This Little Ladies Day felt off to me. I feel it needs a new perspective.

Okay so, I did this years event, and it was decent but felt off to me. It wasn't bad but it felt too... female centric, as odd as that sounds.

Okay, so I'll explain, since I know Little Ladies Day is supposed to be about the "ladies". But past event's have done a nice job of making the event feel all inclusive for both males and females. Giving just as much focus on the Seneshals and their devotion to their ladies. But I felt this event glossed over that.

The event itself was fine, until near the end. I know the event was about the two girls and their friendship, and that was fine. But the event itself takes place in a children's ward with at least one prominent hyuran male child. And the event mentions the celebration is for all of the children. However, when it came time for the surprise for the children, I was a bit hurt to find out the boy(s) got nothing. I was expecting them to get either the monocle to be mini-senechal or the flowers like the girls, since it's not gender locked, but nothing, he isn't even in the cutscene past the children's initial return.

If there were no male children in the initial quest it might of felt different. The repeatable quest, however, does give the right feeling, with the elezen boy from a previous christmas event, acting as a Senechal. But it just feels to me like they dropped the ball a little. If it was adults it might of felt different. But to me it sorta felt like when you don't get a child a gift at the christmas party, just because they aren't part of your family, even though you know they will be there. Sorry a bit of person experience there.

I know I'm probably being overly critical over a silly event quest, but I just thought I'd share my thoughts and ask what others thought as well. I mean it's a game and these are fictional people, but if this was real, that would of been a rather insensitive thing to do in my opinion.

I personally still hope for the day when there is a Little Ladies Day event focusing on a lady or ladies who want help repaying their Senechal(s). My thought is a group of sisters who wanna get something for their younger brother who always dotes on them. Meanwhile, you keep the brother occupied with finding the perfect gift for his sisters since they are always so kind to him. It would show that this event may be called Little Ladies Day, but is really about both parties acting out their affection for the other.

It it helps, consider that this is not a Western-oriented event.

It is loosely based on Hinamatsuri ("Girls' Day"), which occurs at this time of year.

And yes, there was a separate "Boys' Day'" as counterpart to Hinamatsuri. The name got changed to Children's Day a bit after the Second World War.

I felt the same for a moment but the end kind of made me realize they were all participating anyway when one of the boys eagerly took on the task of helping coordinate more visitors.
They all got to see the visitors, they all got to enjoy the decorations, and the only difference was that the girls wore flowers in their hair.

We get to keep ours as a player for glam reasons but realistically these will wilt in a few days, it's not like they got a new bike while the boys got nothing. If one of the boys expressed an interest in having flowers in his hair and didn't get any then I'd have some feelings about it but otherwise this didn't feel unfair or off to me.

Weren't the only one to feel it, but I decided to look at it from an in game perspective where this is a yearly event where males give gifts(physical/hard work etc) to females so that all the girls get a present while boys wouldn't would just be par for the course of the holiday.

Though if it were like rl children, bet
my gloriously non existent rump that boy be demanding something too XD

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Weren't the only one to feel it, but I decided to look at it from an in game perspective where this is a yearly event where males give gifts(physical/hard work etc) to females so that all the girls get a present while boys wouldn't would just be par for the course of the holiday.

Though if it were like rl children, bet
my gloriously non existent rump that boy be demanding something too XD

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Yeah, I'm not losing sleep over it, was just wondering if I was alone in my thinking. Glad to see I wasn't. I know it's based on Girls' Day, but it never felt "just for girls" until this year. Makes me wonder though, why Boys' Day isn't a thing in the game?

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Yeah, I'm not losing sleep over it, was just wondering if I was alone in my thinking. Glad to see I wasn't. I know it's based on Girls' Day, but it never felt "just for girls" until this year. Makes me wonder though, why Boys' Day isn't a thing in the game?

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japan doesn't have a "boys day" anymore - it was changed to "Children's day". these days it falls too soon after Hatching-tide (Easter) and Gold Saucer's "Make it Rain" events. there's not really any room for it.

They need a child version of lalafells too, because it was hard to tell if Momoro was an adult or not. I guess not because it's children hospital, but adult would look the same anyway.

Since we have Little Ladies' Day. I suggest a new holiday: Large Lad's Day.

Little LADIES Day too female centric you say? lol

Feels off to me not having the 3 songbird dancers in it that's been in them all.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Feels off to me not having the 3 songbird dancers in it that's been in them all.

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They appear if you do repeatable quest and select the appropriate option

The songbirds were in the mini quest and they weren't in it at the start. Not the one that worked like a server race to get the doll display filled up as that one was either the first one or the second one.

Note that there are 4 other girls in the ward, who recieved "Nothing" as they weren't in the cutscene when they were handed out (Only the 2 girls the event was focused around and the Miqo'te girl were. Also, only Momoro and Lorie are wearing the flowers afterwards)

It's possible, if not highly probable, that the other children also recieved gifts even though they weren't in the cutscene.

To say nothing about the fact that with the decorations, comes also the food, which looks like a sweet treat that I'm sure all the kids enjoyed.

However, the event was focused upon the particular pair of girls, so it's natural that they would have taken the spotlight during the cutscene (With the Miqo girl being there... Because she's super adorable?)

