I wish we could switch companies!!

:( I really want to switch from Uldah to grid and rank up in all the cities!!! The chocobo armor is just too cute in grid!!

It would be nice, a few of my friends joined the adders then shortly after realized that I was already in Maelstrom. It would have been nice to run with them for GC stuff.

Along this same bent it'd be nice to be able to become a "Visiting National" in other cities, to go through thier story line, for those of use that are interested in story lines. I hate starting new accts/chars for things, which is why I love FFXI/FFXIV, I can experience all the jobs/classes and in XI all the story content, with a single char, no restarts ^^

Leave Ul'Dah!? But we have Unicorn-chocobo's! Unicobo's? Chocorn's? XD

Hypothetically, if SE were to allow GC switching, I would bet all my gil that it would go down like this.

- You join GC #1 at lowest rank.
- You work your way up through the ranks.
- You switch to GC #2, entering at lowest rank and losing any seals you had from GC #1.
- You work your way up again through the ranks.
- You switch back to GC #1, losing your seals from GC #2, entering not at the rank you left, but once again at the lowest rank.

The benefit would be access to collecting GC-specific gear and barding, but the cost would be your progress within the Company. As ranks are further increased, the cost becomes great.

+1! Because I would like to switch. =/ Really upset, Yoshi said it wouldn't matter, and yet it does.

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+1! Because I would like to switch. =/ Really upset, Yoshi said it wouldn't matter, and yet it does.

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Yeah, and it matters a lot.

I hate being lied to..

main issue is the gear. Im from uldah, signed up for lamosa for thm and Blm weapon and gear. My friend is a Cnj and will be whm and grandia has that stuff, we partner so need to help each other out the most. be niece that gear was available un iversal for all jobs.

Yeah I joined Maelstrom, not realizing my sister joined Twin Adders. To make it worse, I started in Gridania. I have Path of the Twelve quests in Ul'dah, and now I have Maelstrom quests/dealings in Lo Noscea! I'm spread way too thin, and it costs me a ton of gil, Anima or time to get from one to the other to: play with my sister, quest in Ul'dah, or get seals in Limsa. Additionally, I think it would be great to collect gear and see the story from one, then move on to another, get its gear/story and then the third. In XI people could switch their nation, so why not their Grand Company in XIV?

They attempted to add one thing, and only one thing, into this game that you could not change.
Not even a major game-breaking thing.
Just one thing.

They gave lots of information on each grand company.
They gave lots of warning that you can only join one and never change.

It is the one and only one decision in the entire world one can make that they can not go back on.

I find it a bit depressing that one is too many >.>

For future people:
1) IF you have friends, find out which GC they are in before you join yours.

I guess that's it really ^.^:

As for equipment:
All nations have something good. Malestorm has a lovely pair of Officer's Boots I want (Magic Accuracy!), Gridinia has a lovely pair of Gloves I want (Magic Potency!). Fortunately Ul'dah has a Cudgel I want (+43 Magic Accuracy!).

There is something good everywhere, however due to balancing restrictions you can't have everything good everywhere. If that were the case I doubt very much I would wear anything but GC equipment ^.^;

I have this nagging feeling that only folks who join a gc before the cataclysm will ever be able to join a GC, and free companies will be the new thing everyone can access in the aftermath.

See, theres this thing called "research"
I understood fully and completely that once I chose my Grand Company,I would not be able to look back. this left me at the deciding quest for about 2 days while I weighed my options.
I looked at the gear each had available, I looked at each bird's Barding, and I even checked within my LS and household to see which Grand Companies they were in.
In the End, Kan-E-Senna's light show and the Crested Barding from Gridania won me over, however that could have easily been changed had my household members chosen something like the Maelstrom. I would have gone with that, instead.

I agree with Asi. They made sure that, unless you rushed through everything without reading, you had all the information you would need, PLUS ample time to weigh out your decision. I mean, you joined a Grand Company, which means you spent a good deal of time running around.. during this time, you didn't bother to ask your friends "So which GC are you in? I think I like these guys" OR to look up on Google your companies barding?

Gonna sound mean here, but it sounds like you made a hasty decision and now regret it. use this experience as alearning tool to not make the same mistake again.

... Besides, once Dalamund falls, I don't think your GC will matter.

EDIT:
My apologies, I was under the impression that the Barding and the like had been around for as long as the companies themselves. My LS member just told me the Barding is still fairly new.
Sorry for sounding like a douche.

If I was a Grid. MNK I would have this: http://mooglebox.com/entries/gridani...s-overcoat.php


But instead I'm with LL, and I get this: http://mooglebox.com/entries/lominsa...s-overcoat.php

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All the gear should either be the same, or be purchasable from nations outside your own for an increased cost.

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If I was a Grid. MNK I would have this: http://mooglebox.com/entries/gridani...s-overcoat.php


But instead I'm with LL, and I get this: http://mooglebox.com/entries/lominsa...s-overcoat.php

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All the gear should either be the same, or be purchasable from nations outside your own for an increased cost.

