White list for tells

Isn't it about time we have a button that we can check to enable white list only for tells. Have it as a default to protect people from themselves being phished. Email accounts have spam functions. Why cant we have one in game. If you dont like it, uncheck the white list.

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Originally Posted by Gugnir

Isn't it about time we have a button that we can check to enable white list only for tells. Have it as a default to protect people from themselves being phished. Email accounts have spam functions. Why cant we have one in game. If you dont like it, uncheck the white list.

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Exactly. If an old-ass game like Runescape can make it so only those on your friends list can send you tells, surely FF14 can do the same. Unless *insert something something spaghetti code excuse here*

I wouldn't care if it were an option. I having it as a default would be the wrong way to do it. It would make it more difficult for new players to ask questions of other players without spamming zone chat endlessly. They may not even realize they were blocked from getting tells unless someone was on their friends list.

You'd also end up getting constant friends requests from other players just so they could hold a brief conversation with you.

If the true goal was to protect dumb players from phishing scams, it wouldn't work. The scammers would simply move into zone chat, spamming it with an army of disposable characters on already compromised accounts like RMT bots do.

Seems a bit counter-intuitive for an MMO that has very limited social interaction as it is.

No thanks. How would I chat with the people then? Ask questions, compliment their glamour and so on

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Originally Posted by Jin-

No thanks. How would I chat with the people then? Ask questions, compliment their glamour and so on

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In /say chat.

My ideal solution would be something like a semi-busy status - to all those who argue that they're worried about not being able to just sent random tells anymore: There already is a way to block tells and thats /busy. I'd like to see something similar with the exception that friends could still sent tells - if it works like busy, aka being something someone needs to turn on everytime they'd rather not get tells from strangers, I doubt it will have as much of a negative impact as you guys seem to fear... besides: It would be turned on by people who have no desire to chat with you, a stranger, in the first place.
The argument "But I want to talk to them, so they shouldnt be allowed to block me out" almost sounds like its approaching the line of harrassment... Maybe they dont want to answer your questions (and they have no obligations to do so - we can argue about people displaying the mentor-crown being an expection, but people without one really dont need to answer any question a stranger might have for them) or they dont care to hear that you like their glamour. Maybe they dont want to be social - they dont have to be, special not for someone elses sake.

There have been times when I'd been completly fine with friends sending me tells, but not anyone else - anyone remember the days when we got constant RMT-tells?

This is how you ask questions.

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Originally Posted by Tint

In /say chat.

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In a game with no speech bubbles? Yeah no thanks

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Originally Posted by Jin-

In a game with no speech bubbles? Yeah no thanks

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I've never understood this complaint.
You can look at your chat.
A tell is functionally the same as say.

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Originally Posted by Tint

In /say chat.

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Disgusting.

I have /say disabled to filter out RMT spam and the legitimately stupid crap people spout for attention. I never engage people in /say, nor would I want someone to converse with me in it.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I've never understood this complaint.
You can look at your chat.
A tell is functionally the same as say.

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/say has a fairly limited range. You might want to compliment or ask a question about a glamour you saw but the other player has already moved away. You'd have to interrupt whatever else you were doing and start following them around to stay in range.

/tell doesn't have a range. The only limitation is the player can't be in an instance.

14's communication methods are already crap compared to the rest of the industry, we really dont need it to be more crap as a default.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I've never understood this complaint.
You can look at your chat.
A tell is functionally the same as say.

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Lots of spam in the chat. All of it is the same color. If someone is next to me and using /s it's their problem if I don't see or notice it.
/tell gives me drum sounds /s6. and I know someone wants to talk to me.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

/say has a fairly limited range. You might want to compliment or ask a question about a glamour you saw but the other player has already moved away. You'd have to interrupt whatever else you were doing and start following them around to stay in range.

/tell doesn't have a range. The only limitation is the player can't be in an instance.

