Bonus to multiclass parties?

One of the problems with FFXIV is that for endgame a full party of the same class sometimes can defeat everything. I was thinking about: why not give bonus to these partys who are not 6 warriors 2 healer, 8 BLM, TPburn, etc

why not to modify light and full party bonus to promote parties with diferent setups?

For example, if you have more than 3 BLM in your party, you lost your full party magic accuracy and magic potency bonus, and the same with full warriors party, etc.

whats to gain at endgame to bonus? xp?

We already get a bonus for parties.

I think they should take that bonus away if you have more than 3 of one class.

i would hope they award you a bonus for diversity actually. also it's always been a dream of mine, (somewhat unrelated maybe?) that they bring in class + class specific skill chain system. For instance Warrior WS + Gladiator WS = Cross Slash, ala Chrono Trigger.

Penalizing parties for class stacking isn't the way to go. You should be rewarded for some sort of diversity through party wide buffs (which already exist to some point, but not noticeable enough to matter).

I see a lot of posts about this so I think i'm going to step in. First of all I would like to note that the primary factor that leads to class stacking is the community taking the easiest way out always, and class stacking is easier to realize the potential since it's a simple strategy, whereas stuff that involves multiple classes might even be more efficient but requires more planning and better execution. But I digress, that is not my point in this post.

My point is thus, for people who want SE to do something against class stacking:

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We wanted to give everyone an update on battle regimens; once we have finalized the battle fixes and implemented jobs in patch 1.21, we will move forward with our plans to re-implement an optimized battle regimen system to go along with the battle system. Since combos have just recently been added, we will also be looking into the possibility of changing the battle regimen system.

Due to this, we are unable to provide any additional information or an implementation date, but we will be sure to let you know of any other information that comes our way.

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It's old, from January. They are, in fact, going to implement a, theoretically, less stupid Battle Regimen, system. Essentially, for those of you who joined the game after they were gone (like me), a multiple-character combo system, and if they build upon the basis of the existent Combo system, it will probably involve actions from different classes. Hopefully that should alleviate the 'problem' of class stacking.

whatever you want, just force me to bring diversity in my party. Hell, this is exactly why people open thread like this http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Warrior/page4

There's always been TP burns/Melee parties in every MMO... Players should be allowed to do what they want instead of being penalized/disadvantaged for it.

It's a worthy shot at trying to "fix" the party system, but IMHO it'll just make it worst.

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Originally Posted by Dakin

Penalizing parties for class stacking isn't the way to go. You should be rewarded for some sort of diversity through party wide buffs (which already exist to some point, but not noticeable enough to matter).

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So lets just keep adding buffs and bonuses to the game huh, why is it everyone always has their hand out for another treat.

Good boy !!

I agree with the job aura's suggestion. (passive ability at lvl 30)

Of course if we get Job Aura's they should remove strength in numbers and the 4 man version I forget what its called.

how about giving higher % of drops when you don't repeat a job more than once?
and for exping it could give an exp bonus

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Originally Posted by Doho

i would hope they award you a bonus for diversity actually. also it's always been a dream of mine, (somewhat unrelated maybe?) that they bring in class + class specific skill chain system. For instance Warrior WS + Gladiator WS = Cross Slash, ala Chrono Trigger.

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I think we've all been wanting this...

If only the dude who is doing the battle system in FFXIV was the same guy who directed and designed the battle system for Chrono trigger....
Oh wait... he is!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!
Doho, my friend... I am very excited to see what happens when BR comes back....

I think maybe they have been holding it back this far because they have BIG PLANS for it...

And yes... that would encourage multiclass play....
Good post

Class stacking is annoying alright but what really gets to me is the frequent class changing in dungeons.

I've seen parties go from blm to war to arc stacking in a single cutters cry run, and to me that seems very broken and I would like to see it being addressed.

Wither they completely limit class changing to inns and rooms (maybe we'll get new weapon types if that happened) or putting a timer on changing in instances or even completely locking it in dungeons if we're being extreme.

Maybe that'll help with class divirsty?

true party bonus = where party is 2 or less of each class. and increase in drop rates

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Square enix had a card game on facebook which might have useful mechanics that could work here.

Certain sets of four classes in a party give a bonus. Each party could have two of these effects active (4+4)


THM THM BLM BLM - "Dark Delight" Magic attack bonus + 5%
WHM WHM CON CON - "Holy Hand Grenade" Healing magic potency +5%
PLD WAR DRG MNK - "In the heat of battle" Evasion & Magic evasion + 5%
WAR WAR DRG MNK - "Heavy Hitters" Crit attack bonus +10%
DRG DRG MNK MNK - "Pain is the game" Attack power + 5%


Anyway, you get the idea.

Promotes different setups because there is no bonus for 3 or 4 of the same job/class. It also promotes the use of classes and jobs together.

Edit: As Indira said, it gives "two or less" of each class in a party a bonus.

One word: Incapacitation.

FFXIII as an example. Sooo I'm not allowed to make my party full of ravagers?
FFXII as an example. You mean I'm not allowed to make everyone get the same licenses and gambits?
FFXI as an example. Its cheating that we're allowed to do summoner burn, whereas EXPing took forever?
FFX as an example. So I'm not allowed to max my sphere grid and make everyone do the same damage?

If you don't get the point I'm making its this:
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. Having a full party of mages may very well not work out, its up to you. WHY do you care if someone else plays like that, just do you.

The reward for diverisity is supposed to be perfect formation.

how about a penalty such as a NM building resistance to a certain weapon/magic damage type.

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Originally Posted by Pallaton

how about a penalty such as a NM building resistance to a certain weapon/magic damage type.

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I'd also like to see more emphasis on Blunt vs slashing v piercing

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

Square enix had a card game on facebook which might have useful mechanics that could work here.

Certain sets of four classes in a party give a bonus. Each party could have two of these effects active (4+4)


THM THM BLM BLM - "Dark Delight" Magic attack bonus + 5%
WHM WHM CON CON - "Holy Hand Grenade" Healing magic potency +5%
PLD WAR DRG MNK - "In the heat of battle" Evasion & Magic evasion + 5%
WAR WAR DRG MNK - "Heavy Hitters" Crit attack bonus +10%
DRG DRG MNK MNK - "Pain is the game" Attack power + 5%


Anyway, you get the idea.

Promotes different setups because there is no bonus for 3 or 4 of the same job/class. It also promotes the use of classes and jobs together.

Edit: As Indira said, it gives "two or less" of each class in a party a bonus.

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Thought this is quite interesting as well.

Skillchains between diferents weapons seems too a good way. Anyway, is not posible right now, monsters have not enough HP to play with skillchains.

<yes, please> I've been of this sentiment for a while that there should be a bonus for every different class included (obviously you wont get 2x for having more than one of the same class)

I really like to plan to maximize my EXP. I don't think that acc or atk bonus would be enough to level the difference with burn parties, so IMO it should directly affect the EXP. Hence an EXP bonus.

Skillchains between jobs would be realy cool. Thats how ffxi was