No more rings displaying when using No.2 Type B gloves

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12-10-2019, 09:36 PM
AngelyLowell

No more rings displaying when using No.2 Type B gloves

As Patch note says:

An issue wherein the graphics of equipment obtained from the alliance raid the Copied Factory did not display correctly.
* As a result of addressing this issue, certain equipment for the hands that appear as bracelets will now display. However, certain equipment that appears as rings will no longer display.

This is so sad, I was loving to use the gloves with some rings =(

Can we get it back?
12-10-2019, 09:55 PM
Awful

Interesting, this also goes with this that SE posted:

The appearance of certain equipment obtained from the alliance raid the Copied Factory has been adjusted.
* Due to this adjustment, certain portions of the equipment will appear transparent.
* These portions of the equipment will not appear transparent under certain conditions.

I don't understand what these means does anyone know?
12-10-2019, 09:59 PM
NessaWyvern

The little pattern near the boob window used to be just a brownish colour, iirc, but now it will be transparent
12-10-2019, 10:20 PM
Awful

Quote:

Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

The little pattern near the boob window used to be just a brownish colour, iirc, but now it will be transparent

Ah makes sense, I just looked at the pants and you can see your skin color through the tights as well, same with the boob window.
12-10-2019, 10:31 PM
Nedkel

Thank god for the change.
12-10-2019, 10:57 PM
Driavna

There is also a lot of problem with using any of the regular leggings with Nº2 boots. If you mix striking with the boots the stocking disappears.

https://i.imgur.com/4lUPNBw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5BbvnbS.jpg

And if you mix it with DRG leggins is even worst:

https://i.redd.it/fx5dbkfdss341.png
12-11-2019, 12:26 AM
Iscah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driavna

There is also a lot of problem with using any of the regular leggings with Nº2 boots. If you mix striking with the boots the stocking disappears.

Whether it's related or not, I've noticed previously when trying on Thancred's HW gear that's there are connecting straps between the shirt and gloves that disappear if you've got other gloves equipped - definitely for elbow length gloves, anyway; not sure about other full-length gloves. So there is a system somewhere that recognises that combination.

Fixing the transparent fabrics is nice though. I wonder if they corrected it for older gear that had the same issue, or just the NieR stuff?
12-11-2019, 01:37 AM
Driavna

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iscah

Whether it's related or not, I've noticed previously when trying on Thancred's HW gear that's there are connecting straps between the shirt and gloves that disappear if you've got other gloves equipped - definitely for elbow length gloves, anyway; not sure about other full-length gloves. So there is a system somewhere that recognises that combination.

Fixing the transparent fabrics is nice though. I wonder if they corrected it for older gear that had the same issue, or just the NieR stuff?

Before today's patch I was using that combo and worked but now is like in the second SS. And yes certain pieces remove X from other gear to make space for it. This is the first time I have seen something so unnecessary like this.
12-11-2019, 01:47 AM
Iscah

Actually, I wonder if it's to do with how the different parts of the body model go together with different gear. I'd guess that the cutoff line where the stockings vanish or get holes in them is where the "foot gear with long boots" model piece meets the "leg gear" model piece.
12-11-2019, 03:55 AM
Mightion

I also noticed the leggings have been modified by making the butt slightly (but visibly) flatter - this was certainly done to address clipping issues when sitting on the ground with some outfits; I verified that by putting one on and sitting.

Ah well, it was nice while it lasted. :/
12-11-2019, 04:07 AM
Nedkel

The cut outs are not transparent either, just a dark colored skin.

Is this what the most hyped costume made like? The top suit looks weird to say the least.
12-11-2019, 11:08 AM
Iscah

A further thought on the stockings: previously-existing gear (such as the bunny tights and the previous iteration of this gear) suggests they can't do "skin colour under transparent fabric" and just apply a fixed colour.

If it's now correctly reflecting skin colour then perhaps they're doing it like 'real' stockings with a very thin transparent layer sitting just over the leg model - and if it gets switched out for a long boot model, and the other model is even a tiny bit bigger, it clips through the stockings and they end up inside rather than outside the leg.

Edit: looking at the images from this bug report, it does look like there's a separate tube of transparent 'fabric' around the leg, but something has gone wrong and part of the leg itself is vanishing. I've previously noticed that character body pieces seem designed to go invisible when viewed from the inside out (ie. if the camera ends up inside a body), so you're not left staring at the inside of their head or whatever. I wonder if the leg model has been put 'wrong side out', if that's possible.

Edit edit: could be something to do with the bit that clipped through the stockings becoming invisible when viewed though the back of the stockings.
12-11-2019, 02:42 PM
Ariane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedkel

The cut outs are not transparent either, just a dark colored skin.

Is this what the most hyped costume made like? The top suit looks weird to say the least.

My legacy mark shows through the cutouts now, so they appear to be transparent now:
https://i.imgur.com/2kOsO6A.png
Before the patch, the legacy mark was not visible through these cutouts.

Further here's what happens to the cutouts/stockings when looking at them behind glass (or looking at them through the surface of water):
https://i.imgur.com/UZe52pM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gKPXiKD.jpg
They disappear. It seems like they can't show another transparent effect while its behind another transparent effect. This is why they warned in the patch that it could disappear in certain situations.
12-11-2019, 03:10 PM
NessaWyvern

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariane

My legacy mark shows through the cutouts now, so they appear to be transparent now:
https://i.imgur.com/2kOsO6A.png
Before the patch, the legacy mark was not visible through these cutouts.

Further here's what happens to the cutouts/stockings when looking at them behind glass (or looking at them through the surface of water):
https://i.imgur.com/UZe52pM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gKPXiKD.jpg
They disappear. It seems like they can't show another transparent effect while its behind another transparent effect. This is why they warned in the patch that it could disappear in certain situations.

Aye, I can see my Au Ra scales through my stockings now, kinda looks neat
12-12-2019, 12:08 AM
testname

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelyLowell

As Patch note says:

An issue wherein the graphics of equipment obtained from the alliance raid the Copied Factory did not display correctly.
* As a result of addressing this issue, certain equipment for the hands that appear as bracelets will now display. However, certain equipment that appears as rings will no longer display.

This is so sad, I was loving to use the gloves with some rings =(

Can we get it back?

Fun Detected? Lets fix it ... Thanks SE