To say nothing about how Damielliot received a gift for his efforts as a senechal (Luckily, he only had vision problems with his left eye, or receiving a monocle to replace his glasses would have been a terrible decision), or how Momoro was acting as a senechal for her friend Lorie.

I mean, if there's anything to get upset about, the Miqo'te "Hardworking Healer" didn't get anything, nor was there any implication that she did. But to do so would mean missing the point that the focus was almost entirely on Momoro and Lorie.

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Originally Posted by Kalise

To say nothing about how Damielliot received a gift for his efforts as a senechal (Luckily, he only had vision problems with his left eye, or receiving a monocle to replace his glasses would have been a terrible decision)

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Hah, I thought that too.

I'll bet that he's politely standing there hoping you'll leave soon so he can put his glasses back on...

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Originally Posted by Eloah

The event itself was fine, until near the end. I know the event was about the two girls and their friendship, and that was fine. But the event itself takes place in a children's ward with at least one prominent hyuran male child. And the event mentions the celebration is for all of the children. However, when it came time for the surprise for the children, I was a bit hurt to find out the boy(s) got nothing. I was expecting them to get either the monocle to be mini-senechal or the flowers like the girls, since it's not gender locked, but nothing, he isn't even in the cutscene past the children's initial return.

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That stood out to me as well! I suppose it's a Japanese holiday, though, so cultural differences and what-not.

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Originally Posted by Sated

I felt the same for a moment but the end kind of made me realize they were all participating anyway when one of the boys eagerly took on the task of helping coordinate more visitors.
They all got to see the visitors, they all got to enjoy the decorations, and the only difference was that the girls wore flowers in their hair.

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But there is also this to consider as well!

It's my least favourite seasonal event overall. It wouldn't bother me so much if there happened to be an equivalent seasonal event geared more towards male characters to balance it out. It's a little baffling that there isn't one given that the number of people playing male characters isn't exactly small to begin with.

It's one of the few things I miss about WoW, I suppose. The seasonal events there didn't priortise one gender over the other. Granted, unlike in FFXIV the stories surrounding them didn't really change but even FFXIV is becoming stale on that front in regards to these events as they often end up revolving around similar plot beats.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

japan doesn't have a "boys day" anymore - it was changed to "Children's day". these days it falls too soon after Hatching-tide (Easter) and Gold Saucer's "Make it Rain" events. there's not really any room for it.

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Yeah it's a part of golden week if I recall. I can semi guess why it was changed, but it feels off having a female centric holiday and no longer having a male centric one. Like if we had Fathers Day and no Mothers Day. I get it's a different culture, it just feels off. I guess as someone who grew up in a very female-centric environment, and was made to feel "ashamed" for being male, it just hit a bad nostalgia factor for me.

This was my first Little Ladies' Day, so I didn't really know what to expect going into it. It was cute, but it did feel a bit odd that the male children didn't get anything - though the spirit of the event seemed to suggest that if one had wanted some cherry blossoms, he'd have gotten some.

The weirdest part, for me, was the lalafell child looking like an adult... eek.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's my least favourite seasonal event overall. It wouldn't bother me so much if there happened to be an equivalent seasonal event geared more towards male characters to balance it out. It's a little baffling that there isn't one given that the number of people playing male characters isn't exactly small to begin with.

It's one of the few things I miss about WoW, I suppose. The seasonal events there didn't priortise one gender over the other. Granted, unlike in FFXIV the stories surrounding them didn't really change but even FFXIV is becoming stale on that front in regards to these events as they often end up revolving around similar plot beats.

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There isn't a male specific version of the event because Japan doesn't have a male specific version of the holiday (anymore).

The WoL must be one heck of a sweet-talker to convince a Namazu and a dragon to come all the way over to Ul'dah just to entertain some kids.

For that matter, I do enjoy getting to see familiar faces from our past endeavors continue to show up in the seasonal events.

What's weird is that in FFXI we did get both holidays celebrated in game.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's my least favourite seasonal event overall. It wouldn't bother me so much if there happened to be an equivalent seasonal event geared more towards male characters to balance it out. It's a little baffling that there isn't one given that the number of people playing male characters isn't exactly small to begin with.

It's one of the few things I miss about WoW, I suppose. The seasonal events there didn't priortise one gender over the other. Granted, unlike in FFXIV the stories surrounding them didn't really change but even FFXIV is becoming stale on that front in regards to these events as they often end up revolving around similar plot beats.

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Tbf last year's Little ladies day had the songbirds asking if you were waiting for your senechal (I was all hell yea I am :p) , which showed that gender didn't really matter for which role and hoped this year they might explore that more(like maybe a small brother is feeling left out but an older sister notices and decides to cheer him up and he thanks her by calling her his seneschal etc) but this event was still cute to help the children out, and I realise that the former might make people too uncomfortable.

I think the boys should have gotten presents too. Even if it's an event about girls, it felt like when some relatives visit and only some of your siblings get a present and not all children. Like sometimes when it's a child's birthday, their siblings get a really small present as well (even if it's just a single piece of candy or so), so that they don't feel excluded. Something like that would have been fair in this case. I mean I haven't seen a seasonal event for boys in FFXIV.