agro agro ....

Hello everyone

When you see your party mate saying "agro", you know he need raise soon. lol

When mob agro you @ FFXI, you are about to die. especially at low lvls. Some jobs can survive ..

If you got agro, the ppl will tell you "Do your best, don't die" !!! no way, they'll tell you "Die somewhere safe so we could raise you"

You can't risk your EXP and go explorer high lvl zones. You'll wait till you get your chance to explore it safely.

This and all other unforgettable memories remind you "FFXI mobs DO NOT joke"

Myself, I'm missing that feeling ...

What you all think?

Miss that feeling as well. The world feels tame and boring in the state it is in atm.

I miss the feeling of exploring. You have the map for everywhere automatically in FFXIV. Not to mention certain areas YOU KNOW to absolutely avoid at all costs or you'll get your ass beaten up by mobs.

FFXIV it's more like...walk around a bit...and you've seen all the mobs out there. No matter which new region you explore.

There were a couple of cool moments in FFXIV. Trying to get through a bottle neck of diremites and someone saying, "Insects aggro sound in 11, right? Lets just try WALKING through them. Maybe that will work." And the first time I played ping-pong off the ass end of twelve peists trying to get to a lake so I could find out what grade it was. And... Right. That's about it. Once you've done it once, you've done it.

With XI, there was a continuous feeling of OMFG I'M GONNA DIE. At least, that's what it seems like in comparison, now. Even with sneak/invis I can't count the number of times where I was praying, just praying that it wouldn't wear off until I could... just... get around... THAT corner... Right over... DEAD.

Dare I say it... I do... maybe if death actually MEANT something in this game...

EDIT: I think, for me at least, the biggest issue is that in 11, I rarely felt like I could just stop, and wait for the mobs to make room for me to pass through. You never knew what was behind you, and it could pop out and eat you at a moment's notice. You had to keep on the go, and that meant dealing with what was in front of you. In 14, it seems like that is lost. I know where everything is around me at all times. I have a nifty map that has more detail than I need, and I have a nice little radar that shows every mob and whether or not it is in my FOV.

i miss sneak and invisible! XD i remember exploring zi tah for the first time with my rdm friend when i was a 20rdm. it was absolutely awe inspiring! the atmosphere the music the mobs that dropped all those yummy dark crystals XD and i promised as soon as i hit 40 i was going to get my tail back there and really explore all the nukes and crannies there were to offer. in 14 i still find myself doing the same thing. i love each of the areas, but it is true. the mobs seem somewhat copy pasted and re-dyed. i know in certain cases thats not the case in some of the more dangerous areas you can find some MEAN little monsters but once you've seen one colybrn, you've seen them all. same can be said for alot of the other mobs. maybe later with expanded content we can find more diversity in our growing erozea but until then i'm happy exploring one area after another. btw...if any alchemists have discovered the recipe for snk and inv.....

I miss using Sneak and Invisible or the potion alternatives to explore places i have no business being in, now on FF14 dying has no consequences other than going back to your last aetheryte or node and being weakened for 3 minutes, i don't miss the exp loss though lol

Would add that feeling of exploring if SE implemented a "fog" on the map, need explore to unlock the section of map. Will help people with the feeling of adventure giving the need to explore. to find new parts. little mystery goes along way... for some at least. few hidden monsters. like the Chigoes *sp run by them. then OMG.. crap.. next time through.. you are little most conscious where u travel.

lol yeah. was my favorite thing to do XD i was so spoilt in 11.

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Originally Posted by Kaminto

I miss using Sneak and Invisible or the potion alternatives to explore places i have no business being in, now on FF14 dying has no consequences other than going back to your last aetheryte or node and being weakened for 3 minutes, i don't miss the exp loss though lol

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I don't miss XP loss, that's for sure. But I -do- miss the fact that I REALLY didn't want to die in 11. How many of us would get aggro in 11 and KNOW we weren't going to make it to the zone line? How many of us mages prayed that stoneskin wouldn't get interrupted so we could try anyhow? How many of agonized over whether to stop long enough to cast a cure, a regen, or a blink, instead of just going? How many of us knew we would aggro half the wights running from Pug Alley to the tower and did it anyhow? How many of us bowed down and kissed the feet of some crafter farming elementals after they snagged the wight with a dia or a 'voke?

I miss a lot of things, this game is holds your hand and babysits you so damn much it annoys me. Its removed so much that I could of figured out on my own that I cant turn around and say I miss anything in it, If i started a sentence with "do you remember in XIV when ..." it would end there, there's nothing to fking remember.

