. It would be a ton of fun for me, and the chance to run dungeons that I have only done once (personally, I am not fond of df except for raids and frontlines, and the unfortunately remote possibility of running with 3 friends; while I find pf useful for old Ex mount farms, or helping someone to have a first clear for their msq or their Hildibrand). And if I want to dream on, I'd love to be have the chance to do trials with squadrons and Trusts too.

As for the story, Natsuko Ishikawa has earnt my trust with the whole Shadowbringers and the Dark Knight job story, so I simply wish that they let her go wild and she can surprise and enchant me again :)

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

That the story will stop being so focused on the WoL. I'm tired of being told that I'm the hero; that I'm the only person who can solve Eorzea's problems. Fantasy is at its best when the protagonist isn't special, but rises to the occasion anyway. We've been marked in this game since level 1, and after 5 years, it's become immensely tedious.

Oh, and get rid of the Scions. I don't want them around anymore. I don't need a "special friends" supporting cast that shows up every expansion to lick my boots.

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On your first point, I felt it was more about Boobfilia and her band of misfitly sidekicks, followed by a guy who tried to join the Backstreet Boys. The Warrior of Silence was kind of just there being an errand boy when all the full time postal workers were on vacation. Then came Alphinaud and his God complex trying to run things, while pushing the Warrior of Please Spare Me This Misery And Kill Me Now further into the background. When he comes into his own as a man, I thought you know, the Warrior of Background was finally gonna get some screen time, but here comes a wanna-be and very poor example of Michelle Rodriguez, Alisaie.

I get to the esteemed Shadowbringers expansion and supposedly it is all about the Warrior of We're Not Sure Which Time of Day Anymore, and riiight from the very beginning I get turned into the Warrior of Casper and then what else I'd get is the Scions all being mouth pieces and stealing more spotlight, with the failed Backstreet Boy applicant still mourning over Jessica Rabbitfilia. By this time I was getting a little annoyed.

I'm totally on board with getting rid of the Scions.

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

I get to the esteemed Shadowbringers expansion and supposedly it is all about the Warrior of We're Not Sure Which Time of Day Anymore, and riiight from the very beginning I get turned into the Warrior of Casper and then what else...

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I may not agree with your opinion, but I love these titles and I'd love to see a cutscene with someone just.... ragging on the WoL and their 'special heroness', no respect at all. It'd probably be Nero, thinking about it. The Exasperation is pure gold. It would be so fun if it was the WoL him/herself, but since they are eternally bound to be the Warrior of Nod Until They Stop Talking... not likely.

Really, you could combine like, five of the above requests and have a World-hopping adventure with Nero. No Scions, unknown territory, an ally that has almost no respect for you.... Fun Abounds! Bonus points if you can tie in/parallel Gaius' redemption arc with Nero's.

More far eastern and middle eastern themed gear and weapons. Also another animalistic humanoid race, preferably fox/kitsune boys and girls. And lastly a shape shifter job who's mechanic is building up gauge then using it to temporarily transform into a powerful beast and perform furious and elegant attacks. Also more kitsune themed stuff in general. And more Carby. Never enough carby imo.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I am not a friend of killing a character just to have a bit of tragedy in the story (looks at a certain elezen) especially if the death makes no sense. But I agree a bit with the scions..its so annoying to see the amount of plot armor Ysthola has..you see NPCs that could have been interesting dieing to one sword hit and yet Ysthola somehow survives a direct, harsh blow from Zenos which honestly should have cut her in half..but no she is the darling of FF14 and thus should survive anything..

So FF14 does suffer a bit from either killing of characters for the sake of drama and at the same time keeping characters alive that should be death (looking at a certain samurai here..). Only a few deaths imo are meaningful and great (and make sense)...

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I am not a friend of killing a character when it makes no sense. I'm not fond of bad writing. But we are fighting a war and yet more and more characters are being added with each expansion. There is an overabundance of characters and fake-out deaths at the moment and it's a growing problem.

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Originally Posted by Edax

I am not a friend of killing a character when it makes no sense. I'm not fond of bad writing. But we are fighting a war and yet more and more characters are being added with each expansion. There is an overabundance of characters and fake-out deaths at the moment and it's a growing problem.

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I can agree with that. As long as a death makes sense then I am fine with it. Honestly they could all just do it without any of that, just bench the scions by having us travel the rest of the world alone. But let us be on our own again. I know the pushed the message that no hero should do this alone (which is funny after so many hours of story where they just send us out all on our own) but its not like we need the scions for that.

