4TH Healer Suggestion (Alchemist)

Now before i get into this i know this has been suggested a few times but personally i would love for it to be the 4th healer and hope more light is shed on this. In Final Fantasy Tactics you had Alchemist's that could throw potions to heal/revive players. Why can't we do this in FFXIV? I would love to see an actual combat Alchemist job that is a healer that can throw different potions to heal or revive players. They could also have skills that could buff party members etc. Their weapon could be a beaker and flask kinda like how Red Mage has the sword and floating crystal. The cast animation could be them pouring something out of the flask into the beaker then throwing the beaker at said player for heals. I don't know but i would very much love this.

Another example of an alchemist class would be Ragnarok Online but without the pet.

I’d love this sort of theme for a healer. The only real hiccup would be that we already have alchemist as a crafting class. That’s why I kinda hope we get a chemist. It could share a lot of the same themes without duplicating classes.

They could do something like they did with Arcanist branching off into Scholar and Summoner. Or yes, just name it Chemist.

The class would have to be renamed to Chemist or Salve-Maker but I would rather see Necromancer or Geomancer personally.

It would help break up the aesthetic

It could have a deep potions system (with many combinations) as the old cards system of AST, if only.

I need this in my life.

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Originally Posted by Ceasaria

It could have a deep potions system (with many combinations) as the old cards system of AST, if only.

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That could be nice, or something like Ninja's mudra. Different combinations for different effects.

I’d also love to see a class like this. They could differentiate from Alchemist by having some sort of external medium between the user and the potions. Like a ‘magic bag’ that manipulates the aetherial content of a flask to generate different ‘spell effects’. For naming, there’s a few options they could go with to have it give the same impression without feeling like a copy of Alchemist, like Chemist, Chirurgeon, Salve-Maker, Itemist or Itemancer or something magic sounding like that lol (Item Mage?)

They could channel ‘chemists’ from previous games by having it utilise a ‘Mix’ type ability that generates different support spells depending on the aether combination, like Turtle Shell to increase defense or Bacchus Wine to increase attack. Its damage dealing flasks could turn into components for debuffing enemies in skmw wag. Maybe Mix could be a GCD skill that turns certain heal spells into the components for mixing. So the chemist would be using the aesthetically manipulated flasks for healing then Mix them for the support effects during downtime. One of the buff combinations could be a 'poison' type item that inflicts damage over time, giving them an extra DoT for damage uptime while Mixing (depending on how long it takes)

Also personal opinion but I’d prefer if a Chemist type job didn’t use some kind of giant cannon or grenade launcher. That kind of thing feels more like it should be for Machinist to me. If it’s a healer job, it kinda has to be a caster anyway, so I think something a bit more ‘magical’ would make more sense. I think the idea of a magic bag with would be pretty cool. They could make it pretty comical with things like slapping an enemy with it for auto-attack or pulling things out if that never could have fit in the first place. A magic bag would be an easy way to explain how the Chemist has an infinite amount of flasks to throw at the party/enemies lol. That’s just personal preference of course.

I don't who posted it on another forum post but someone had suggested calling them a Medicus and having them be from Garlemald since they'd be using chemistry instead of magic.

This is the kind of healer I'd like to see too. Silver lining to Dancer ending up as a DPS... as it was such a popularly requested job... there's a chance way may actually get this.

Personally I want to see the chemist with a gun myself, like the ffx-2 and ff tactics versions. I often play around with the idea of a gun that either shoots chemical darts like Overwatch's Ana, or does some mumbo jumbo stuff with your aether to make the chemicals you utilize, or even both.

Like their "cast animation" for their heals can be them inserting a vial into the side of the gun, "filling" it with the desired potion, and tossing said vial at an ally. Or even just have them pull the potions out of hammer space and toss them, while their attack spells are different chemical rounds they shoot at the enemy. They can even get a level 1 trait that makes their auto attacks scale with mind and instant attacks, albeit at lower potency to accommodate the fact they have a ranged auto (Although if they insist on cast times, they can just have the chemist aiming and firing like mch did in 3.0)

I just want a healer with an actual weapon myself lol. Even if it's just white mage with non magic-looking animations.

While I'm not saying they wont add Chemist/Salve-maker in the future, they'd have to figure out the Mix system. They weren't able to get it the way they envisioned, and that's why it was reworked as AST. Just think we could of had a Chemist since HW, T.T

I feel that chemist should definitely be considered. it's one of the original healers of the series, and was one of the few jobs that could compete with WHM healing power.

The most popular chemist of the series is rikku so I definitely think the job should be inspired by her, maybe give us the claw weapons she use with hooks that shoot out?

As a former alchemist main in Ragnarok Online, I fully approve. :)

Also, that class had Cart Cannon, where you morphed your little supply cart into a magitek phaser. I want to see that!

I would just like to throw potions at people and see an animation of that person getting hit in the head. That would make my day and instant new main!

I totally approve. Also, the gun as weapon is not a bad idea.

I would like to see channel healing in this game - something that is a norm on other MMORPG, but I hardly see one in FF universe (except Fairy's fey union). Basically, you shoot a stream of healing liquid to the target which acts like a high potency healing over time.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

While I'm not saying they wont add Chemist/Salve-maker in the future, they'd have to figure out the Mix system. They weren't able to get it the way they envisioned, and that's why it was reworked as AST. Just think we could of had a Chemist since HW, T.T

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They did say they considered it back then, but my impression wasn't that they didn't go with chemist because they couldn't figure it out.

And anyways, we all know what a problem AST has been on a fundamental level when it overlaps so much with WHM. Regardless of the extra system bolted on besides its heals. Hopefully SE has learned from that, and will avoid the same fundamental mistakes.

It would also be interesting if they had a moveset similar to dancer - in that Dancer you have to hit certain steps to get the proper buff, for this new class you would have to hit a series of potion making abilities that trigger off of a certain move (i.e. Dancer's Standard Step) and if you don't make the potion correctly it could have positive, negative, or uncertain affects upon use. You could choose to chunk the whole potion which would waste healing output or use it and see what happens.

I also want alchemist healer which use potion as healing method, but i also suggest that their healing style will focus to regen, i know that for now WHM has the most powerful regen spells out of all 3 healer, but that not enough

let see what if alchemist has stackable regen as a main heal spell, you cast that spell like 4 or 5 time on target, each time will give them a buff stack and increase healing power, you can also has some instance heal spell but they are only for emergency situation, that healer will need sometime for their healing to wind up first but once it set, you can have more time to DPS, even better if their DPS focus on DOT spell, which will fit nicely with their healing style