Okay so Trusts don't give credit now but Unsynch dungeons still give credit to the 300, but not the 200?
Trusts take longer, are a higher level dungeon why wouldn't they give credit? you can't say its because Npc's help, because Unsynch level 61+ dungeon requires no help at all.
Oh and please don't waste my time telling me to do it in a party. I am aware of other methods I am just questioning why Trusts no longer count if Unsynch solo runs do.
Tanking Mount Achievements? Wtf?
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11-19-2019, 05:08 AMKagatoACTanking Mount Achievements? Wtf?
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11-19-2019, 05:18 AMlinay
It's probably because doing a dungeon/trial/raid unsynced can still be done with other people. Trust is solo experience, so there is no chance of helping anyone, while you can still help others clear a duty unsynced.
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11-19-2019, 05:23 AMVidu
The tank mount achievements were put in place to get more people to play tanks - first in higher level duties, then they realised that tanks are also (or even more...) needed in everyday content aswell, so those dungeons were added. You earn the achievment because you're playing as a role thats less played and often the one other people are waiting for to enter the duty... so... if you play with Trusts you actually dont do that.
The achievement isnt given for how much time you spent, its given for spending this time as a tank in a party - which can still be unsyched etc. -
11-19-2019, 12:32 PMKagatoAC
Well it either needs to be smart enough to recognize that there is no one else in the party, or Unysnch shouldn't count at all. Just my 2 cents.
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11-19-2019, 09:48 PMViduWhen you're using Trusts you're not using the Df to queue up for the duty in question, which is most likely how the system notices that you're not in a real party - maybe its even unintentional since the achievements were developed without Trusts in mind (since Trusts werent a thing until a few months ago).Quote:
Originally Posted by KagatoAC
Getting the system to detect wether or not you're by yourself might be a bit more difficult - might be possible to just not let unsnyched runs count at all, but I dont really see the point of that... -
11-19-2019, 09:50 PMHysterior
I think you completely missed the point of the achievement.
It is a "thank you" for playing tanks in DF (least played role) and helping the queues .
You are not helping anybody using the trust system. -
11-19-2019, 10:01 PMRasikkoHealers: Jury is still out on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
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11-19-2019, 10:07 PMLersayilCompletely locking out unsync might be unreasonable. Only partially related to the achievments, but many in our FC help out shruberry dps with low level mandatory dungeons due to queue times. Most aren't nice or patient enough for a normal queue so they just run them unsynced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidu
Not... the reason they do it, or why the achivments exist, but hey, its something? -
11-19-2019, 10:08 PMHysteriorWhat is happening this expansion with healers is nothing compared to the tank shortage since the game inception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasikko
However, at this rate you might see healer achievement popping up in a few month indeed. -
11-19-2019, 10:17 PMlinayI doubt that. Tanks still get plenty of chances at being adventurer in need, and even DPS gets a few of those as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysterior
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11-19-2019, 11:14 PMNessaWyvernWait? A level 61 dungeon gives credit towards the achieve? Never knew this before.Quote:
Originally Posted by KagatoAC
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11-19-2019, 11:20 PMFlay_windIn leveling roulette at least, i see Adventurer in Need (Healer) more often than the Adventurer in Need (Tank). I remember one hilarious Adventurer in Need (DPS) early in the morning, tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by linay
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11-19-2019, 11:27 PMAraxesTanks were the rarest mained role, yes but with the streamlining and easing of the overall game difficulty we have seen a massive increase in Tankplayers (even if its not for the better) at least on EU Servers.Quote:
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When i look up some Savageparties or Hades Extremegroups its actually mostly DPS and healers missing atm. -
11-19-2019, 11:33 PMNoitems
The only reason Tanks are still mainly AIN and get these rewards is because even after the pruning Tanking is the only job that requires at least a mild train of thought. Even then it's just guiding people down and picking up the mobs but it's still something.
I do think that Healers should be getting more for what they do especially since they're becoming a minority in content especially on the PVP end. -
11-19-2019, 11:34 PMDenzelVilliers
The purpose of the Achievment is to play at Duty Finder, we had a lack of Tank in the past and that's why the Achievment was created to begin with, to engage people to play as Tank.
Said that, why someone would be so upset about no Achievment progression playing at Trust System?, i got all Trust NPCs to Lv80 already and the time i take to clear a single Dungeon using the Trust System i defenitely can clear the same dungeon twice with random people at Duty Finder. Not to mention that you can do some content like Lakshmi and farm your achievment way quickly. -
11-19-2019, 11:44 PMViduThe "Tank you, [job]" ones can be earned by completing "50 dungeons (lv. 61 and above), extreme trials (lv. 61 and above), level 50/60/70 duty roulette dungeons, or duty roulette leveling duties", with the roulettes only counting with the daily reward bonus (aka: you need to do the roulette with the daily bonus as a tank - cant grab the bonus for a dps and then run the roulette again for the tank achievement).Quote:
Originally Posted by NessaWyvern