New player Relic weapon questions.

I just finished Heavensward and I want to do relic weapons for the glamours.

A lot of the information on these I see online seems to be years old, so I'm just curious in the games current state how difficult it would be to complete a HW relic weapon.

Just some basic questions like how long should it take? Can it be done solo? How expensive will it be? I have about 1 million gil and maxed out tome poetics and GC seals.

I only really want to do the relic for my Paladin, so what is 1 finished relic weapon gonna cost me?

Thanks.

It takes a decent chunk of time.

Many parts of it are soloable, but you have to do some hard mode primals, a couple of which will need a friend due to mechanics.

Theres very little $ cost, but youll need many, many, capped turnins of poetics (up to 14 or 15k i think) and another currency source, which will likely either be crafting scrips, gathering scrips, or ventures -> amber vilekin.


This guide is accurate for your needs: Anima Weapons

HW relics are probably the easiest relics to complete, and are easily completed without spending a single gil (except for teleporting, I suppose). A majority of the HW relic is just Poetic tomes, more and more and more and more Poetic tomes. You can do a lot of it solo, but you might need some help for a handful of things.

How long will it take?
That entirely depends on how fast you're generating Poetic tomes, since that's the bottleneck for many steps. You can actually prefarm a bunch of the stuff (maybe only if you've completed a HW relic before?). I like to buy all the poetics stuff in advance, then when I'm done I'll knock out a relic from start to finish in a day or two.

Step 1: Do some fates.
- Fast, easy, solo, free.

Step 2: Do these 10 old dungeons.
- Boring, but easy, soloable (unsync), and free.
- You can use a better weapon for the entirety of the dungeon, just make sure you have the crappy relic equipped when you exit.

Step 3: Get these various materials
- Easy, soloable, free.
- You can buy half of them with Grand Company seals. 80,000 GC seals in total.
- You can buy the other half with Poetics (and a handful of other methods, like ARR/HW beastmen quests). If you go Poetics-only, it's 6,000 Poetics.

Step 4: Get 5 Aether Oil
- Easy, soloable, free.
- You can buy these with 1,750 Poetics.

Step 5: Get a bunch of Crystal Sands and Umbrite
- Easy, soloable, free.
- The Umbrite will cost you roughly 4,500 ~ 5,500 Poetics.
- The Crystal Sands are most easily obtained via DoH/L Yellow Scrips by buying and trading in a bunch of Rowena's Token (Blue).
- If you don't do DoH/DoL, then some people run HW leves for the Amber-encased Vilekin trade-ins.
- You can technically get the sands via poetics as well (via the Unidentified items turn-in), but that's like... a shitload of poetics.

Step 6: Get 50 Singing Clusters
- Easy, soloable, free
- You can get these via a couple quests, or just buy all 50 for a total of 2,000 Poetics.

Step 7: Get 15 Pneumite, run 3 lv60 dungeons, get a bunch of light
- Easy, free, technically soloable but getting light solo is way slower than doing it in a group
- 60,000 GC seals for the Pneumite

Step 8: Get 1 Archaic Enchanted Ink, and run a bunch of old trials
- Mostly soloable, free
- 500 Poetics for the ink
- Most of the old trials are easily soloable. You might need a couple friends to tackle the last 4.
- You can use a better weapon for the trials, just make sure you have the crappy relic equipped as you exit.




Strictly adding up my bolded figures, that's...
- ~15,000 Poetics
- 140,000 GC seals

Thanks, a lot of useful information.

I assume the duty finder is fair game for anything requiring old trial or dungeon clears.

So, just so I'm clear, nothing actually requires crafting or crafting scrips? Can all be bought with poetics, GC seals and solo farming?

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Thanks, a lot of useful information.

I assume the duty finder is fair game for anything requiring old trial or dungeon clears.

So, just so I'm clear, nothing actually requires crafting or crafting scrips? Can all be bought with poetics, GC seals and solo farming?

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Correct, BUT I would recommend crafting or gathering personally as the scrips are much easier to do then the vilekin from leves.

With Ishgard restoration leveling a crafter is a joke right now, so pick your poison and get it up to around 50 or so (which is pretty quick) so you can start doing collectables. Collectables (and especially custom deliveries) are the easiest way of getting scrips and the turn in for them for the tokens you need is a breeze.

lol, honestly I do already have both gatherers and crafters leveled up past 50, some at 60. If I can do it with gathering scrips I may just do that, I just assumed the timed nodes would make it obnoxious but if it's that much faster then I'll go with it.