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Now that doesn't make any sense.
you don't wear a Sgt's army uniform because you paid a lot of money for it, you wear it because you've earned it, and it shows your status in the army.
Wearing a LL Uniform if your a high rank of the Adders would be just wrong.

Now if you were to abandon your sworn fealty to the Adders, and swear fealty tot he Maelstrom, you'd have to work your way fromthe bottom, as was suggested earlier, but makes more sense then just'paying extra' fora company issued uniform, when you arent even in the company.

I have good news for those of you who are unhappy with your Grand Company choice! You will be able to switch your Grand Company in version 2.0, but of course there may be some downsides (for example, having your rank reset, etc.). Good news for those of you really wanting to make a change!

Good news, everyone!
I have invented a device that lets you betray your company!


More seriously: I like that we will be able to change, and I also fully agree with being punished for it. Rank reset and/or seal reset sounds like a fair idea.

Any Twin Adder defectors will be dealt with swiftly and severely. :mad:

*grabs butterfly wand*

One of uuuuss..... One of uuuuuuuus!

That's sounds perfectly fine, but a few questions on that.

* Can you change your Grand Company at will or is it a one-time deal?

* Say you leave your Grand Company for another. Unfortunately that new GC doesn't suit your tastes so you return to the original one you had. Will you lose all progress (seals, rank, quests, etc.) even if you rejoin?

* Are all items you purchased from that Grand Company yours to keep even after leaving or must these be returned before you can leave?

I would think they're not entirely sure about the details yet.

I do however think it very unlikely that they would confiscate your gear, but a rank/seal reset would be very likely.

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I would think they're not entirely sure about the details yet.

I do however think it very unlikely that they would confiscate your gear, but a rank/seal reset would be very likely.

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I definitely believe going to a new Grand Company wouldn't allow you to keep your current rank nor would they convert say Flame Seals into Serpent Seals. However what I'm curious over is if you leave your company will you still retain your seals and rank should you join that one again? Take for example leaving one nation for another in FFXI, you pay a fee and you could go from a Windurstian to a San d'Orian. You'd have to start from the beginning in the storyline again but it retained your progress and points between each nation. So if you later signed up as a Windurstian again you could pick up where you left off.

That's what I'm asking. If I chose to leave the Twin Adder to join the Immortal Flames, then later signed up again for the Twin Adder would I be a Serpent Private Third Class again or would my title as Serpent Sergeant Second still remain. Personally I actually don't plan to swap but I was using that as an example. I do however plan to join probably the Maelstrom on my alt since I accidentally chose the wrong company with that one. But if I don't like that company after all I may choose to go back and it'd be nice if I could keep my rank and seals for that one.

Isn't a huge loss if you can't but some Grand Companies appear to have slightly varying storylines even if they all reach the same conclusion over time.

so what happens to all the company gear we have now? does this mean defectors can dawn their old officer gear and go undercover!?!? gasp

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so what happens to all the company gear we have now? does this mean defectors can dawn their old officer gear and go undercover!?!? gasp

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I reckon that there will be a system whereby players can exchange their old Grand Company gear for their new GC gear (perhaps with some sort of penalty of course... say 10% to 25% more than the original cost of seals?)

And thank you for the information, Rukkirii... I have a couple friends who wish they could've joined the Maelstrom so this will be great news for them.

Twin adder will rule all in the end, you shall see =)

The biggest question is will sanction buff work cross GC, and will wearing one item from each GC count as a total of 3 towards extra stat buff and so on?

If not, then best to stick with one GC.
If so, it'll be one awesome time sink farming seals for all your favorite GC gear for the best possible combo.

I'm betting it will be a system almost identical to FFXI. You can renounce your allegiance to your current Grand Company and join a different one. Doing so would make you lose all your seals (Conquest points and outpost warps in FFXI) but you get to keep any items that you purchased. If you ever decide to return to a Grand Company you had been a part of in the past, you would return to your current rank and progress with missions but with 0 seals.

Reliving the storyline would be a pathetic decision from a designers point of view. How would doing the same exact story again make any sense?

Rant and speculation starting:
Hell, I'm not even sure if you'd be able to do the new Grand Companies storyline because its not as separated from the other storylines as it was in FFXI. All of the Grand Companies are, currently, telling the same story but from different perspectives. In FFXI, the storylines were, for the most part, individual entities that weren't tied together in any way. Unless the 2.0 storylines are telling their own individual stories and not a scenario like Dalamund, switching could simply make you the same rank with 0 seals.

Anyone who leaves the Maelstrom, feel free to stay gone. It's sad that the devs are caving to a bunch of whiners about, "ooooh, my stats."

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Anyone who leaves the Maelstrom, feel free to stay gone. It's sad that the devs are caving to a bunch of whiners about, "ooooh, my stats."

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As long as yOu lose ranks, seals and gear, suit yourselves.

I wonder if they will make it so that:
You can not equip that item as you are no longer part of that Grand Company.


Making it so you have to throw away all your GC specific gear. Otherwise I have some concern about balance issues with mixing gear from multiple GCs together.