LOOOL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE XDDDD

or how about asking the upper level players in your ls if they could come raise you cause yeah making that zone so didn't work XD

Mmm. Running through the jungle on my way to the Cauldron or the Temple and forgetting to go /anon as a 75 whm. /tell central.

LAWL @ origamikitsune all the memories come flooding back. good times

I just remember when some people would run all the goblins in the zone to mandy camp in yhoator jungle, then all the parties exping would team up on them .Ahh the memories.Good times.

This is what happens when a game tries to cater to the casual/wow crowd.

Luckily it only tried a bit and it's not wow 2.0 (Rift).

That is one of the things I miss the most in FFXIV. FFXI aggro system. And that sense of exploring and fear.
I would be terrified of the mobs XD
How I remember being chased down by goblins xD

I think they should implement an option in FFXIV to let you hide the mobs from the minimap :D
And that fog in the map would be nice too.

well let's see i remember dying many times in xiv dying trying to get to mor dhona. tryin to get to blue fog just to turn in a r5 leve with a r11 main. trying to get to bronze lake. there is not enough of this, but there is some. to say there is not any is just not doing true exploration.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

well let's see i remember dying many times in xiv dying trying to get to mor dhona. tryin to get to blue fog just to turn in a r5 leve with a r11 main. trying to get to bronze lake. there is not enough of this, but there is some. to say there is not any is just not doing true exploration.

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I did a couple of times XD In Mor Dhona, getting to Broken Water, exploring Thanalan to get to the hidden Temple of Thal. And of course, in coerthas trying to get too far XD
But, if you did play FFXI, you should know that the feeling you get is a little different.

I love FFXIV. I really do. And I only played FFXI a couple of months, not year, so I'm really not one of those "WHY ISNT THIS LIKE FFXI" but this feature I do miss.

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Originally Posted by SirEdeonX

I did a couple of times XD In Mor Dhona, getting to Broken Water, exploring Thanalan to get to the hidden Temple of Thal. And of course, in coerthas trying to get too far XD
But, if you did play FFXI, you should know that the feeling you get is a little different.

I love FFXIV. I really do. And I only played FFXI a couple of months, not year, so I'm really not one of those "WHY ISNT THIS LIKE FFXI" but this feature I do miss.

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yes, the feeling was different. to me the difference was there was this type of adventure all over, but that's also why i said this game has nowhere enough of this. it is not fun to me to be able to just go wherever i want when i want. i want some sort of adventure with more of these mobs that cam pop is anywhere in the world. there also needs to be more of these hard to get to areas where you have to work hard to get to and not allowed to just port into.

That's exactly what I was saying in one of my post in ZAM.

Eorzea is too peaceful, you can roam almost everywhere event at rank 10. If you get aggro, if not one shot you can escape and with the new aggro icon it’s ridiculously easier getting around.

I want to feel the adrenaline of my first hours in Valkurm Dunes or my first 3hr30 trip to jeuno with no map and many many more.

I’m a lv 37 miner and I died twice during all that time and from the same nm, the goat nm introduce recently in Nophica’s Wells. That alone says a lot.
Eorzea is too peaceful there supposed to be a war going on, Where is it, where are those beastmen? We need more of those, more death, more screaming = more fun, more story to tell and cry/laugh about!

That’s what MMO should be all about.

There is no real excitement when it comes to trying to survive in my opinion because theres no penalty to death. It really makes it so people, or atleast myself, am not very careful or mindful when it comes to running around or setting auto run in a straight line for the mining or camp node and alt tabbing for 30 seconds or so.

They did say they are doing something in regards to death penalties in one of the interviews or producer letters I believe it was. He said something like "We can't have adventurers just killing themselves all around the towns and camps for a quick teleport."

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Originally Posted by Armageddon

I want to feel the adrenaline of my first hours in Valkurm Dunes or my first 3hr30 trip to jeuno with no map and many many more.

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That's what I remember the most XD OH man, it was so much fun lol

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Originally Posted by Armageddon

I want to feel the adrenaline of my .... first 3hr30 trip to jeuno with no map

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/l How do I get to Juno?
Linkshell: Just follow the road.
/l Is anything going to eat me?
Linkshell: It's safe. Just assume everything aggros and dodge it.
/l Ok!
(Screen shakes)
/l Uh guys.... why is the screen shaking?
Linkshell: Oh, and the NM. Giant sheep goat thing. You might want to avoid that.
/l ... Can I get a raise? And an escort?