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There is a second limitation: the person cant be /busy, since that blocks out all tells aswell. As I mentioned: We already have a way for people to prevent getting tells if they dont want to - but I dont think its so unreasonable to assume that people might be okay with getting tells from friends, but not random strangers - at least at times. Having the option to type /busy-unless-you-are-my-friend and having it work just like the current /busy (aka: not having it on by default but rather having to type it each time you want to) would certainly be welcome - and would do more good than harm.
I'll repeat myself, but if someone makes use of this status (or even something similar - even something we already have ingame like /busy), it means that they're not intrested in chatting with a stranger, in answering your question or in hearing that you like their glamour - and thats okay, thats their good right. I dont understand why people seem to believe that their ability to sent possibly unwanted /tells is more important than someones ability to block those out... and why they'd even want to engage with someone who'd rather not engage with them.

Using /say to circumvent that is a terrible suggestion aswell - seriously, if someone doesnt want to recive /tells, let them be.

And I assume that you know that and are just tryint to justify sending /tells to people who might not want them, but: if you see someone wearing a glamour and you'd like to know what it is, just open their character screen and hover over the items. It will tell you whats been glamoured onto those (if a glamour was applied). Works even on the lodestone. No need to follow anyone around.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

There is a second limitation: the person cant be /busy, since that blocks out all tells aswell. As I mentioned: We already have a way for people to prevent getting tells if they dont want to - but I dont think its so unreasonable to assume that people might be okay with getting tells from friends, but not random strangers - at least at times. Having the option to type /busy-unless-you-are-my-friend and having it work just like the current /busy (aka: not having it on by default but rather having to type it each time you want to) would certainly be welcome - and would do more good than harm.
I'll repeat myself, but if someone makes use of this status (or even something similar - even something we already have ingame like /busy), it means that they're not intrested in chatting with a stranger, in answering your question or in hearing that you like their glamour - and thats okay, thats their good right. I dont understand why people seem to believe that their ability to sent possibly unwanted /tells is more important than someones ability to block those out... and why they'd even want to engage with someone who'd rather not engage with them.

Using /say to circumvent that is a terrible suggestion aswell - seriously, if someone doesnt want to recive /tells, let them be.

And I assume that you know that and are just tryint to justify sending /tells to people who might not want them, but: if you see someone wearing a glamour and you'd like to know what it is, just open their character screen and hover over the items. It will tell you whats been glamoured onto those (if a glamour was applied). Works even on the lodestone. No need to follow anyone around.

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And I'll go back to what I said in my first post. I'm fine if SE were to add an option that would allow players to block tells from other players not on a friends list.

I do not believe it should be the default setting because it adds a layer of difficulty to communicating with others in a massively multiplayer online game, a genre which has as one of its key attractions social interaction between people who share a common interest - that of the game itself. If someone wants to cut themselves off from others, that's their choice but it shouldn't be something the game forces on a new player from the moment they first start playing.

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Originally Posted by Jin-

No thanks. How would I chat with the people then? Ask questions, compliment their glamour and so on

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They're asking for an optional button for this, not a complete blanked ban on non-friend tells. I don't see why having an option for people who want it is such a bad thing when it won't affect you at all if you don't chose to use it. Only iffy thing is having it check by default.

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Originally Posted by Enla

They're asking for an optional button for this, not a complete blanked ban on non-friend tells. I don't see why having an option for people who want it is such a bad thing when it won't affect you at all if you don't chose to use it. Only iffy thing is having it check by default.

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Options are always good but default on, not off. It's already annoying enough to send messages on this game.

Having some common sense is best way to avoid those problematic tells, not blocking it off from the majority since let's be real most don't check options to enable or disable settings.

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Originally Posted by Jin-

Options are always good but default on, not off. It's already annoying enough to send messages on this game

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That I will definitely agree with. It should absolutely be an opt-in.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

/say has a fairly limited range. You might want to compliment or ask a question about a glamour you saw but the other player has already moved away. You'd have to interrupt whatever else you were doing and start following them around to stay in range.

/tell doesn't have a range. The only limitation is the player can't be in an instance.

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...yes?
The context here was chat bubbles.