Where's the Bard?

I was in my very 1st party on FF14 last night as a 36 monk. Had a couple archers in party and since I was using Fists of Fire I asked in party chat if I could get a Song of the Magi to help my MP runout. I get a reply that no one is playing bard and bard is dangerous to play. Is this how its going to be?

Sounds like they don't know bard very well.

Songs can pull a lot of hate but it just sounds like someone making excuses.

If you're grinding on normal enemies you can just buff between battles.

I don't think I've pulled hate off for Ballad of the Magi or Poena (sp?)

I also think those archers haven't unlocked bard.yet.

Sounds like foolishness to me! Also sounds like those bards suck.

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Originally Posted by Ticks

I was in my very 1st party on FF14 last night as a 36 monk. Had a couple archers in party and since I was using Fists of Fire I asked in party chat if I could get a Song of the Magi to help my MP runout. I get a reply that no one is playing bard and bard is dangerous to play. Is this how its going to be?

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maybe they weren't playing bard cause they only had 1 or 2 songs and didnt wanna sacrifice their cross class skills.

BRD gets to keep cure/raises so I don't see why it's more dangerous. If it was one of the classes that lost Raise on their Job then I'd understand.

Definitely don't understand this.

As far as I was aware, BRD's are currently sought after for the dungeon runs (new and old), and have been extremely useful. In the Aurum Vale / Cutter's Pass parties I've been in so far, I haven't seen any significant hate issues, and I've been recasting when timer runs down and still putting out reasonable damage (according to other members in the group who have been parsing fights). As long as you don't go silly (which tbh, can apply to most damage classes), chameleon works a charm and keeps hate at a minimum - especially if you have trigger happy blm/thm's in the party :p

Songs pull hate if you cast them on somebody who has aggroed linked mobs with no enmity built.

Same goes for cures and enhancements.

Bards solve the apparent MP crisis for the BLM/THM
Bards keep your TP high for constant WS
Bards keep your accuracy up, always good to have unless your a fient whore :P
Bards have access to stoneskin combined with sacred prism these should like always be on cooldown.
Bards should be built with SOME healing potency, as it will bolster your cures as a support
And while your doing that your main target should be on the enemy your trying to kill because you can still do damage too.

Long story short. Bard is amazing eff whatcha hurd.

The only difficult part is. You need to communicate with your team on whos geting buffs.
Bards songs are mutually exclusive but if you group your party right you can get magi on mages and paeon on your frontlines.

I think I need to setup up macros about when I'm about to use the TP song (so mages don't run close and lose their MP song).

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

Songs pull hate if you cast them on somebody who has aggroed linked mobs with no enmity built.

Same goes for cures and enhancements.

Bards solve the apparent MP crisis for the BLM/THM
Bards keep your TP high for constant WS
Bards keep your accuracy up, always good to have unless your a fient whore :P
Bards have access to stoneskin combined with sacred prism these should like always be on cooldown.
Bards should be built with SOME healing potency, as it will bolster your cures as a support
And while your doing that your main target should be on the enemy your trying to kill because you can still do damage too.

Long story short. Bard is amazing eff whatcha hurd.

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As a new player who's first job is 50 bard as of a few days ago: May I ask what I could look into for boosting that particular aspect? I'm still trying to figure the way stats work since I'm a transplant from 11. Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks ahead of time

...they said bard is dangerous to play?

Gonna go cry in that corner over there.