A tank's biggest enemy.... LAG!

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Anyone else sees Coincounter going for Animal instinct but then isntead of turning towards the group and reset hate he just does 100 tonze swing without even
readying it? like no animation nothing, just swings in ur face...

I was just wondering if anyone else has that sometimes.
And if yes. is it lag or wtf is it?

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

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Anyone else sees Coincounter going for Animal instinct but then isntead of turning towards the group and reset hate he just does 100 tonze swing without even
readying it? like no animation nothing, just swings in ur face...

I was just wondering if anyone else has that sometimes.
And if yes. is it lag or wtf is it?

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Are you sure it was swing and not swipe? Swing's charge up is sooo long that not even lag can make it hit you. Swipe's is relatively fast though and he does seem to like WSing right after Animal Instinct. Just have your healer(s) keep you topped off and it doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

Are you sure it was swing and not swipe? Swing's charge up is sooo long that not even lag can make it hit you. Swipe's is relatively fast though and he does seem to like WSing right after Animal Instinct. Just have your healer(s) keep you topped off and it doesn't matter.

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I have less than a second to react to the swing. so prolly my lag is insane compared to yours.
I have to start running exactly as it pops in the log.
Also Swing will kill u even if u at full hp... It's the swipe that will leave you with some hp.
Oh and what i am talking about is no charge animation at all after animal instinct.
Just straight swing.

Swings are fine for me. When I see him readxying it, I got enough time to run, but Swipes...no chance.

I try to evade them everytime, but no matter how fast I start to run through him once he starts readying it, I get hit(and pushed away to his back...so I was standing behind him...)

I'm sitting in germany btw. Another person I know who sometimes tank him(Indonesia) has no problem at all evading his swipes...

I got HP gear on my WAR for Coincounter(4900HP), so I can just take the Swipes w/o problem...but it still annoys me that no matter how fast I start running, I can't evade it...

Animal Instict followed by an instant WS though...didn't happen to me yet.

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Originally Posted by TirionCrey

Animal Instict followed by an instant WS though...didn't happen to me yet.

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Ya its really rare but whenever it occurs theres nothing u can do really...

you play windowed or full screen? try to lower your settings abit, play in windowed and disable ambient occlusion and depth of field.
Normally connection isnt the problem as long as its green, if it turns yellow or red at fight its your connection. otherwise its you pc and ver rare its the client be cause of corruption or whatever. i noticed a fast hdd helps alot since alot of data gets accessed

Not just tank. Deadly to DDs too. I always play with JP players. I notice that before I can even see Coincounter ready its "laser beam" (I dunno the skill name), JP players are already on the move to evade the beam attack. :confused: Normally I will just follow other character movement =o=" If I wait till I see coinncounter readying its beam attack, normally I get beam-ed hard :(

LOL one fight, he glitches in his fallen position when he misses everyone with swing. He was moving around like that and you couldn't see what he was doing lol I don't think it's much to do with lag but more with glitches. BUT I will have to say that that was a fun boss fight. He's harder than the morbol. If any job isn't paying attention, they dead.

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Anyone else sees Coincounter going for Animal instinct but then isntead of turning towards the group and reset hate he just does 100 tonze swing without even
readying it? like no animation nothing, just swings in ur face...

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At low HP he seems to replace Animal Instinct > Eye of the Beholder with Animal Instinct > 100-ton swing, at least that's how it's been every time I've fought it since I noticed the switchup.

What lag have to do if is instant ws?

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

BUT I will have to say that that was a fun boss fight. He's harder than the morbol. If any job isn't paying attention, they dead.

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Respectfully disagree. We killed him the first time we saw him without really knowing what we were doing. I think we just got lucky and he only used swing when I (tanking him against a wall lol) had Stoneskin up or something, but regardless it was a disappointment. The only thing challenging about Coincounter is the RNG on his ability usage. If he wants to spam Animal Instinct a dozen times in a fight, he can be a bit of a pain in the ass, especially if slug Amnesia hits the tank around the same time. But if he only uses it a couple times and spams Swing a lot like he usually does he's joke easy for anyone to kill.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

What lag have to do if is instant ws?

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Ya i'm not sure what it is in this specific situation about him doing WS instantly after animal instinct but i know that
When tanking a boss that has a WS that needs to be read in the log and reacted to immidiatelly... Lag is a big issue.
Imagine being a Tank in Ifrit with insane lag trying to avoid a spam of eruptions that u dont see popping under you while trying to maintain hate on you keeping it away from 4 BLMs nuking hard...

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Originally Posted by Estellios

At low HP he seems to replace Animal Instinct > Eye of the Beholder with Animal Instinct > 100-ton swing, at least that's how it's been every time I've fought it since I noticed the switchup.

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Ya thats exactly it. but he sometimes does not charge it at all. just swings instantly so i cant run away from it since i don't see it comming >.<

The lag has to be on your end and not the game, or otherwise be immensely rare. If this is happening often to you it's gotta be the former. Been running AV a ton the past few weeks and never had an instant Swing.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

The lag has to be on your end and not the game, or otherwise be immensely rare. If this is happening often to you it's gotta be the former. Been running AV a ton the past few weeks and never had an instant Swing.

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lol! no i mentioned already it is really rare maybe 2~4 times in days... but still.

Also i know the lag is on my end :)