I hate it when Expert roulette only has 2 dungeons to rotate through every. Single. Day. Four was already a little iffy, but it was really nice in comparison to the usual 2-3 dungeons. They probably base expert roulette based on ilvl requirement, and that makes sense... but for the sake of sanity, could we please keep all level 80 dungeons as expert so we have some variety?
Keep all level 80 dungeons in Expert Roulette
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02-19-2020, 12:57 AMMOZZYSTARKeep all level 80 dungeons in Expert Roulette
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02-19-2020, 12:59 AMRaltar
No. I hate getting Amaurot in my roulette. This was one of the best changes ever.
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02-19-2020, 01:05 AMMOZZYSTARWHAT? WHY? XD I loved Amaurot. (Amaurot and Akadaemia Anyder were my favourites. x'D )Quote:
Originally Posted by Raltar
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02-19-2020, 01:07 AMRaltarBecause item level sync.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR
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02-19-2020, 06:47 AMIscahIsn't everything else synched now as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raltar
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02-19-2020, 07:02 AMQooEramaurot synced you to 430, the others sync to 470. amaurot takes forever even with good players just because of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
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02-19-2020, 09:29 AMReviaInfantry
Is it changed?
I am fairly sure it synced to iL440 last I went in. -
02-19-2020, 09:42 AMRyaz
Hey, we got an extra roulette out of it that gives more tomes. I'll take it.
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02-19-2020, 12:36 PMZanarkand-RonsoI support this as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryaz
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02-19-2020, 12:48 PMalthenawhmBut if you are running it for Allegory the 80 roulette is worse than spamming the two new ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryaz
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02-19-2020, 01:44 PMVenKitsune
Now that we're only getting 1 dungeon per patch, which means only 5 dungeons post-expansion launch, i agree, we dont need an arbitrary lvl 80 roulette nobody ever does.
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02-19-2020, 02:33 PMDuskane
Amaurot is cool and all but im glad it's out of expert roulette
Like i understood ilevel for sake of the old tank stance when DPS really could rip through aggro on a new tank but now Tank Enmity is so strong i see no point in ilevel sync story dungeon -
02-19-2020, 04:31 PMGrizzlyTankHonestly would have been nice if they started doing like wow where stuff and rewards scale each patch so that expert wouldn't be stuck in it's current situation, and we wouldn't be restricted to the ilvl sync.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raltar
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02-19-2020, 06:50 PMSeraphor
If you're after Allegory, then running Expert Roulette and getting either Amaurot, Twinning or Akademia (15 tomes) instead of Cosmos or Anamnesis (50 tomes) would be quite the kick in the teeth.
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02-19-2020, 09:05 PMRaiya
Honestly I think they should have waited till 4.3 to split the lvl80 Dungeon roulette imo, it was different when we had 3 dungeons but a roulette only having 2 dungeons is really strange just like prae/castrum.
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02-19-2020, 09:18 PMDeceptusThis is the exact reason I bail on Amaurot if I don't see a newbie bonus. I hate having my lvl 80 materia removed in level 80 content. It's stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by QooEr
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02-19-2020, 10:05 PMMaero
Akademia and Grand Cosmos i have ran the crap out of and still love them.
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02-19-2020, 10:08 PMNarielIf Amaurot take that long with good player then they aren't as good as you think they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by QooEr
On subject : We had it coming when one dungeon per patch became the standad for the sake of niche content. -
02-19-2020, 10:12 PMRadicalPesto
Maybe instead of ruining Expert Roulette because people don't like Amaurot's ilevels sync, they should stop ilevel sync from disabling materia already. Also Amaurot taking 5 minutes longer than the Twinning isn't bad enough to merit giving us a horrible two dungeon roulette for four months. I'd much rather have a real roulette with one very slightly longer dungeon than the same coin flip every day.
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02-19-2020, 11:10 PMPriya
Dungeon ilvl sync is poor design anyway; just let the power creep happen. Coin flip roulette is also poor design; all the new current level cap dungeons should be added to the expert roulette so we can maintain variety.
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02-19-2020, 11:10 PMNoitems
Or they could just realistically boost the tomes you get for the older 80 dungeons so that those going through MSQ can gear up faster?
The problem is with IL sync in Amaurot and the like is that many new players going into Amaurot/Twinning/Akademia are rocking lvl 79 forgiven gear. So that sync is there to help them out while they gear up. Personally I think the most realistic option they could do is just boost the amount of tomes you get from the 5.0 level 80 dungeons.
That's a big problem for new players as they have to entirely gear their belt/right side and some players I've gone into roulettes with in some cases don't even have their AF gear (which is still a big issue when the game basically gives it to you for free.
Increasing tome count keeps players in there and gives more value to those rous. -
02-20-2020, 06:56 AMdeadman1204
Best Change Ever.
Hated Amaurot. So many tanks/dps (lots of mchs and bards too) would just sit in ALL the bads and expect to get healed through them. -
02-20-2020, 09:30 AMAvidria
Yeah was hoping we'd keep more than two in the roulette for a change... Oh well
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02-20-2020, 02:18 PMVenKitsuneI think they're suggesting that the rewards are flat across the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
I mean...why not? More variety, ilvl sync so they'd all take about the same amount of time to complete, and it eliminates the need for a useless lvl 80 roulette nobody ever runs apart from maybe crafters for the first week of a patch desperately trying to get tomes for mats. -
02-20-2020, 03:05 PMTlamila
I was hoping to keep Twinning and Akademia but I'm happy to get rid of Aumarot, and ofc you can't do a lvl 80 roulette with just Aumarot.
As others said already, it's good to have a division because the other dungeons reward too few now, and it wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't be fair to make them reward as much as the new ones, since they're easier. Plus, even if you leave aside tomes and materia, the gear level dropped is very different too.
It's also good to have a lvl 80 roulette for people who are just gearing up, to get a load of lower level tomes and be in full deepshadow first. Think how people who just finished MSQ don't have the ilvl to even enter Cosmos, let alone the new dungeon. And if higher geared people want more tomes in one day, it's also good to have more roulettes for it. -
02-20-2020, 05:07 PMGeminaI was unaware this happens only in Amaurot...Quote:
Originally Posted by deadman1204
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02-23-2020, 02:15 PMRasikkoI've gotten Amaurot twice in a row now in this 80 roulette. You're only gonna avoid it by not doing the roulette at all. I don't like it either, it's a mental drain. No matter how well/optimized I play, that i440 sync bottle necks the crap out of my character.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadman1204
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02-23-2020, 07:04 PMSeraphorBut there's no reason to do 80 roulette anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasikko
Doing either Cosmos or Anamnesis on it's own gives you more Allegory than doing 80 roulette.
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02-23-2020, 07:09 PMLaylaTsarra
Hunt trains are the new tome machine. Current A rank 16/16 trains yield 160 Allegory, 320 Phanta and 640 Nuts. Dungeons take way too long. Personally I wouldn't mind if they kept all 5 dungeons in Expert Roulette. It sure gives more variety when you queue for it.
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02-23-2020, 08:29 PMKDSilver
No. That's one more roulette to get tomestone to buy material. It's great.