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08-21-2019, 03:37 PM
Krojack

Login Queues

I feel like these are a lie. At peek hours it's like 30. At dead hours (5/6 AM) it's like 10. I have a hard time believing these are still needed.

P.S. It's most likely bots. I never seen bots this bad in all my time playing this game.
08-21-2019, 03:42 PM
Mhaeric

It's a forced log-in queue to help keep traffic flowing smoothly. I suspect it will likely go away in a patch or two. Even if it doesn't, whatever they did this expansion to keep log in queues so low even from day one worked and I'm more than happy to have to sit through at most a 30 second log in screen if that's what it took.
08-21-2019, 03:44 PM
Vesuvia34

I agree with you on the bots situation. The worlds that have these queues seem so empty when you are playing, and then you'll see the random group of bots flying in the air, or underground. I couldn't make an alt on Coeurl cause the bots were going in and out of a quest MSQ section and I couldn't proceed. They were there for over an hour. I've noticed it mostly on Crystal it's really bad, but even on Aether. I hope they do something about it :( Normally I never noticed until I couldn't proceed in MSQ.
08-21-2019, 03:48 PM
Tint

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Originally Posted by Krojack

I feel like these are a lie.

Sometimes they are and you can just cancel the queue and then log in directly. But it doesn't always work, sometimes the queue is real.
08-21-2019, 03:49 PM
CorbinDallas

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Originally Posted by Vesuvia34

I agree with you on the bots situation. The worlds that have these queues seem so empty when you are playing, and then you'll see the random group of bots flying in the air, or underground. I couldn't make an alt on Coeurl cause the bots were going in and out of a quest MSQ section and I couldn't proceed. They were there for over an hour. I've noticed it mostly on Crystal it's really bad, but even on Aether. I hope they do something about it :( Normally I never noticed until I couldn't proceed in MSQ.

Twintania/Spriggan have it the worst. Character creation is already restricted during the day due to the overpopulation of bots. I would bet we have like 8 bots per player on this server.
08-21-2019, 03:57 PM
Naryoril

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

It's a forced log-in queue to help keep traffic flowing smoothly. I suspect it will likely go away in a patch or two. Even if it doesn't, whatever they did this expansion to keep log in queues so low even from day one worked and I'm more than happy to have to sit through at most a 30 second log in screen if that's what it took.

In the first few weeks i sometimes had login queues of several hundred up to 1500, which meant waiting up to 1.5 hours to log in.
08-21-2019, 05:37 PM
Mhaeric

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Originally Posted by Naryoril

In the first few weeks i sometimes had login queues of several hundred up to 1500, which meant waiting up to 1.5 hours to log in.

I think the EU servers are pretty crowded still and they could still stand to add a server or two to it. I've seen a couple queues of 1500 but they were always right after a crash or unexpected maintenance when everyone and their dog was trying to get back in.
08-21-2019, 09:46 PM
LegendaryKing

maybe cuz there are more bots than actual players..... SE pls put a stop to this madness
08-21-2019, 10:46 PM
HumanNinjaToo

I started playing again about 1 week or so before ShB opened. I never had to wait more than a couple of minutes to get into the game, even on the day it launched, my queue number was 175 or something, it took less than 5 minutes to get in.
08-21-2019, 11:02 PM
wereotter

The queue has been there, at least on Aether, since before the expansion. I noticed it when they split the NA data centers, ever day, log in queue, even when character creation was restricted on the entire data center, log in queues every day. Since bots tend not to live very long, I don't think it's entirely bots gumming up the log in, though I suspect it's related.

I have the theory that it logs characters in in batches rather than just letting people pop in whenever since I can try to log in at 3am and still get a queue. I find it hard to believe that there are 10 people waiting to log in that early in the morning, and then when I try to log in after work it's only something like 25 people. If it is bots, however, this process may be able to start verifying real players versus bots sometime in the not too distant future, I hope, and eliminate them before they can even get online.
08-21-2019, 11:43 PM
Raltar

It was nice before the expansion I could leave my character logged in for several days and I wouldn't get booted. Now he gets booted if I'm AFK for more than 15 minutes and it sucks. Please go back to how it was before the expansion.
08-22-2019, 03:16 AM
linay

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Originally Posted by Krojack

I feel like these are a lie. At peek hours it's like 30. At dead hours (5/6 AM) it's like 10. I have a hard time believing these are still needed.

P.S. It's most likely bots. I never seen bots this bad in all my time playing this game.

It probably has to do with a hard cap that is in place. If the world has reached that cap, you will be placed in queue when logging in, even a queue of 1. Bots are still player characters that take the same amount of resource.

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Originally Posted by Tint

Sometimes they are and you can just cancel the queue and then log in directly. But it doesn't always work, sometimes the queue is real.

I think that's more of a case of the queue not checking in real time. Cancelling the queue and logging in again simply forces the game to check manually.
08-22-2019, 03:43 AM
Gula

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Originally Posted by LegendaryKing

maybe cuz there are more bots than actual players..... SE pls put a stop to this madness

Do tell, how. No really, do you honestly think there's a magic fix to remove all bots from any online game, ever?
08-22-2019, 03:47 AM
Allooutrick

This was on July 3rd 2019 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen..._185747993.jpg
08-22-2019, 06:08 AM
Krojack

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Originally Posted by Gula

Do tell, how. No really, do you honestly think there's a magic fix to remove all bots from any online game, ever?

When I first started playing WoW in 2007 bots were EVERYWHERE. They were spamming chat advertising their sites. They were running into the main cities and dying to spell out their website in dead bodies. They were gathering as well. When I think back to when I last played the game (several years ago) I can't think of of the last time I saw a spam message in chat or a bot. They fixed their server and client code to not only patch out and prevent many bots but their greatly improved their client side bot software detection software.

Sure there still are bots but you almost rarely see them. There are 2 now level 80 gathering bots, one of them that I've been reporting since last December and the other since March that SE just won't ban. I just checked while posting this message and they are there, gathering those Aetherial Reduction nodes. They run the loops 24/7 non-stop. SE WILL NOT BAN THEM. There also appears to be a 3rd one now too.

The fact that SE won't even ban reported bots makes me want to quit this game.
08-22-2019, 06:50 AM
Gula

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krojack

When I first started playing WoW in 2007 bots were EVERYWHERE. They were spamming chat advertising their sites. They were running into the main cities and dying to spell out their website in dead bodies. They were gathering as well. When I think back to when I last played the game (several years ago) I can't think of of the last time I saw a spam message in chat or a bot. They fixed their server and client code to not only patch out and prevent many bots but their greatly improved their client side bot software detection software.

Sure there still are bots but you almost rarely see them. There are 2 now level 80 gathering bots, one of them that I've been reporting since last December and the other since March that SE just won't ban. I just checked while posting this message and they are there, gathering those Aetherial Reduction nodes. They run the loops 24/7 non-stop. SE WILL NOT BAN THEM. There also appears to be a 3rd one now too.

The fact that SE won't even ban reported bots makes me want to quit this game.

They ban in waves. And it's handled by a small task force for it. It is not Square Enix, the company prioritizing RMT over all their projects from Hitman timed events to manga sales. XIV has to prioritize the game running and addressing game breaking issues first. Also, this is more of an NA problem over JP which is even less incentive to stop the presses.

I'm not saying it's not an issue either.