Can pvp mentor...Actually require pvp?

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10-04-2019, 04:03 AM
Shinklet

Can pvp mentor...Actually require pvp?

Seems a bit dumb that you can become a pvp mentor, with/without the changes and you don't even need to step into pvp.

I get that the devs think of pvp community as an after thought, which is hwy we get stuck with the same S tier jobs for 2 years and get less than 2 notable balance changes among this time.

But can pvp mentor require pvp?

Maybe just something simple like hitting Diamond tier+300 games in ranked.

and/or

a few hundred games of FL/RW?

it's pretty dumb that people like me have hit top 10/multiple diamonds/multiple to 100s

And we can't even answer questions about pvp to new players.
10-04-2019, 05:10 AM
BloodRubyXII

Nope, hence why I answer PvP questions in NN but won't be seen dead with the PvP crown anymore because it's pointless (tbh like all the other crowns).

What's funny is it's 1000 dungeons/trials/raids required, but not those + feast/fold (as it's merged with feast count now)/frontlines. The memeing here by SE is unreal.
10-04-2019, 06:17 AM
Nalien

Delete PvP Mentor.

Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.
10-04-2019, 10:35 PM
Shinklet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalien

Delete PvP Mentor.

Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.

I like the sound of this but people are already jealous enough of pvp rewards, wouldn't want to antagonise them further or the crying will get louder.
10-05-2019, 03:00 AM
Nalien

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Originally Posted by Shinklet

I like the sound of this but people are already jealous enough of pvp rewards, wouldn't want to antagonise them further or the crying will get louder.

I'd say anyone who is going to cry about their inability to obtain an icon next to their name deserves to be laughed at to the upmost degree. A mount I can understand, since at the end of the day XIV is a mount collect-a-thon game, but an icon next to your name? Anyone who complains about that deserves to be laughed at and ignored. Let the man babies throw their temper tantrums.

Biggest flaw I can see is that, as a replacement for the PvP Mentor system, it entirely ignores the majority of PvP and is really just an added Feast reward. The skills are largely transferable, so one has to assume a Diamond Wolf has some idea how to play PvP, but Diamond Wolf =/= knowing what times the nodes spawn in Secure, for example. Still, as a mentor system it's leagues better than what we currently have for PvP. Mixing Bronze to Diamond ranks into it to add levels of seniority to PvP Mentors is honestly something they should do to regular Mentors, in fact. it would also be hilarious to me to see Mentor status have rank decay before Feast

Honestly though, the Mentor system is pretty broken and horrid in its own right, and I don't think the Novice Network is really a worthwhile place for any PvP related questions just because of how bad the community in this game is in general. Nice idea, absolutely garbage implementation, even if (like SE) we ignore PvP. We'd be better off aiming for something like an official PvP Learning Fellowship that players are prompted to join in the PvP Profile/when unlocking PvP or something. That would put players in contact with experienced PvPers all the same, and can easily be used to point towards guides/etc. Things like the Questionnaire could even be used by SE to gather feedback, in general it could be used to highlight community team PvP streams, etc. That's all extra work for SE though, so I'll just laugh that notion right out of my head.
10-05-2019, 03:48 AM
Crit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalien

Delete PvP Mentor.

Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.

Guild wars 2 does that, very cool

Don't expect it to be well received in this specific community xddd
10-05-2019, 06:41 AM
BloodRubyXII

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalien

Delete PvP Mentor.

Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.

People don't even understand the Wolf tier titles.
10-05-2019, 06:32 PM
Araxes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalien

Delete PvP Mentor.

Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.

Dont forget the Hunterwolf emblem, the Betawolf and the leader of the pack emblem.

But yeah, i did suggest once that pvp Mentor should require Top 100 title/placement, people found that very funny.
10-05-2019, 09:02 PM
BloodRubyXII

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Originally Posted by Araxes

Dont forget the Hunterwolf emblem, the Betawolf and the leader of the pack emblem.

But yeah, i did suggest once that pvp Mentor should require Top 100 title/placement, people found that very funny.

For as long as it falls under the Battle Mentor umbrella, no chance.
10-07-2019, 10:48 AM
Shadygrove

There is a PvP mentor status?

I had no idea.

I'm crafting / gathering mentor.
10-07-2019, 06:42 PM
Lambdafish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalien

Delete PvP Mentor.

Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.

I would combine the two ideas and tie the PVP mentor crown to diamond, that way you have the status of Bronze Rank/Silver Rank/Gold Rank/Diamond Rank/Veteran (unlocked with Diamond). The simple difference between Diamond and Veteran would be the design of the icon, with the Veteran icon being unified with the rest of the mentor crowns. The reason for this is that it differentiates a player who wants to be a mentor from one who wants to show off their rank. Not every diamond player will want to help novices, and players might feel intimidated simply asking advice from a "Diamond tier player"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadygrove

There is a PvP mentor status?

Not yet, planned for 5.1
10-07-2019, 09:07 PM
Nanne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadygrove

There is a PvP mentor status?

I had no idea.

I'm crafting / gathering mentor.

The icon for PvP mentor is a normal mentor crown that has a tiny flag symbol beneath it.
10-12-2019, 09:55 AM
hynaku

Wow so don't have to do any pvp to become a pvp mentor.
10-12-2019, 10:26 AM
Praesul

If there were strict requirements for pvp mentor, there'd only be like, 2 or 3 willing mentors in the entire game. : )
10-12-2019, 12:56 PM
BloodRubyXII

Quote:

Originally Posted by hynaku

Wow so don't have to do any pvp to become a pvp mentor.

No, but no-one ever sets their status to PvP mentor anyway lol.
10-19-2019, 05:18 PM
Shinklet

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Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII

No, but no-one ever sets their status to PvP mentor anyway lol.

a few of us do on spriggan, occasionally there's a question we don't leave to the other 'mentors' to answer.
10-19-2019, 07:30 PM
Commander_Justitia

The most question you will get is people wondering what the white flag over the crown means
10-19-2019, 08:25 PM
BloodRubyXII

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

The most question you will get is people wondering what the white flag over the crown means

Cheese eating surrender monkey.
10-21-2019, 01:09 AM
hynaku

Wow if no one uses pvp crown I should start using it.
10-21-2019, 04:12 AM
Crit

Quote:

Originally Posted by hynaku

Wow if no one uses pvp crown I should start using it.

and you'd educate the lot to switch to maelstrom because ALL the good pvpers are there to carry! you'd also educate people on feast fundamentals and insight on the meta too!

10/10 mentor plis use the crown kind sir