Also, What's the fastest way to farm poetics? I know I should hit the main scenario and level 50/60 dailies, but is there anything repeatable within the same day I can do for poetics?

And, are the evolutions of the anima weapons all usable as glamour when you get them, or do you have to finish the whole quest?

Timed nodes are really a joke. The scrips you get from Custom Deliveries will make up the bulk of your scrip exchange for tokens. However I'd say for an easier time do them as Crafters, since crafting them is much quicker then gathering since you just buy the mats at the Iddylshire for the 50-60 ones.

ARR/HW/SB hunts are a good way of getting them on top of the dailies. If you also like to PVP at prime time, running frontlines will get you them quickly too. But I'd say Hunts and Dailies are the two best ways of getting them, especially if you tank/heal for quick queues.

They are all usable but i don't believe you can purchase any until the weapon is completed. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but the node will sell you the replicas after you make the last one. I believe they changed it in Eureka though.

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Timed nodes are really a joke. The scrips you get from Custom Deliveries will make up the bulk of your scrip exchange for tokens. However I'd say for an easier time do them as Crafters, since crafting them is much quicker then gathering since you just buy the mats at the Iddylshire for the 50-60 ones.

ARR/HW/SB hunts are a good way of getting them on top of the dailies. If you also like to PVP at prime time, running frontlines will get you them quickly too. But I'd say Hunts and Dailies are the two best ways of getting them, especially if you tank/heal for quick queues.

They are all usable but i don't believe you can purchase any until the weapon is completed. Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but the node will sell you the replicas after you make the last one. I believe they changed it in Eureka though.

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I'm curious if you could elaborate on part of this...

I'm looking to kind of pre-farm the Crystal Sands I need, so I'm going to try for a bunch of yellow crafting scrips to trade in. What turn ins can I do where I can buy all of the mats in Idyllshire?

Anima Weapons are pretty easy to get, Relic weapons are horrible. HW ones are really easy though, but just finish the game and get to 80 first, it'll make things easier with soloing content.

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Anima Weapons are pretty easy to get, Relic weapons are horrible. HW ones are really easy though, but just finish the game and get to 80 first, it'll make things easier with soloing content.

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That would make sense, but I kind of want these for the rest of the story. I'm mostly doing this for aesthetics, so may as well get it now and enjoy them for the rest of the story.

Soloing content hasn't been much of an issue; My 60 Paladin has been able to solo any 50 content that doesn't have a mechanic that requires more than 1 person. The painful part seems to be poetics, but it looks like you can just keep running the aetherochemical research facility over and over for 150 poetics a pop. Fast queues with my tank and I should be able to power through the poetics requirement without too much pain. I'm already flush with GC seals as well.

The only thing I feel like I don't have a handle on is the scrips for Crystal Sand.

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Originally Posted by Goji1639

I'm curious if you could elaborate on part of this...

I'm looking to kind of pre-farm the Crystal Sands I need, so I'm going to try for a bunch of yellow crafting scrips to trade in. What turn ins can I do where I can buy all of the mats in Idyllshire?

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So for crafting, it's best to do it for the custom deliveries. So to do that you need to complete the quest in Mor Dhona (Go West Young Craftsman) and then you can talk to Zhloe in Iddylshire (Across from Khloe's booth inside a bar). There you can buy the materials you need to craft the turn in item in Iddylshire by the summoning bell.

If it's your first time doing the quest it'll only let you craft 3 of the item first before it swaps to another, so buy enough mats to make three of the first turn in item and then make a set of the new three after you turn them in.

Crafters are easiest scrips for collectables since they start at 50 and getting to 60 now is extremely easy. When you do that you can unlock Mnaago in Rhalgr's Reach and if you do sidequest chains in the Ruby Sea and Azim Steppe you can unlock Kurenai and Ardikragh.

They all have their own storylines to complete but by doing them unlock more options (including more options for bonus scrips).

After your deliveries are spent (12 in a week until reset) you want to gather collectable items from your gatherer. You'd go to the House of Splendors person in Iddylshire and look at what you can gather and then start gathering them as collectables.

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After your deliveries are spent (12 in a week until reset) you want to gather collectable items from your gatherer. You'd go to the House of Splendors person in Iddylshire and look at what you can gather and then start gathering them as collectables.

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Alternatively, look in the timers window (standard hotkey is CTRL+U) under "Rowena's House of Splendours" to check your daily collectable turn-ins.