I'm also a bit sad they allow this... maybe if its a one time thing for only 2.0 (due to game re-launch and new people comming in, etc).

If they worry about mixing company gear, they could make the set bonuses stronger and/or require more pieces, so that it would (for the most part) be gimp to mix them.

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I have good news for those of you who are unhappy with your Grand Company choice! You will be able to switch your Grand Company in version 2.0, but of course there may be some downsides (for example, having your rank reset, etc.). Good news for those of you really wanting to make a change!

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Will all the same quests be available? I want to stay with flames but want to get those 2 quests i missed when i first joined.

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If they worry about mixing company gear, they could make the set bonuses stronger and/or require more pieces, so that it would (for the most part) be gimp to mix them.

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But then that would mean adding bonuses for having sets, for items that do not already require a set. And it could also mean you could meet the requirements and STILL mix and match. It could lead to quite an interesting balance issue. Especially if you can go back and forth.

This very cool! Then i can get multiple sets of gear.

Wonder what happens if I wear Limsa gear and Uldah gear, I get set bonus? XD :O

Here be the deal y'mangy, curs. If ye' want to be quittin' the Maelstrom, yer free t'go -- but ye'll be taking t'first step o'that journey off the stern o'the pride of the Crimson Fleet.

May the Navigator's waters decide if you've the mettle to change to your destiny.
If ye make it to shore, ye have our blessing.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/im...strom_Flag.png
'TIL THE SEA SWALLOWS ALL

Changing company with rank reset is fair enough to me but I'm staying in Maelstorm anyway (`･ω･´)ゞ.

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I have good news for those of you who are unhappy with your Grand Company choice! You will be able to switch your Grand Company in version 2.0, but of course there may be some downsides (for example, having your rank reset, etc.). Good news for those of you really wanting to make a change!

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Yay! I'm glad to hear this!

To be honest, I'm ok with having my rank reset when I switch Grand Companies.

Question, does that mean that our rank in the original Grand Company will be lost forever or would it be stored should be decide to go back to it?

The reason I would switch the grand companies is for the storyline, especially once things tweaked in 2.0.

Sigh...another one of those SE submitting to the whiner community base. SE you are pissing off the core group of players who find these types of changes detrimental to an MMO.

This world is our "fantasy" life. In it we make choices that affect our lives. If we approach the MMO world with getting everything and whatever we want the immersion of being in this fantasy world vanishes.

If you do insist to allow swap to another GC in my opinion it is equivalent to dropping rank from the military. Defecting means you are branded a traitor. You lose all your rank, points, items, gears etc. There should be no I want to switch back after moving to another...if you even allow swapping back and forth...each swap should entirely wipe out any gains from previous GC.

Really though when 2.0 hits I'd like to see that while there are remnants of the GC they have all become dissolved through the free companies.

These are the contents that are part of the current calm before the storm...life has tough choices...make them and live with them. It's not like you haven't asked and asked and asked to confirm your enlistment in the GC of your choice. It's not like you said you can only be part of this company. You put the confirmations in place. You warned that these choices are permanent. You made the player base make decisions. THEY NEED TO STICK TO THOSE DECISIONS!!!

WE as players aren't entitled to EVERYTHING. I don't want everything...if you take away the reasons to choose and the consequences of choosing you take away the life of the game...it becomes a game merely about I want this gear and that gear rather then what SE is about.

An immersion into a world a story that unfolds a realm. If you gonna just give everyone everything you might as well make cash shops for items so those that GOTTA HAVE THEM all can just buy them.

Then please exclude me from the game entirely cause the more you submit to these whiners the more you are losing your loyal fan base.

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I have good news for those of you who are unhappy with your Grand Company choice! You will be able to switch your Grand Company in version 2.0, but of course there may be some downsides (for example, having your rank reset, etc.). Good news for those of you really wanting to make a change!

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HOPEFULLY if you switch grand companies 1 of the restrictions will be that players CAN NOT use or wear other grand company uniforms or gear/weapons. This would be great to promote loyalty to their current grand company.

Changing grand companies is all well and good, however the main reason everyone wants to do so I would imagine is that a player prefers the gear of another GC over their own. I would propose a more creative solution where in you can only have say one officers coat (example) however by doing some black market business you could trade in your existing coat and some seals or gil to the black market NPC for a GC replica coat with your GCs design but another’s stats. It just seems to me that there could be more interesting solutions than punishing the player base for picking a Grand Company blindly when they first came out.

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Nice to see all the patriotism, probably what happened was players wanted to be able to change allegiance like you can in XI. The whole 6 years and some change I was strictly Bastok except for 1 week a friend asked me to switch to Sandy and do missions with her and then 2 days later she hopped servers so I switched back to Bastok first chance I got. Moose I'm starting to think that's why people get the coin that's worth 25,000 seals, so they have the option to either use it with their current grand company or save it for a head start in their new grand company.

wonder if you will lose all your equip too or maybe give you the equivalent?

well now you guys better pick the GC you want and not pick something because its what the cool kids are doing.