Late Allagan what?!?!?

Was anyone else unimpressed by SE's tank version of this armor from PvP other than me? The Melee all get AWESOME looking suits and Tanks get yet another bulky POS I'd rather see on a statue than wearing myself.. just my opinion, kinda frustrated SE gave us such meh looking armor for the Late Allagan,..

Each to their own, yet more reasons they should unlock role glams

Physical ranged DPS share our pain!

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Originally Posted by Seabhacgra

Was anyone else unimpressed by SE's tank version of this armor from PvP other than me? The Melee all get AWESOME looking suits and Tanks get yet another bulky POS I'd rather see on a statue than wearing myself.. just my opinion, kinda frustrated SE gave us such meh looking armor for the Late Allagan,..

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I Iike the new tank outfit. I play GNB, and when it's dyed blue, with ordinary boots and pants, you almost look like a galbadian soldier.

What I really don't like, is that Viera and Hrothgar can't wear the healer headgear.

Every time there is "Allagan" in any set name, you know it's gonna look like flaming gargabe.

I like my tanks to be sexy and stylish in armor, but most tank gear looks bulky and too big on a female Hyur, So when I saw the form fitting Late Allagan armour from PvP I was excited! then had my excitement deflated when I saw ONLY melee DPS could wear it,.. very disappointing indeed...

I was impressed, the head piece is visible on Hrothgar, and the whole set looks quite nice imo.

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Originally Posted by Seabhacgra

Was anyone else unimpressed by SE's tank version of this armor from PvP other than me? The Melee all get AWESOME looking suits and Tanks get yet another bulky POS I'd rather see on a statue than wearing myself.. just my opinion, kinda frustrated SE gave us such meh looking armor for the Late Allagan,..

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I mean...dude, we're Tanks. We're the role that is associated with bulky armor. Not sure why this is surprising. We're meant to be the Bulwarks of the game.

i like them all just not the tank and aiming helm should have just gotten the same visor as melee
Aiming set is very mass effect fitting i think

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Originally Posted by TheForce

I mean...dude, we're Tanks. We're the role that is associated with bulky armor. Not sure why this is surprising. We're meant to be the Bulwarks of the game.

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Doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't look good doing it :)

As J said in MIB,.. "You know the difference between you and me? I make this look good"

You do realize this set was actually based on a design made by a player who won a competition SE ran last year? Maybe SE shouldn't do 'design your own armour' competitions anymore then if this is the sort of criticism they get. No matter what Yoshi and his team does it's always wrong to someone.

And for what it's worth, I'm not a fan of the design of the Late Allag set in general but I do know people have been raving about this set so if the majority of players like it then that's what matters, as more glamour is always a good thing. :D

Rei Makoto put it best imo.

Maybe you don't like it, but personally I love having a Future Cop glam :D

https://i.ibb.co/421y5GK/Future-Cop.png

https://i.ibb.co/bNNhYP5/Future-Cop-In-Action.png

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

You do realize this set was actually based on a design made by a player who won a competition SE ran last year? Maybe SE shouldn't do 'design your own armour' competitions anymore then if this is the sort of criticism they get. No matter what Yoshi and his team does it's always wrong to someone.

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The design was actually a melee DPS only entry, everything else was SE design team decision. (announcement here)

Tank gear may look a bit clunky, but mostly ok in my opinion.
Melee gear is slick and very sexy. I m jealous.
Mage gear is also nice, because you can look like an operator or something.

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but WTF happened with RANGED? A slight modifaction of the melee gear would be so nice, but Ranges are the thin version of the tank gear. What am I? The heavy artillery robot?

Left is Melee, right is Ranged...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OUTwYB8uigc/maxresdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

but WTF happened with RANGED? A slight modifaction of the melee gear would be so nice, but Ranges are the thin version of the tank gear. What am I? The heavy artillery robot?

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My guess is that the Ranged set was originally going to be the Maiming version with the Maiming version being the originally intended Ranged version, but they realized that technically the contest was to design both Maiming and Striking gear.

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Originally Posted by ArianeEwah

Physical ranged DPS share our pain!

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Speak for yourself. I love the Late Allagan aiming set for my MCH. It matches my gun, and it's not a coat or some cowboy outfit.

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Originally Posted by Wolfelin

Maybe you don't like it, but personally I love having a Future Cop glam :D

https://i.ibb.co/421y5GK/Future-Cop.png

https://i.ibb.co/bNNhYP5/Future-Cop-In-Action.png

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What weapon is that ?

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

What weapon is that ?

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Deepshadow Manatrigger

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Originally Posted by ArianeEwah

Deepshadow Manatrigger

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Oh. Thanks. I never really looked at the Deepshadow weapon skins outside of the DRK and PLD ones. The GNB one looks pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

Oh. Thanks. I never really looked at the Deepshadow weapon skins outside of the DRK and PLD ones. The GNB one looks pretty cool.

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Look again. It's a hedge trimmer.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

You do realize this set was actually based on a design made by a player who won a competition SE ran last year? Maybe SE shouldn't do 'design your own armour' competitions anymore then if this is the sort of criticism they get. No matter what Yoshi and his team does it's always wrong to someone.