I'd like the following things

Visit Meracydia, Thavnair and more of Ivalice/Nagxia preferably without the major scions. Yugiri, Cirina plz. Perhaps we can visit Paglth'an too
A duty where we fight alongside or as Gaius
Zenos to be offed in an undignified manner permanently so a better villain can appear
A short couple of MSQ of quests where the WOL actually gets to take some time off and the other minor scions on the source get some screentime (plus tataru) and we see how they function without us
Market board tweaks to prevent botting and rampant undercutting.
Dragon Wings mount
Armour glams for casters, capes that don't clip my tail and knee length skirts
Job designs to become more diverse, skill ceilings and floors raised, healers back to being combat medics etc
Character creator and lore update. Draconic Au Ra, more expressive Viera ears, non effeminate Elezen...
Some sort of bonding/friends thing we can do with our retainers. Its a thankless job assisting the WOL at all hours, selling things, gathering/murdering/stealing items, hoarding their stuff, forced to act how they demand and wear their uh unique glams...
Solo endgame duties, to test one's skill and get some glam.
My dark arts Aura back :/

Increase glamour dresser to 600 slots minimum, then move to 1000. Relieve my retainers of the burden. Also, allow for five extra retainers via cash shop. Also, make Yotsuyu's outfit, prop, hair, and smoke emote a package in the cash shop. Long overdue.

New Healer.
Buff Ast so it's heals arnt awful
Give Sch control of Faire
Bring back Areo3
Improved PvP

Nothing else matters, but very curious to see what else they do.

...ok fine....
AlsoFemaleHrothgaryoucowards

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Originally Posted by Quintessa

On your first point, I felt it was more about Boobfilia and her band of misfitly sidekicks, followed by a guy who tried to join the Backstreet Boys. The Warrior of Silence was kind of just there being an errand boy when all the full time postal workers were on vacation. Then came Alphinaud and his God complex trying to run things, while pushing the Warrior of Please Spare Me This Misery And Kill Me Now further into the background. When he comes into his own as a man, I thought you know, the Warrior of Background was finally gonna get some screen time, but here comes a wanna-be and very poor example of Michelle Rodriguez, Alisaie.

I get to the esteemed Shadowbringers expansion and supposedly it is all about the Warrior of We're Not Sure Which Time of Day Anymore, and riiight from the very beginning I get turned into the Warrior of Casper and then what else I'd get is the Scions all being mouth pieces and stealing more spotlight, with the failed Backstreet Boy applicant still mourning over Jessica Rabbitfilia. By this time I was getting a little annoyed.

I'm totally on board with getting rid of the Scions.

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i'm not for kill of the Scions per say but as people have have them sit out a bit after i'm the WoL savor of this and that salyer of gods yeah yeah i'm good going it alone for a bit k thanks. but what i want is a few quest or even a few cuts scean where the warrior of light just goes F it and lets there darkside out (anyone who's the DK job quests will get it)

this is the most nitpicky thing i an think of but if the new expansion has any new jobs, give us more freaking glamour options.

Stormbood had the pirmals glams , Levi, ramuh, irfit, titan, shiva, and garuda, along side all 3 tiers of alexander riads, bahamut weapons and HW primals with Bismark, Ravana, thordan, warring triad. aswell as old doman gear, eikon gear and shire before you officially started stormblood

Shadowbringers had 1 tier of omega raids, no primal weapons like at all (before Shinryu) scaevan weapons and kai weapons before you hit shadowbringers. no lost alag weapons, no ala migan weapons, no 4 lord weapons, no delta or sigma weapons.

Next expansion better not chiken out and leav us with barley an options, considering GNB has like 2 good weapons and most are just swords

More beards for all.
Options / toggle for body hair.
Overall expanded character creation.
Body tattoos that aren't part of gear.

For the writing to never tongue in cheek say that the Warrior of Light has seven adventurers waiting off screen to help fight primals like it kept doing in Stormblood ever again. It really strains my suspension of disbelief when the story presents the Warrior of Light as being either alone or only having the Scions/Named NPCs with them 99% of the time in Cutscenes, Solo duties, and in terms of the overall plot only for it to occasionally say "Also there's these seven adventurers off screen who help with the primals teehee, don't question why they don't help with anything else". It doesn't help that there's moments where it absolutely would not make sense for the Warrior of Light to have help to fight a primal, like when they get blindsided by the summoning of a Primal as during the first fight with Ifrit or when Tsukuyomi is summoned which makes all of Stormblood's insistence that OH NO THE WARRIOR OF LIGHT COULDN'T POSSIBLY FIGHT A PRIMAL ALONE fall even more flat.

It actually doesn't strain my suspension of disbelief at all to assume that the other members in a DF duty are either gameplay abstractions because it's an MMO so of course the content is going to be multiplayer, or stand-ins for the NPCs who'd canonically be there. Shadowbringers doesn't ever call attention to it because it outside of when back up is literally summoned through magical means, which makes sense in the context of what's happening rather than it just being bad flavor text that takes you out of the moment and it's much better for it.

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Originally Posted by Jirah

this is the most nitpicky thing i an think of but if the new expansion has any new jobs, give us more freaking glamour options.

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I have to agree,but I also have to point out that this was a trend since HW, where there were no pre-50 30 stuff for AST, DRK or MCH (notthat the options were good betwen 2 and 30 anyway), and agin with SB where there are no Allagan weapons for SAM or RDM and no animal PVP sets for the same jobs.

Basically the devs seem to be cutting corners regarding weapon design and cut out all gear before the starting level with 1 exception, the Deep Dungeon weapons, and even then they cut out weapons from optional content until the level their debuit xpac really starts.To the point I'm a little surprised that Alphascape actually did have weapons for GNB and DNC