Being a Mentor... (Rant)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...xpected-really

Lol...was I stupid back then or what...I really should have taken that first response to heart. I mean, what the hell was I thinking?? The naivety of me knows no bounds sometimes lol

Now I know what it feels like to get treated like crap almost every time I get something wrong, having an off day or for not knowing every tiny spectacle of Eorzea.

I'd rather have the option to have my sprout again; at least then I got treated like a human being and not some malfunctioning robot that gets tossed up, down, side to side, round and round touch the ground.

Even in my own network, I say hello and volunteer my services and conversations immediately comes to a halt, as if I just shot someones dog or something or showed up at a spot where I don't belong.

Oh well..I'll still help when I can but it just seems like it's open season on mentors all of a sudden and I've about reached my limit. It could be burnout factoring into this as well but it's not fun getting crapped on in a game I'm supposed to be relaxing and enjoying all because of an icon next to my name. At least now I can be like every one else and sort of just blend in and not get stigmas attached to me because of a stupid icon that so happens to be a crown.

TLDR: I'll still help when I can but you can have your crown back. I'm good. :D

Sorry to hear your experience with the program went that way. I hear stories about some NN on other servers.... Guess I happened to luck out with mine as its more of a chatroom for sprouts and mentors until someone actually needs help then we offer it.

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

Even in my own network, I say hello and volunteer my services and conversations immediately comes to a halt, as if I just shot someones dog or something or showed up at a spot where I don't belong.

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People aren't waiting around for a mentor to ask them if they need help, so chances are no one needs help at that time. Just keep the network chat active and answer questions or offer to help with stuff when people ask for it.

... so turn off the crown?

Wait, so when you go into the NN, people ignore your help?
I notice in Balmung our NN is just random chatter and not many need help.
Just a few Q's here and there.
You can help me level if you want though! DPS Q's are a pain.
In return, you get a hug for your service. :eek:

There's probably better chance people stop talking in the Novice Network when you offer help because they're trying to be polite and not talk over someone who might want to ask a question.

I'm tellin' ya, crown to watering can. Watch the quality improve. Or just add a GM to pop in and out of the chat. Watch the banning go down live.

I've been a mentor since its inception and not once have I been treated badly for it. I've heard bad stories about Balmung's NN though.

Not to say I told ya so but...

Just turn off the crown and still be helpful. You don’t need it showing to help or view NN. But not having it showing can cut out the anti mentor attitude some have. Covert mentorship, sneaky sneaky ;)

I'll say what i said the last time and even add a suggestion.
Remove the mentor system and add a help/global chat.
As for icons how about this.

PvE: Complete all the available raids/trials in all dificulties.
PvP: Achieve Diamond rank at the feast at the end of season.
Gathering/Crafting: Have all craft/gather profs at 80 with X% of recipes crafted/materials gathered.
Master: All of the above. who , ending in top ranks in pvp or having.

That way having an icon actually means something instead of the current joke of a system mentoring is.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

I've been a mentor since its inception and not once have I been treated badly for it. I've heard bad stories about Balmung's NN though.

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For the most part our network is super chatty and friendly. There's some drama from time to time, but not so much that I could see it being considered a lot or even above average.

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Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy

Now I know what it feels like to get treated like crap almost every time I get something wrong, having an off day or for not knowing every tiny spectacle of Eorzea.

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I'm a mentor and I don't know every tiny spectacle of Eorzea lol. Whenever I need to know something, I just look it up. Because that's basically what mentors are good for now. Looking up things for those that don't wanna bother doing so and want someone to tell them what to do (not talking about the ones that enjoy exploring things first time or those that learn by trying).

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

For the most part our network is super chatty and friendly. There's some drama from time to time, but not so much that I could see it being considered a lot or even above average.

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My favorite drama was when last week (in the Siren NN) someone kicked another mentor, and mentors then proceeded to argue & kick each other over the kick. I believe it was a revenge kick, followed by a revenge revenge kick.

Novice Network needs to be closed - people can just join linkshells if they want to chat. The mentor system needs to be scrapped. Something more simple should be put in place.

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Originally Posted by Hash_Browns

My favorite drama was when last week (in the Siren NN) someone kicked another mentor, and mentors then proceeded to argue & kick each other over the kick. I believe it was a revenge kick, followed by a revenge revenge kick.

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I wish I had Mentors to help or just shoot the breeze. I have no idea what the heck I'm doing in crafting.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Novice Network needs to be closed - people can just join linkshells if they want to chat. The mentor system needs to be scrapped. Something more simple should be put in place.

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Novice Network seems to be working as intended on a World by World basis. Probably 100% in Japan.

Maybe if they make the requirements a lot harder and change the icon from a burger king crown to something else then there would be less people making fun of mentors

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Originally Posted by MPK

Maybe if they make the requirements a lot harder and change the icon from a burger king crown to something else then there would be less people making fun of mentors

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I wouldn't say making fun of. People find reasons to be offended/laugh at anything. I've been told to get off my high horse for wanting to keep the chat PG-13... in a T for Teen game with a ToS that covers that kind of language.

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Originally Posted by Gula

I wouldn't say making fun of. People find reasons to be offended/laugh at anything. I've been told to get off my high horse for wanting to keep the chat PG-13... in a T for Teen game with a ToS that covers that kind of language.

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It's to bad they don't know that the chat actually needs to be PG, they can be banned for "profanity". You were just looking out for them!

There's a lot of mentor hate out there but mostly on forums, reddit, and 4chan. I never witness any mentor hate in game, and I keep my crown on at all times.

The worst part abut being a mentor for me is that I generally can't even get into Novice Network until 11PM HST because of how overcrowded it is with people who don't even use it.

if you play on toxic server, stop turning your mentor icon on manually everytime you log in.

I never saw the point in using the Mentor system.

You don't need the crown to help people if you really want to. Just get out there and do it xD

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Originally Posted by RyuSaarva

if you play on toxic server, stop turning your mentor icon on manually everytime you log in.

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What kind of mentality even is this?