Unlocked versions of assessories pls?

Ever since SB, all accessories are locked to the gear type (aiming Accs go to Ranged DPS, Tank Accs for tanks etc), which is all well and good for keeping their stats inline, but really limitsthe glamour options for accessories past this point, especially when some of the cooler ones are locked to gatherers (look at you Leather mismatched earrings) and when glamour dresser space is too tight for 7 of the same model

As such I want to ask if there could be unlocked Level 1 versions of certain accessories for all classes and jobs to use in the future.

I'd very much like to see that!

I understand why accessories are job-locked by now, but it would be really nice for glamour-purposes not having to hold on to 7 identical looking necklaces to be able to glamour them to any job you want...

More glamour jewellery based on the higher-level designs would be fantastic.

I've never understood why there's so little available at Lv1. Using the aetheryte earring means I can't even pick between gold and silver earrings, all the way to Lv70, because the silver earrings are too high-level to glamour onto it.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Ever since SB, all accessories are locked to the gear type (aiming Accs go to Ranged DPS, Tank Accs for tanks etc), which is all well and good for keeping their stats inline, but really limitsthe glamour options for accessories past this point, especially when some of the cooler ones are locked to gatherers (look at you Leather mismatched earrings) and when glamour dresser space is too tight for 7 of the same model

As such I want to ask if there could be unlocked Level 1 versions of certain accessories for all classes and jobs to use in the future.

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I was just thinking about this recently. I'd rather it be any accessory over just certain ones though.

Let's just unlock accessories in general and see how fast tanks cannibalize themselves over STR vs VIT again.

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Originally Posted by Videra

Let's just unlock accessories in general and see how fast tanks cannibalize themselves over STR vs VIT again.

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Oh gawd, please no. Keep that trash fire where it belongs and keep it buried. Never again. NEVER!

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Originally Posted by Videra

Let's just unlock accessories in general and see how fast tanks cannibalize themselves over STR vs VIT again.

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All tank and melee dps accessories have been adjusted to have equal STR and VIT since the stat rework since Shadowbringers. This is consistent from as early as Lv28 Sunstone vs Sphene all the way up to Lv80. There is no gain to be had for Lv60 and below accessories from melee as a tank other than better substats.

Pretty much every single accessory I would use a s a glamour are already unlocked.

I remember suggesting adding lvl1 glamour replicas for accessories in one of the threads with questions for live letters, but it wasn't picked. I'm still up for this though.

There is no even really any harm in this from developing time side - models are already there, created and adjusted for every race, the only thing needed is adding one more item but 1st level.

Obviously more is always better, but at least I hope they continue the pattern with past expacs. That is to say, often gear skins will be reused on additional jobs (like the Anemos cowboy glamours were originally gatherer gear).

I would prefer also they didn’t waste time making an entire set available as glamours (like each and every one of those mad max sky pirate set...) and just go with 1 that we can dye (like the “swim wear” sets from Shisui of the Violet Tides eventually got recycled as 1 bathing suit).

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Originally Posted by kaynide

I would prefer also they didn’t waste time making an entire set available as glamours (like each and every one of those mad max sky pirate set...) and just go with 1 that we can dye (like the “swim wear” sets from Shisui of the Violet Tides eventually got recycled as 1 bathing suit).

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I don't think it "wastes" any more time making multiple designs available vs a single design, when the models are already there. All of them are subtly different - highlight colours and undyeable metals vary from one to the next, which is important when trying to coordinate mix-and-match glamours. Having a choice of the same gloves with gold or silver edging is fantastic, and I hope we see more of it.

And yes, I would rather see all the Shisui sets available than "recycled into one" with no opportunity for variation, because that one Faire set is missing some interesting features from the others - halter-neck straps, designs that include sleeves, vastly different footwear; also the flower hairpins which were never included in the Faire version in any form, but some have a single flower and some have two. Dyeable versions of both would be lovely.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

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For as often as the devs say space/resources are limited, I would rather said limited spaces not have 20ish different parts of what is essentially 1 single outfit When I could have 5 completely different outfits. If I wanted the specific bits, I can get the original dungeon/crafted bits.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

For as often as the devs say space/resources are limited, I would rather said limited spaces not have 20ish different parts of what is essentially 1 single outfit When I could have 5 completely different outfits. If I wanted the specific bits, I can get the original dungeon/crafted bits.

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But where's the work? The model is already there. Copy, paste, change the level and class restrictions.

Certainly I'd like to see them do it for more interesting sets, but the variations are good too. I've built a few outfits now that needed one specific colour from a Sky Rat set that would have been locked off otherwise.

In any case this is irrelevant to accessories. The whole issue with those is that all five role versions have identical models, so if you like that design and want to use it on multiple classes, you then have to keep each version.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Obviously more is always better, but at least I hope they continue the pattern with past expacs. That is to say, often gear skins will be reused on additional jobs (like the Anemos cowboy glamours were originally gatherer gear).

I would prefer also they didn’t waste time making an entire set available as glamours (like each and every one of those mad max sky pirate set...) and just go with 1 that we can dye (like the “swim wear” sets from Shisui of the Violet Tides eventually got recycled as 1 bathing suit).

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We are talking about accessories here though, that look exactly the same for all jobs in DOW+DOM/DOH/DOL cestions. They don't need to redesign them, they need only to add one more 1st level item of same design purely for glamour purposes, because right now if you want to use some specific accessory on every job, you need to keep 5 copies of 100% same looking item, and in case you want to wear an entire set of accessories it's 20 items instead of 4 that you keep either in inventory or in glamour dresser, that are already highly limited in available space as it is. I suppose adding it can take some demand in terms of space on servers they have, but in terms of developing time it's almost nothing, because all assets are already in the game.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

But where's the work? The model is already there. Copy, paste, change the level and class restrictions...

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It's not so much about work as general bloat. The game is wonky, the devs always complain about resources this, or limitations that. Without knowing the details on their end, I'd rather not waste whatever limits we have on 101 variations of 1 item. I mean, we don't even have 2 or more dye channels on a single item because resource limitations....I also don't want 20 almost identical things with gold bits or silver bits taking up my entire glamour storage...

What I WOULD go for rather, is 1 item with various states one could choose from (simple example being hood up or down, with tassels or without, with pauldrons or without etc). Basically like how they do helmets w/ visor up or down.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

We are talking about accessories here though...

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On that, I agree. There should be a generic dye-able of each of the common accessory skins (like the green/red "wood/coral/bone" sets).