Do you think this is ever going to happen? In a way it sounds cool, but even getting round rejoining without a calamity, the other soul shards would basically need to sacrifice themselves which seems like something we wouldn't want. If not I'm curious if we will meet any more of them.
(5.0 Spoilers) 14/14?
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03-07-2020, 11:18 PMCereza(5.0 Spoilers) 14/14?
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03-08-2020, 12:04 AMLurina
I think it's kinda funny how the community tends to overall appreciate that Emet's attitude of soul power level-essentialism is bad and that the rejoining is still an evil act even though the people on the different shards are technically fragments of the same being... But when it comes to the WoL specifically, so many people go all "OH YEAH! CAN'T WAIT TO EAT THOSE GUYS SOULS AND REGAIN MY RIGHTFUL TRUE POWER"
But no, I doubt it'll happen unless there ends up being a deus ex machina to restore souls without all the murder. -
03-08-2020, 02:56 AMGojin
That is what Zenos is for he gonna do all the work for us so he can get his ultimate final fight
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03-08-2020, 04:38 AMCerezaI agree, which is why it seems very unlikely given that the they are still their own person and we wouldn't do that. I'm mostly just curious about the lives of the others out there and if they'll come into play somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurina
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03-08-2020, 04:41 AMCerezaCan you elaborate on this a bit? I understand that his primary target at the moment is Zodiark, and that he wants the ultimate kaiju battle with us, but what do you mean do all the work for us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gojin
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03-08-2020, 06:02 AMGojinWhoever Zenos is with is gonna either teach him how to travel between shards then zenos will take them out then we can regain all the power without doing it ourselves hopefully they do it al off screen to save on time just to get it done! Or they'll probably just save that for other expansions where we'll meet them that way then something will happen to them so they'll rejoin with us on their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cereza
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03-08-2020, 10:51 AMTheMightyMollusk
I'd question whether a full 14/14 Rejoining is even possible anymore, since the Thirteenth is the Void now. But it hasn't come up in game yet.
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03-08-2020, 11:16 AMCerezaI think there are some possibilities in turning that shard around involving Eden, but it's just speculation. If Unukalhai is a shard of ours, it wouldn't even matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk
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03-08-2020, 11:18 AMCerezaHmm. I guess I could see that being a possibility, but would that mean simply killing them would force rejoin us? I guess now that I think about it I don't know how exactly it even works lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gojin
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03-08-2020, 07:29 PMGojin
After doing some reading people are saying we are at 8 and that was enough to beat emet if we got any more I'd think that would make hydaelyn upset then she'd send all her new goons at us.
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03-08-2020, 08:12 PMKageTokage
They've established that the calamities/rejoinings are spread apart because the Source needs time to recover between each lest they risk destroying the world entirely, so unless they find some convenient loophole I doubt a complete rejoining will ever take place.
Not to mention that would completely undo all our efforts in Norvrandt.
As far as our character becoming "complete" again goes, I think such a thing might be within Hydaelyn's capabilities as she has a deeper connection with the WoL and their fragments then with typical Echo users. The Ascian overlords (And possibly Zenos by extension) also seem to be rather skilled at locating specific souls as it's implied they've gone out to recruit the fragments of former Convocation members back to their cause on multiple occasions. -
03-08-2020, 08:32 PMVulcwen
We already know that rejoining souls doesn't require rejoining of worlds, since our character is proof of that. All it requires is a drifting soul offering themselves to another reflection rather reincarnating on their shard.
For the WoL to reach 14/14 that would mean repeating ardbert's offering 5 more times. We most certainly won't go out hunting for them. The "Zenos will deal with that" argument could solve that, who would go out hunt the WoLs shards, killing them and bringing their souls to them, together with a big threat to encourage the offering. I don't think it'd be a good way for the plot to go tho, especially because Zenos has already been used way too much as a plot device. -
03-09-2020, 01:25 AMCrushnight
I doubt it could happen due to not only do the inheritors of our other soul shards need to die but they also have to join with us rather than going to the lifestream with requires the other 5 beings to all somehow be allowed to shard travel or we do and I doubt there are 5 more people like the Crystal Exarch on each shard to pull us to them to prevent our own physical demise (ala Ardbert).
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03-09-2020, 10:14 PMLineageRazorI don't think this has been established as the reason. It's more likely that they wait between Rejoinings simply because it takes civilization that long to recover, that long before they're strong enough for the Ascians to manipulate them into another chaos-causing catastrophe.Quote:
Originally Posted by KageTokage
The Ascians sure didn't wait long between the Seventh Calamity (Bahamut) and the Eighth (Black Rose) - just five years! However, the Seventh was such a baby Calamity that the Ascians' primary tool (the Garlean Empire) was still strong enough to cause another Calamity. So, there was no reason to wait. -
03-10-2020, 12:58 AMTheMightyMollusk
It's plausible that they had to push the Eighth Calamity ahead because the First was so close to being swallowed by the Flood of Light. If they waited too long, they'd just have another useless Void like the Thirteenth.