Pixie reputation capped!

Time to leave Il Mheg and not have any reason to go back, like the rest of the zones!

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OK boomer
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I, too, will miss traveling to a zone where everyone wants to turn me into foliage, drown me, or otherwise keep me bound to them forever.

Each quest gives 1~2m EXP, so you have reasons to go back.

Oh yeah! Beast tribe quests are a thing that was added!

They offer good EXP if you need a source to level up alts.

There's plenty of reason to go back, even the stormblood beast tribes are worth going back to. Going on time spent to exp gained the order for higest xp is:

1. Pixie beast tribes (1-2mil exp depending on level 5-10min to do)
2. Any fates if you have a group
3. Stormblood Beast tribes (Just over 2.1mil at allied for both about 15-20mins depending on how far spread ruby sea ones are)
4. Solo xp boost fates with twist of fate buff
5. Solo normal fates with twist of fate buff
6. Solo xp boost fates
7. Solo normal fates

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Time to leave Il Mheg and not have any reason to go back, like the rest of the zones!

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You could say the same with the city states. What reason do you have to go back there, if you completed everything? Ever heard of just enjoying the environments without being tied to an objective?

More allowances for other beast tribes. At least, for another week or so until I get my last two crafters over 50.

Everything is 80, so... nope!

I'd keep going back to get easy drops for materia trade ins and sell them on the mb. Barely any effort spent for some easy gil through materia selling.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Everything is 80, so... nope!

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Well too bad for you. Many of us have plenty of reasons to go back still. Gathering and hunts are additional reasons for spending time in most zones.

I mean it's also an easy 15 Phantasmagoria each day for very little effort.

I wish one of the rewards was fairy wings

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Originally Posted by SummonerSenah

I mean it's also an easy 15 Phantasmagoria each day for very little effort.

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Didn't think of that not done em on a maxed toon yet. Doing it every day thats 105 tomes a week for 5mins work a day deff worth it.

I'm literally max everything and there's still reason to visit. Daily hunts for nuts. Doing pixie tribe quests on max is 15 easy fanta tomes every day. Doing some fates to get gems (though I prefer doing in the Tempest since you don't have to sync). Gathering. Pictures.

I only go there for screenshots. One of the best locales for them. Colorful, bright, even at night (especially) with filters.

It's very easy to feel like you run out of reasons to do things when content is treated like a checklist.
An infinitely long checklist is not a reasonable expectation though so I'm not sure how "not having a reason to go back" is a bad thing in that sense - it lets you work on your other to-do lists.

If you want to go back, then that should be reason enough to.

I do every quest daily so I can sell furniture to people who don't want to do the quests or haven't gotten to Shadowbringers.

More gil for moi.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

OK boomer
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I'm assuming that's some sort of stupid meme. Makes me glad I don't use the internet like that, because then I would risk sounding just as stupid.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Well too bad for you. Many of us have plenty of reasons to go back still. Gathering and hunts are additional reasons for spending time in most zones.

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Right up until you don't have reasons to go back. Then you're in the same inevitably sad boat.

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Originally Posted by Infindox

I'm literally max everything and there's still reason to visit. Daily hunts for nuts. Doing pixie tribe quests on max is 15 easy fanta tomes every day. Doing some fates to get gems (though I prefer doing in the Tempest since you don't have to sync). Gathering. Pictures.

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Nothing that is going to keep you there for any length of time. All of those things puts you in that zone for a few minutes at most individually. Also, the argument for tomestones is silly if you're max everything. Tank / healer queues will max you out within a day, maybe two if you decide to slow roll it.

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Originally Posted by Sated

It's very easy to feel like you run out of reasons to do things when content is treated like a checklist.
An infinitely long checklist is not a reasonable expectation though so I'm not sure how "not having a reason to go back" is a bad thing in that sense - it lets you work on your other to-do lists.

If you want to go back, then that should be reason enough to.

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There doesn't need to be an infinitely long checklist, just something that makes being in the zone for more than five minutes worth it. I want to go back to every zone all the time and do things all day in them. There just isn't anything to do in them.

I wish they'd add more things to do at the beach. I've already built a sandcastle and gone swimming, so now I have no reason to ever go back. I don't understand why other people like beaches. I mean, I can just sit and read at home.


True story. Maybe you need to invent your own reason. Having some insane grind just to keep you in a zone just makes people upset, see atmas, eureka, diadem, etc...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I wish they'd add more things to do at the beach. I've already built a sandcastle and gone swimming, so now I have no reason to ever go back. I don't understand why other people like beaches. I mean, I can just sit and read at home.


True story. Maybe you need to invent your own reason. Having some insane grind just to keep you in a zone just makes people upset, see atmas.

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Sure. I'll just invent my own reason rather than wishing they would do something about increasing the longevity of the zones.

Silly me for wanting them to take some of the beautifully created assets in their game and utilize them more.

But hey, at least I can go to the empty zones and twiddle my thumbs meaningfully and get a sense of satisfaction from my time spent there.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Sure. I'll just invent my own reason rather than wishing they would do something about increasing the longevity of the zones.

Silly me for wanting them to take some of the beautifully created assets in their game and utilize them more.

But hey, at least I can go to the empty zones and twiddle my thumbs meaningfully and get a sense of satisfaction from my time spent there.

