I feel the new trial/raids should be delayed before incorporated into Roulette

So, this may be an unpopular opinion, so I am totally understanding if people are against this. However, I really feel that these new raids and trials should NOT be added into the roulette immediately after you complete them.

While I understand from the perspective of making sure parties can be quickly filled and keep the queue moving, it can really throw a wrench into your dailies and honestly, I don't think the tomes awarded make up for the frustration.

Since completing Ruby Weapon and Eden 5-8, I consistently get 2nd Phase Ruby and E8 in my roulettes, and usually parties that have wiped multiple times, and are already salty beyond belief.

For me personally, trial roulette should not turn into an all-day affair, especially for the few tomes I am getting for it. This weekend I got Ruby for trial roulette and wound up in a party that kept dying during the 2nd Phase DPS check and after 30 minutes I was the only one left, then when the party refilled they wiped a few more times and my gear went to 0% and I had to be the one to leave after all that time wasted.

While of course, if you get these new trials and raids in roulette you have the option to just leave, but then I deal with the penalty and I am almost guaranteed to get them again when I re-queue.

I just feel giving people time to learn and understand them before throwing them into roulette where it is like SURPRISE and you're forced to contend with it.

Anyway just my two cents. I mean at this point I could just skip both of these dailies, but I hate to lose out on my tomes.

Also, I am not thinking it should be a major delay, like add them into the 5.21 patch 2-3 weeks later. I would also like to add that it has become regular routine since the new content dropped that when Ruby or the new Edens pop in the roulette, half the party just automatically leaves anyway. I can understand why, especially for the Edens. If I have already got my one piece per raid already, doing them again is really just pointless.

If they weren't in the roulette, they'd never refill when someone drops. So as annoying as it can be to get Ramuh four times in a week after getting my drop (true story), I don't see it happening.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If they weren't in the roulette, they'd never refill when someone drops. So as annoying as it can be to get Ramuh four times in a week after getting my drop (true story), I don't see it happening.

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As I said, I understand for queue re-fill this is why it is there, but it's certainly making those two roulettes much longer and all the more frustrating.

Maybe a way to avoid that is to use lower gear so you don't meet the ilvl requirement?

Or just... Don't queue in progress at the start?

You're lucky, I got Chimera twice and Alexander several times this week. How boring...
And I think I got the new dungeon only once this week for EX roulette.

Remove your gear before you queue.

I can maybe see the argument for normal mode raids. People will be running them for new gear fairly consistently. If going for specific gear tokens, possibly repeating fights several times a week.

Ruby weapon though? It needs to be in there because the game gives no incentive to run ruby weapon normal more than once for the story. Since for whatever reason, there's no actual reward other than a few tomestones for doing story mode trials. So you need the extra incentive to get people in there sooner than you theoretically do for raids.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I just feel giving people time to learn and understand them before throwing them into roulette where it is like SURPRISE and you're forced to contend with it.

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Roulette's functioning as it's intended to be. Your 'random' queue is to join duties that others need - and yes it's usually the new content.

If you dont want to join part runs uncheck partial runs (for now). It may take longer but no partial runs.

Use the trial/raid roulette for XP on a class that's not 80.
Or run one of the EX roulette dungeons a 2nd time, outside of the roulette, if it's the tomestones you're after.
Or remove just enough gear that you don't qualify for the 5.2 options.
Or wait until tomorrow (or possibly a week from tomorrow), where more people than not showing up will have done the fight before.

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

Roulette's functioning as it's intended to be. Your 'random' queue is to join duties that others need - and yes it's usually the new content.

If you dont want to join part runs uncheck partial runs (for now). It may take longer but no partial runs.

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I will just strip all my gear off and queue so I only get ARR stuff then.