Thanks, a lot of useful information there.

It seems like collectible gathering has improved a lot since the patch as well. I can get about 5-7 turn ins off 1 node for the Old World Fig and Yellow Copper Ore, giving me around 150 yellow scrips every 30 minutes.

If you are going to farm amber encased vilekin, the best leve to use for that is Dance, Magic Dance. You can see the majority of the spawning area from the small hill/cliff and a short flight of about 10 seconds will take you around to see whole area where they can spawn. Initiate the leve, check for treasure chest, loot it if it spawns, abandon the leve, retry, initiate.... just keep doing that. You don't have to actually complete the leve. I've been farming these for about a year, off and on. I've got 3 Lux weapons, almost 4. I've done this step four times total with ONLY vilekin farming (read: no scrips or other means of getting sand). I'm halfway through the 5th on this step.

Considering how tedious it is to farm vilekin, I would strongly recommend scrips instead. Thanks to Ishgard, or more specifically the /lean emote, I'm leveling my crafters and I will probably not farm vilekin anymore.

For the Light farming step, my recommendation is to do either Haukke Manor (Hard) or Brayflox Longstop (Hard). Both of those, once you get into a rhythm, can be cleared in four to six minutes unsynced. But if you can get some friends to Light farm with you, Alexander unsynced is much better. It's just not efficient solo, and can't be done at all solo on some jobs.

I'm addicted to Relic Hunting and I'll eventually have all the Relics. Lux are by far the easier Relics to get. Zeta.... ugh.... the tedium is real.

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Thanks, a lot of useful information there.

It seems like collectible gathering has improved a lot since the patch as well. I can get about 5-7 turn ins off 1 node for the Old World Fig and Yellow Copper Ore, giving me around 150 yellow scrips every 30 minutes.

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Honestly even before the nerfing in 5.0 crafting/gathering made the worst step the easiest. By 6.0 the light step will be nerfed enough one person can run A9S even with the weapon and be done in a good amount of time let alone in a group.

Really it all boils down to saving poetics/gc seals and getting the tokens as quickly as you can. I think in a whole I got a weapon done in a day because I stockpiled everything.

The Heavensward relic is actually extremely fast and while some of the fights aren't soloable, they are still pretty quick to just DF them once you get to that part. If you farm up all the materials beforehand you can finish it in a day. If you go at it casually a few weeks to a month max. Farming Light is a joke and It's even faster if you get into a group to farm A9S for sturdy light. The ARR Relic will take a bit longer due to how annoying the book step is. It's still extremely easy compared to how it used to be.

I happen to have just completed another Heavensward relic for glamor purposes. So your ability to complete it will depend on your own level and what you have access to, but... to answer one question. No. It can not be completed solo.

At level 80 I was able to do MOST of the completion for the weapon solo, however, the final step of the process requires you to do a victory lap of sorts completing all the primals, and Bismark is not possible to complete solo. Even at level 80, the sanua adds in that fight take basically zero damage if they're not kept seperated, so you'll need a friend to help for at least that step (or complete it in duty finder)

Beyond that, I can say I was able to complete the weapon in about a week. The steps definitely take a lot less time nowadays than they did back when they were current for sure.

Also, I would mention at this point if you want to complete it completely solo, when it comes to farming light, I would recommend doing this in Brayflox Hard Mode. You can do it faster with a team in Alexander Savage, but if you're going by yourself, then Brayflox is your best light for your time spent.

Yea, the character I'm doing this with is a level 60 Paladin, and I already hit a solo wall pretty early in I think it was Satasha Hard Mode. The first boss basically poisons you then 1 hit kills you if the poison isn't cleansed. I was able to hallowed ground the first one but he just kept doing it.

Mainly looking to solo as much as possible because I'd like to be able to get through some of the more tedious parts while I'm working, which means I could be frequently interrupted so groups are a no-go. I think I've got a good plan worked out now, thanks to all the help.

The one bonus of doing this at level 60 before starting Stormblood is that the weapon may actually be useful as more than just glamour for a few hours.

IMO the slow spots for the ARR and HW relics are the stages where you have to farm "light" by doing trials and such for points. At this point progression specific quests and getting items from trade ins and such are going to be trivial.

To do the anima weapon, I suggest you clear Alexander up to the ninth stage, where people farm the lights from the savage version of it. You can always check party finder to gather the people, usually on weekends.