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That's not true. The player submitted design was specifically the sleek and fitted armor that the melee dps got. The bulky tank set being discussed was not designed by the player in the design competition.

It's understandable that people hoping for a similarly sleek design for the other roles would feel disappointed that, instead of embracing the aesthetic the player submitted design, SE decided to go with their usual 'bulky tanks, robed casters' aesthetic. Especially since the player design was based on such an iconic look (from the Metal Gear series). Personally I understand that SE likes to differentiate roles like this, though in this case I feel like it's a bit unimaginative.

All in all I think it's actually the 'armored longcoat' tails that really ruin the look for the tank set. I bet if the chest piece didn't have those random long tails added (which are pretty much antithetical to the spirit of the original design, which is obviously geared towards mobility), people would be a lot more ok with the Tank set having a more armored, hard-shelled look.

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Originally Posted by ReiMakoto

Each to their own, yet more reasons they should unlock role glams

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Striking, aka the contest image, is the only good one in my opinion. And unfortunately, like 99% of gear pieces, it's hard to mix and match parts with other gear so nothing looks right unless you have the complete set. I absolutely detest the tank top and for the life of me can't make a good DNC glam that only uses the gloves and boots.

Tank armor looks fine, if a bit too bulky (in the wrong places) on female chars. As for the aiming one? I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite armor on the Source.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

Look again. It's a hedge trimmer.

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But its a red, glowing, edgy hedge trimmer!

Saw the aiming piece and it made me giggle. I like the healing top, just wish It had sleeves instead of robotic arms

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

Saw the aiming piece and it made me giggle. I like the healing top, just wish It had sleeves instead of robotic arms

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I like the mage tops too! You can cover up the robot arms with long-sleeved handgear.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I like the mage tops too! You can cover up the robot arms with long-sleeved handgear.

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Exactly what I did just yesterday :)

I got the ranged physical and tank sets, they looked pretty cool, plus the healer and caster dps body pieces look cool as well, glad whoever sent this design in for the entry got picked cause it's a unique looking design for gear sets.

I like the set... except that the darn helm doesn't close when you toggle the visor and instead it... glows???? WTF? Why?

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Originally Posted by TheForce

I mean...dude, we're Tanks. We're the role that is associated with bulky armor. Not sure why this is surprising. We're meant to be the Bulwarks of the game.

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Tanks can have variety in how they are presented or defend. It's not always through bulky armour. Heck, look at GNB, its AF is not that bulky and it pretty much uses energy shields to defend itself rather than any kind of physical defense.

But other games, there also exist magic tanks who rely on magic and also evasion tanks. Both concepts already exist in the Final Fantasy universe, having played FFXI with Dancer, Ninja, Red Mage, Blue Mage and Thief tanks. Of course, its not this game, but should illustrate that there is a variety out there on what works for tank appeal.

At least glamour in this game is not limited by the game lore like in ESO or GW2.

There are soooo much more diverse glamour options in this game that no other game is even a competition, not even WoW since design there is strict and not too diverse either.
I really like this new pvp armour for tanks, it looks nice on tall elezen, but it looks good only as a set of all pieces together.

To each their own, at least on my miqo'te, it looks streamlined compared to most tank sets and I'm loving it.
This is the only tank set with plate armor that really works well with GNB IMO.

Links because I can't figure out how to make the spoiler box thing
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https://i.imgur.com/aexbipZ.png

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

At least glamour in this game is not limited by the game lore like in ESO or GW2.

There are soooo much more diverse glamour options in this game that no other game is even a competition, not even WoW since design there is strict and not too diverse either.
I really like this new pvp armour for tanks, it looks nice on tall elezen, but it looks good only as a set of all pieces together.

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Although we have more diverse options, an absolute inferior glamor system compared to WoW, hands down. And that is quite, unfortunate.

I do wish that us tanks could use the bodysuit version. Heck, I wish glamour restrictions would be removed on everything with the exception of mainhand/offhand items and artifact sets. But I don't think the tank set is 'bad.' It's just not as cool or sexy as the bodysuit.

Just a shame the aiming set shares it. I guess it fets well for MCH but for dancer I'd much prefer the bodysuit.

WoW's system is superior because you can unlock an item appearance and not have to keep it around in your storage or retainers etc to use it again. And considering you can have trouble with inventory space if you actually level all the jobs in FFXIV it would be a godsend here.

But FFXIV has its plusses. We get actual dyable gear instead of a few different hard coded recolors of sets like WoW does. And WoW generally has more restrictions when it comes to stuff like holiday items and the white/gray items in WoW that aren't trasnmogable. I find the role restrictions in FFXIV to be pretty much the same as WoW's cloth/leather/mail/plate breakout so they're about the same on that front except the melee dps are split into three different subsets here giving us seven subsets instead of five, or WoW's four.

I actually really like the tank late allagan set...

I would like to wear the aiming body piece on my tank. Maybe they'll look at "replica" late allagan glamours like they did with the Skyrat sets (ishgard restoration mats).