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People do that at beaches all the time, I'm not understanding the difference.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

People do that at beaches all the time, I'm not understanding the difference.

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The difference is that you're being willfully obtuse when you know exactly what I mean.

Perhaps you should head to that beach you're talking about and take a long walk off a short pier.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

The difference is that you're being willfully obtuse when you know exactly what I mean.

Perhaps you should head to that beach you're talking about and take a long walk off a short pier.

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Nah, that wouldn't be fun. Maybe find some friends who like to do overworld stuff.

Anything meaningful will be zerged, see hunts. Everything else has an end objective, or you "only spend a few minutes there so what's the point"


Maybe look less at how much time you spend there and more at enjoying the time while you are there?

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Sure. I'll just invent my own reason rather than wishing they would do something about increasing the longevity of the zones.

Silly me for wanting them to take some of the beautifully created assets in their game and utilize them more.

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Increase the longevity by how much? Utilize them more in what way?

In my experience, whenever people want more longevity, it just turns into meaningless grinds. I think FFXIV has a good enough length for a grind as it is. Future MSQ may visit the zones again, and there are always hunts and gathering nodes.

You can make your own content, do some role play or have an event with your friends in the zone of your choosing.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

I'm assuming that's some sort of stupid meme. Makes me glad I don't use the internet like that, because then I would risk sounding just as stupid.



Right up until you don't have reasons to go back. Then you're in the same inevitably sad boat.



Nothing that is going to keep you there for any length of time. All of those things puts you in that zone for a few minutes at most individually. Also, the argument for tomestones is silly if you're max everything. Tank / healer queues will max you out within a day, maybe two if you decide to slow roll it.



There doesn't need to be an infinitely long checklist, just something that makes being in the zone for more than five minutes worth it. I want to go back to every zone all the time and do things all day in them. There just isn't anything to do in them.

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Just because YOU can't see a reason to go back, doesn't mean there is not a reason for others to go back and for them to continue to go back.

I'm sure I'll be back in 6.0 when we have new jobs to level and I'm looking for the easy boost to 80. Especially if they don't add another deep dungeon.

Actually, it just occurred to me that we've had no word of any optional trials like the Warring Triad or the Four Lords for ShB. Huh.

FFXIV offers a certain deal to players. Part of that deal is: You dont have to revisit zones after you are done with your MSQ, except for stuff you dont really need. You can play the game as a multiplayer lobby game 98% of your gametime, not leaving whatever hub you decide to be at, ideally your FC house.

The core gameplay, which is relatively small, short and easy compared to more mature or serious MMORPGs, is a lobby game grinder. The side activities are what makes FFXIV be more than a lackluster gear treadmill, and they need you to go places.

You seem to expect FFXIV to change its nature to an actual MMORPG. Its not, and the supercasual playerbase wouldnt want it to be. Actual MMORPGs died out a while ago, being replaced by faux open worlds with lobby gameplay.

As someone who hates doing the same thing over and over for any length of time, I like FFXIV.

I enjoy all the side content, and sometimes I just like to ride around in zones looking for nice screenshots. If I wanna chill, I can chill. If I want to challenge myself, I can do that too.

Atm I have just been leveling my crafters, while breaking it up with an occasional hades, maybe spend some time in the gold saucer, do a little bit of front lines, work on my glamours, and I'm happy with it.

I quite like the new beast quests, and I think the little zone is pretty cool, so I'll probably pop by from time to time

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Time to leave Il Mheg and not have any reason to go back, like the rest of the zones!

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You mean until they add the Nu Mou beast tribe.

You're complaining about not seeing anymore the only area of the expansion in which you had extra to do with beast tribes? Then waht about the rest?

I personally can't wait till I don't have to see a pixie ever again.

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Originally Posted by linay

Increase the longevity by how much? Utilize them more in what way?

In my experience, whenever people want more longevity, it just turns into meaningless grinds. I think FFXIV has a good enough length for a grind as it is. Future MSQ may visit the zones again, and there are always hunts and gathering nodes.

You can make your own content, do some role play or have an event with your friends in the zone of your choosing.

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People seem to wring content dry like laundry they gotta wear in 2 hours. But have nowhere to go.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8c4da6e12f96ba

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Certain destinations for pixie beast tribe quest objectives have been changed.

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You can now go back and do some more quests to see what was changed, just out of curiosity. You may have to go through every quest.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

I'm assuming that's some sort of stupid meme. Makes me glad I don't use the internet like that, because then I would risk sounding just as stupid.

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Good boy. Mum must be so proud.

All I see here is "I play constantly without stopping so I've maxed everything and run out of content".

Well, guess what? 99% of the player base hasn't, so there's plenty of reasons to go back. Exp from pixies. Hunts. Shared fates. Side quests that haven't been completed. Screen shots. Gathering.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Good boy. Mum must be so proud.

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Case in point.

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

You could say the same with the city states. What reason do you have to go back there, if you completed everything?

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Let me just open my mobile MB...oh wait

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Everything is 80, so... nope!

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Nothing stops you from just going there and walk around you know.

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

I, too, will miss traveling to a zone where everyone wants to turn me into foliage, drown me, or otherwise keep me bound to them forever.

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This, except unironically.

Life is hard for those with Stockholm Syndrome.