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11-14-2019, 04:44 AM
Burningskull

As a crafter...

that doesn't use food, materia, and only has cp of 400; is there a good rotation for the Ishgardian stuff? I normally only get about 1800 collectibility.
11-14-2019, 05:12 AM
Rizon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burningskull

that doesn't use food, materia, and only has cp of 400; is there a good rotation for the Ishgardian stuff? I normally only get about 1800 collectibility.

As a fully geared and melded crafter (2370/2339/541) I have found that I still need an additional 30 CP in order to turn in level 80 synths at the highest level using all NQ mats. Others may have different results.
11-14-2019, 05:31 AM
Bonbori

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burningskull

that doesn't use food, materia, and only has cp of 400; is there a good rotation for the Ishgardian stuff? I normally only get about 1800 collectibility.

Why do you not use materia? Even if you're not looking to optimise, you can still get by just by capping out CP. CP materia aren't expensive on the MB and you can even get them from yellow scrip vendors. There is zero reason not to have your gear melded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

As a fully geared and melded crafter (2370/2339/541) I have found that I still need an additional 30 CP in order to turn in level 80 synths at the highest level using all NQ mats. Others may have different results.

You can get more CP with Blood Bouillabaisse. It's easy to make (only lv79 recipe) and all its ingredients are obtainable by retainers.
11-14-2019, 05:57 AM
SerLuke

If you want to go on the cheap use grade VI materia, the boost is similar and you have a 100% remove success rate
11-14-2019, 06:18 AM
Nihility

if your only willing to put in minimum effort expect minimum reward out of it

Sounds like you should be doing the level 60 turn-ins rather than the 80 ones
11-14-2019, 06:22 AM
Rizon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonbori

Why do you not use materia? Even if you're not looking to optimise, you can still get by just by capping out CP. CP materia aren't expensive on the MB and you can even get them from yellow scrip vendors. There is zero reason not to have your gear melded.

You can get more CP with Blood Bouillabaisse. It's easy to make (only lv79 recipe) and all its ingredients are obtainable by retainers.

I am well aware of that. I was just illustrating to the op my results without food or medicine
11-14-2019, 06:38 AM
Bonbori

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

I am well aware of that. I was just illustrating to the op my results without food or medicine

Ah, my bad n_n

I guess you're right. The OP's biggest problem is lack of materia and they should probably prioritise that. Food is a great way to maximise but its value is diminished if someone is undergeared in the first place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerLuke

If you want to go on the cheap use grade VI materia, the boost is similar and you have a 100% remove success rate

^
So much this. I was actually updating my alt's levelling gear yesterday and managed to find some VIs going for as low as 10-15k a piece.
11-14-2019, 07:29 AM
Meirii

/mlock
/ac Reflect <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>
/mlock
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.3>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
/echo Craft finished <se.1>

This is my rotation but I still can't max I need more cp
11-14-2019, 08:31 AM
Lethros

You could do the lower level items. They give less, but are made really fast in level 80 gear. 8 scrips for a highest rating level 40 craft. Reflect, one or two touches, one synthesis. The only real problem I've thought of after I've done a few thousand scrips with the level 40 item is that it's heavier on crystals. The reason I started with level 40 is that I only goldsmith and mine, and without buying materials the level 40 item is the highest level I can gather and make with just those two classes.

addition: just realized level 40 uses shards not crystals. Maybe more comparable to less crystal use?
11-14-2019, 09:08 AM
Burningskull

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonbori

Why do you not use materia?

Because I absolutely despise materia and If it was up to me it would be ripped out of the game. So a personal choice. I'm not expecting a 100% HQ rotation. Was just looking for something that would get me higher than my base understanding of what order to use the skills in would get me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nihility

if your only willing to put in minimum effort expect minimum reward out of it

Sounds like you should be doing the level 60 turn-ins rather than the 80 ones

I'm doing the lvl 70 ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meirii

/mlock
/ac Reflect <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>
/mlock
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.3>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
/echo Craft finished <se.1>

This is my rotation but I still can't max I need more cp

Thanks very much. I'll try this out :)
11-14-2019, 09:15 AM
FirstnameLastname

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burningskull

Because I absolutely despise materia and If it was up to me it would be ripped out of the game. So a personal choice.

Wait.. care to explain that?
11-14-2019, 09:59 AM
NessaWyvern

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

As a fully geared and melded crafter (2370/2339/541) I have found that I still need an additional 30 CP in order to turn in level 80 synths at the highest level using all NQ mats. Others may have different results.

Someone posted a rotation that works in the behemoth firmament shout chat, which gets me (not fully pentameld)
to almost max each time, so I get full pts.

Dude who did that, if you are reading this, thank you so godsdamned much :D
11-14-2019, 10:36 AM
BristolRuss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

As a fully geared and melded crafter (2370/2339/541) I have found that I still need an additional 30 CP in order to turn in level 80 synths at the highest level using all NQ mats. Others may have different results.

You should be easily able to get full collectability with those stats even with no food/medicine and all NQ mats. Try the following rotation.

/ac Reflect <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
/echo Craft finished <se.1>
11-14-2019, 11:35 AM
hydralus

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

Wait.. care to explain that?

I'd wager something along the lines of "I shouldn't have to deal with this".
11-14-2019, 12:09 PM
Mightion

My friend shared with me this macro for the 80 Ishgard stuff - I told them the goal was 60 durability but only needed to be over 3500 for collectibility:

/ac Reflect <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac Ingenuity <wait.2>
/ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>

It works fine for me;; even on one of my crafter's who doesn't have facet tools yet. Stats are 2238/2156/520, and this macro works with no food or syrup.
11-14-2019, 12:23 PM
Tomoebi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burningskull

Because I absolutely despise materia and If it was up to me it would be ripped out of the game. So a personal choice.

I too despise armor in this game, i prefer going into roulette with only pants on on the left side. i liek to challenge myself
11-14-2019, 12:28 PM
hydralus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mightion

Stats are 2238/2156/520, and this macro works with no food or syrup.

OP only has 400 CP to work with.
11-14-2019, 10:23 PM
Maero

No reason one should not use materia it is so easy to get. Anyhow..
For macros, gears and rotations i refer to https://www.xivcraftingguide.com/505-essentials

Granted i do not believe he has rotations for lower CP, but food may boost it so you are close
11-14-2019, 11:02 PM
StouterTaru

Stick to recipes 10+ levels below you:

Code:

/ac "Trained Eye" <wait.3> /ac "Name of the Elements" <wait.2> /ac "Brand of the Elements" <wait.3> /ac "Brand of the Elements" <wait.3> /ac "Brand of the Elements" <wait.3>
11-14-2019, 11:26 PM
LineageRazor

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

Wait.. care to explain that?

What's to explain? Materia is ridiculously annoying.

Nothing says "fun" like overmelding at a 7% success rate!

I mean, it's fair to say he should endure it if he wants to be a successful crafter, but I can definitely understand the desire to want it gone. Or, at least, overhauled.
11-15-2019, 12:22 AM
hydralus

Quote:

Originally Posted by LineageRazor

What's to explain? Materia is ridiculously annoying.

Nothing says "fun" like overmelding at a 7% success rate!

There are guaranteed slots on gear that have a 100% success rate. You can get around +80CP on your gear without worrying about RNG.
11-15-2019, 12:51 AM
WhiteArchmage

Plus, the lower grade materia you slot, the easier it is to overmeld. I keep around 30/40-ish Grade 3 CP materia just to finish up some gear that only accepts like 1 CP anyway. If you have the time, desire, and money to overmeld with full 8s and 7s, you're probably a hardcore crafter.