Proposal for new Ultimate Raid: Let the Nier team do it!

They have tried to kill us, to varying degrees success in their new raids... So why don't we let them finish the job in a Nier themed Ultimate fight? They could even have somebody choose to sacrifice their weekly loot chance to spawn the chests at the end of the battle! :p

Can we let them finish the final Nier 24-man first? There's still 2 more of them to go, you know.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

They have tried to kill us, to varying degrees success in their new raids... So why don't we let them finish the job in a Nier themed Ultimate fight? They could even have somebody choose to sacrifice their weekly loot chance to spawn the chests at the end of the battle! :p

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That would be a bit odd considering ultimates so far have been already existing 8 man raid content reimagined. There's no 8 man Nier content.

I'm not against the idea. I just think it would be a bit weird to use non 8 man content as the template for an ultimate fight.

It could be cool. But I can see the concept having mixed reactions.

No thanks, ultimate has a pattern and I don't want to encourage the idea of crossovers by breaking formula just for Nier. Nier isn't special and should be kept within the 24man formula where crossovers are normal.

Keep ultimate as ultimate and give people what they want (Warring triad, thordan, Omega + Shinryu, 4 lords, Garlean generals etc.)

I played NieR after I did the raid. I really loved the game, but I don't think you should abuse it. It's like FFXV: doing and seeing too much would end up giving it a really bad impression. This crossover for raids is already huge. Let's stop here.

Moreover, what would become FFXIV if the game begins to base all of its content on crossover?

No.

The Nier raid is probably the worst 24-men raid in the game and amounts to little more than fanservice, I don't see why using another game the has nothing to do with ffxiv both from a lore and from a gameplay point of view as a reference for the pinnacle of this game's battle content would be a good idea.

Raids not that great and there are much more deserving fights

I'm holding out for Yokai Watch Ultimate.

The next ultomate probanly in work that makes sense , should be either Shinryu or Omega, or both together in a kind of interesting triangle fight maybe

Omega had enough time to study as male n female us to come up with a new way to defeat us and shinryu

Nier content is terrible in every aspect. Such a missed opportunity on providing additional lore, unlike it's predecessors.

I don't wish to see another ultimate for a year. I still need to start on TEA after 5.2

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

I don't wish to see another ultimate for a year. I still need to start on TEA after 5.2

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SB only released 2 Ultimate fights so unless they change it up, there is a good chance you'll have a long time to work on TEA.

I swear they give you people an inch and you try to take a mile.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

SB only released 2 Ultimate fights so unless they change it up, there is a good chance you'll have a long time to work on TEA.

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In fact, they had planned three ultimates during SB, but canceled the last one because their teams were focused on Baldesion. They feared that the ultimate was of poor quality compared to UcoB and UwU. Depending on the content provided on ShB, we can still have a second or even a third ultimate during the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Sheli54

In fact, they had planned three ultimates during SB, but canceled the last one because their teams were focused on Baldesion. They feared that the ultimate was of poor quality compared to UcoB and UwU. Depending on the content provided on ShB, we can still have a second or even a third ultimate during the expansion.

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Hmm never heard about that. I remember Yoshida giving an Dengeki interview response saying that based on community response that though they originally thought of having an Ultimate fight every odd patch that they changed their minds and 2 per expansion would be better.

https://www.cgmagonline.com/2018/11/...naoki-yoshida/

But no Baldesion ... I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, but maybe that was just one more argue. You're right ! So, nevermind, probability to have a third ultimate is close to zero now :(

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Originally Posted by Sheli54

https://www.cgmagonline.com/2018/11/...naoki-yoshida/

But no Baldesion ... I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, but maybe that was just one more argue. You're right ! So, nevermind, probability to have a third ultimate is close to zero now :(

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Not unexpected, but it still makes me sad...I really hope they have something interesting in store for the patch without the ultimate raid...possibly something not based on mindless grind.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I'm holding out for Yokai Watch Ultimate.

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Well crap, I want this to happen now :D

that would be a very bad idea to waste their time to make something which very few people even try.

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Originally Posted by Sheli54

In fact, they had planned three ultimates during SB, but canceled the last one because their teams were focused on Baldesion. They feared that the ultimate was of poor quality compared to UcoB and UwU. Depending on the content provided on ShB, we can still have a second or even a third ultimate during the expansion.

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Exact answer and source: https://mogtalk.org/2019/05/29/media...s-to-ultimate/

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Exact answer and source: https://mogtalk.org/2019/05/29/media...s-to-ultimate/

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Aaaaah !! Thank you !!

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Originally Posted by Yshtola

Nier content is terrible in every aspect. Such a missed opportunity on providing additional lore, unlike it's predecessors.

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XIV CM: What are you most looking forward to about the new NieR raids?
Me: The opportunity for a real, dark Yoko Taro spin on XIV lore!

XIV CM: Well, wasn't that exciting?!
Me: ...I mean, at least the combat wasn't quite the worst raid yet... But did you spend all of a dozen man-hours establishing its place in XIV, specifically? Less?

Personally, I'm most looking forward to Sephi, Sophi, and Zurvan or the Four Lords.

I would assume the next Ultimate would be either Thordan, Nidhogg, or the Warring Triad.

They could probably pair the first two into one huge encounter, actually. Start by fighting Thordan with the Heavens' Ward performing their various mechanics. As Thordan gets low, they sacrifice themselves to power him up into a new form for the next phase. As the fight continues, he gets desperate and calls on Ratatoskr's stolen power, which enrages Nidhogg's spirit and brings him out. The party has to fend off both the empowered Thordan and the enraged Nidhogg at the same time, until finally Thordan is struck down, causing Nidhogg to absorb his aether and transform into an even greater form for the finale. Could be pretty epic.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

the Warring Triad.

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If they do that and bring Kefka at the end, it would be PERFECT ! ... But there is no lore about Kefka and them in FFXIV :(

Just yesterday i said i wish the Nier Raid had been 8 man instead of 24.
I am a huge Nier fan but having to endure the sometimes cluster____ of runs makes it so tedious.