Eureka is still crap!

Wish I could post a screenshot. I went into Pagos to try to get my glamour. ZERO people there. Killed two mobs for 8000 exp each, they IMMEDIATELY respawned on me and killed me. As there was NOONE there I had to release and lost 3,081,900 exp. WONDERFUL!!!!!!!! The Echo doesnt mean anything, this place is still horrible.
Fix it for crying out loud as its 100% dead now.

Short version, its dead, noone there, cant kill anything with echo, 1 death = having to kill 400 freakin mobs to just break even :/

Going in there on patch day isn't a very smart decision.

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Originally Posted by Thaeros

Wish I could post a screenshot. I went into Pagos to try to get my glamour. ZERO people there. Killed two mobs for 8000 exp each, they IMMEDIATELY respawned on me and killed me. As there was NOONE there I had to release and lost 3,081,900 exp. WONDERFUL!!!!!!!! The Echo doesnt mean anything, this place is still horrible.
Fix it for crying out loud as its 100% dead now.

Short version, its dead, noone there, cant kill anything with echo, 1 death = having to kill 400 freakin mobs to just break even :/

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I have the completely opposite experience. Still plenty of people in Anemos on the Light data centre. Fun content and easy to kill NMs as their HP appears to be based on the number of people around. I get that you're pissed off but maybe don't come on the forums to make ridiculously over-generalised statements? You had a bad experience, that doesn't make the content factually crap

enemies don't respawn immediately, you just killed them so slowly and decided to stand in their spawn point, also echo pretty much made you twice as strong.

I was in anemos Sunday, plenty of people. Went into anemos Monday and there were plenty of people. Went into anemos Tuesday. Dead as a dodo. I dunno how pagos is normally as I am only now catching up due to nerfs making me hate the content a lot less, but it seems timing with patch could be a big contributing factor here. At least for number of people there.

Usually there are still a lot of people there.
But on patch-day? Of course not, as all the new things are somewhere else.

Yeah, if you're trying to kill anything more than a couple levels higher than you, of course you're going to have a bad time. It's still a relic grind, unfortunately, so they probably don't want to make it dead easy. I also choose to believe you may have also failed to set your magia board correctly.

Also, let's take a moment to dissect this. In Pagos, because glamour. The only glamour items from Pagos drop from standard lockboxes, which you get in abundance from NMs. So, firstly, you shouldn't be needing to aim for the high level mobs to get your glams. Secondly, have you even tried looking at the MB? I'd wager every one of those items is pretty cheap. Personally, I usually just end up vendoring them, since it's just not even worth trying to list. (unless, I guess, if you're after the Boutique materials to craft glams, maybe those might be rare/expensive)

BA was the best content this game has ever produced

There is no problem with Eureka however there is one between the chair and the computer.

Go to Eureka on patch day.
See noboby.
Start fighting nonetheless.
Manage to get killed with echoes.
Complain about not being resurrected and losing exp.

Eureka is something a lot of people do during downtime. Patch day isn't really 'downtime'.

Well, even if patch day's a terrible time to judge, OP isn't exactly wrong...

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Well, even if patch day's a terrible time to judge, OP isn't exactly wrong...

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Yup, its still crap overall, just less obnoxious crap.

Why does this OP read like a bad yelp review

Soloing mobs was totally doable even before the numerous Eureka nerfs. If you can't do that now with the echo you might want to check how to use correctly the magia board, the eurekan potions and how to be more aware of your surroudings.

I'd like to see them continue to nerf Eureka, but I have a feeling they'll stick the mounts and things in a future moogle tome event and let the content rot.

Well get ready because we are getting more "Eureka like" content come 5.25 for the relic. They seem to not be tying the actual progress of the relic to it, but I doubt they would actually let you complete a relic without making you complete the content it came with.

Eureka is going pretty strong still. It's now going to be dead for a few weeks given the new content but at least on Crystal a friend and I earned our Whm Eureka Relics and there was in Hydatos at least close to 100 people each night with a BA group running and getting clears no less.

That's like, your opinion, man.
I love Eureka, but i know better than to go in on patch day.
During the week there can be about 20 - 40 people in an instance and on the weekends, it is around 80.
I mean, you can't solo the higher level mobs and expect a different outcome. This is on you, OP.

Patch day is not the best time to look for people in old content, especially grindy content which gives no benefit in the current expansion (roulettes give tomestones so players still do old dungeons and raids through them).

Back in 4.x times Eureka was really slow but still possible to solo. Now it's actually not too bad, at least once you accumulate some magicite. A couple days ago I did all of my challenge log entries solo on Pagos in about 90 minutes. Single mobs are total faceroll, two requires some form of heals, three means it's time to retreat unless one of them is almost dead. Of course Pagos has those void dragons which will wreck you if you wake them up.

It was great when it was new content but they should at this point remove exp loss.

I was there yesterday with my partner and we were just fighting mobs together with no issues. Then a third person showed up who seemed to be popping NMs, so we'd go help and the 3 of us fought quite a few with just us. Maybe set up a PF for even just a couple more people to join you. And if you're determined to solo, maybe pick a soloable job, like a tank or RDM.

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Patch day is not the best time to look for people in old content, especially grindy content which gives no benefit in the current expansion (roulettes give tomestones so players still do old dungeons and raids through them).

Back in 4.x times Eureka was really slow but still possible to solo. Now it's actually not too bad, at least once you accumulate some magicite. A couple days ago I did all of my challenge log entries solo on Pagos in about 90 minutes. Single mobs are total faceroll, two requires some form of heals, three means it's time to retreat unless one of them is almost dead. Of course Pagos has those void dragons which will wreck you if you wake them up.

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My only real problem with this is, unless I'm just kinda bad, it really doesn't apply to the highest level mobs in the zone, which often means the top handful of NMs are a bit out of reach for the solo player, which is a bit unfortunate.

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Of course Pagos has those void dragons which will wreck you if you wake them up.

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Pagos also has literally the worst zone design of anything in the game. I actually have been enjoying Eureka, but honestly, who thought it was a good idea to make a map where:

• Flight is unavailable.
• Death will cause you to lose XP, and possibly entire levels.
• Falling damage can reduce you to one hitpoint.
• Short of detouring around the entire dang map, the only effective way to get around is to leap off of cliffs and possibly into a mob of enemies. Or a void dragon. (Either will be a bad day.)

I mean, in my opinion the first three points only become a problem once combined with the fourth, but once they are MAN is that combination obnoxious...

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

Pagos also has literally the worst zone design of anything in the game. I actually have been enjoying Eureka, but honestly, who thought it was a good idea to make a map where:

• Flight is unavailable.
• Death will cause you to lose XP, and possibly entire levels.
• Falling damage can reduce you to one hitpoint.
• Short of detouring around the entire dang map, the only effective way to get around is to leap off of cliffs and possibly into a mob of enemies. Or a void dragon. (Either will be a bad day.)

I mean, in my opinion the first three points only become a problem once combined with the fourth, but once they are MAN is that combination obnoxious...

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Pyros isn't that much better. A lot of separated rooms connected by narrow corridors filled with mobs. Navigation that zone on a low-level char was a nightmare unless you had someone with 2/4-seater mount taxiing you around.