Did they ever mention why Gunbreaker/Dancer didn't get any primal weapons from the earlier primals before Shadowbringers even though the other new jobs did?
Gunbreaker/Dancer Primal weapons from before Shadowbringers.
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08-17-2019, 07:30 PMUnstablePersonalityGunbreaker/Dancer Primal weapons from before Shadowbringers.
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08-19-2019, 09:49 PMMaero
They basically stated they will not be doing them, at least for sometime.
Sounds very much like it is a low priority thing and did not want to dedicate time to doing them i guess. -
08-19-2019, 09:52 PMDynnDiablos
It stinks because I would love some icy Shiva Chakrams!
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08-20-2019, 02:47 AMDrWho2010
they didn't want to divert resources to create those weapons.
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08-20-2019, 04:26 AMDestati
They were/are on an extremely tight schedule/budget for this expansion. This was actually brought up in their last Live Letter:
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Q54:
Do you have any plans to add crafted primal weapons for gunbreaker and dancer?
A54:
Sorry, we don't have the free resources to account for this at the moment. The character team might slowly work on it between patches, but I can’t say "we’ll do it."
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08-20-2019, 04:28 AMHypnotic13371337
All they would have to do is make a Low Poly version of Leviathan and make him into a circle for the Dancer weapon :V
But I understand, would rather them put resources into fixing other things -
08-20-2019, 05:06 AMDoozer
Kind of disappointing, since DNC and GNB have like 8 unique models (i.e. not reused models that can be dyed instead) and they're not very exciting. I'm hoping for an interesting relic, but I have a feeling it'll just be Eureka crap again.
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08-20-2019, 05:10 AMtechnole
it's just better to go forward with new job weapons now, instead of making almost six years worth of instance weapons. Granted there was disappointment from farming extra pages and totems for previous savage and ultimates, but that's life I guess. I rather they make a better Eureka this expansion than how it was until Anemos.
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08-20-2019, 05:44 AMRyuDragnier
It makes sense, they have to work on new weapons, new areas, new beast tribes, create new hairstyles/faces for Viera/Hrothgar, fix it so more head pieces fit on Viera/Hrothgar, etc. They're probably solidly booked for a few patches (if not for the full expansion), and that's not adding in the possibility of them creating male Viera and female Hrothgar in advance for the next expansion...
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08-20-2019, 07:49 AMIlenya
Can you get DNC/GNB weapons from PotD/HoH?
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08-20-2019, 08:08 AMTankHunter678Yes you can as PotD caps out at 60 and HoH is right in the first half of their leveling experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilenya
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08-20-2019, 09:31 AMLiam_Harper
Aye, you can indeed.
The HoH versions aren't particularly special, but the Kinna Dancer and Gunbreaker weapons are quite nice, both having a dark fiery glow effect which looks particularly good on the Gunblade. You'll need floor 100 to get those, which is fairly easy with a group. -
08-20-2019, 10:10 AMAyuhra
Sophia Chakrams....
Why am I not allowed this? -
08-20-2019, 11:19 AMWhiteArchmage
I want Ravana chakrams so bad...
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08-20-2019, 12:51 PMBacentDon't you mean you have to get 30/30 and 60/60 worth of stats? You don't need to get to floor 100. You only have an easier time getting bonuses when you're in higher floor sets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam_Harper
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08-20-2019, 06:02 PMAlphaFoxThat was changed, not sure on HoH but PotD you just need 9 handles now and that requires 10/10 for 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacent
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08-20-2019, 07:39 PMValicMeanwhile they diverted resources to change the audio of a job only 3 weeks into the expansion when it wasn't even an issue. /shrugQuote:
Originally Posted by DrWho2010
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08-20-2019, 08:31 PMSeraphorWhen everyone was complaining about the sounds, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valic
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08-20-2019, 08:36 PMWellFooled
Because the game is constantly adding new sets of weapons it eventually becomes unfeasible to release new jobs with weapons from every set ever released. When ARR released for example, there were I think 3 primals that rewarded weapons. So it wouldn't take many resources to make sure a new job's weapons was added to that content after the fact.
But now there are 20+ trials that reward weapons, not to mention Deep Dungeon, dungeon, tomestone, and crafted set weapons. The amount of work it takes to make sure all jobs have weapons from this back catalog of content is vastly higher than it was in ARR.
It might be a bummer, but eventually the task reaches critical mass and is no longer worth the effort for every job released. -
08-20-2019, 08:37 PMSeraphorBut to stop all previous weapons is a bit of a blow.Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
If they kept to something like 'only the one previous expansions primals' or 'only ARR primals as a baseline' then it'd be more acceptable. -
08-20-2019, 08:42 PMDuskane
they bothered to put a Diadem weapon for GNB and DNC for some reason (even if its a recolor) bit of a waste
but i guess when we get Zurvan crafted weapons DNC and GNB will miss out -
08-20-2019, 10:25 PMWellFooledThankfully, they didn't stop all previous weapons. A gunblade was added for All Deep Dungeons, Shire, six different Stormblood dungeons, Sigmascape, Scaevan, and Omega. Which are all additions to previously designed sets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
More would certainly be nice, but I don't blame them for limiting it to this already fair sized list. It makes sense to only develop weapons for Gunbreakers in content that they'll actually be leveling through. -
08-20-2019, 10:35 PMSeraphorBut there's no glowy weapons! D:Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
EDIT: Also, Stormblood weapons should be a given, seeing as the jobs start at level 60.
They should ideally have all the weapons in their level range available, which would include Stormblood primals. -
08-20-2019, 10:40 PMLambdafish
Q54:
Do you have any plans to add crafted primal weapons for gunbreaker and dancer?
A54:
Sorry, we don't have the free resources to account for this at the moment. The character team might slowly work on it between patches, but I can’t say "we’ll do it." -
08-21-2019, 12:46 AMSummonerSenah
https://66.media.tumblr.com/820c3408...c8c20d4871.jpg
I just don't understand why they included the Diadem Coven weapons. Do a lot of people actually still do that content? If not, why did the resources go there instead of the primals that get run weekly due to Wandering Tails? -
08-21-2019, 01:04 AMjameseoakesI'm guess the weapon is a very quick reskin rather than a bespoke weapon so it was probably very little effort to addQuote:
Originally Posted by SummonerSenah
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08-21-2019, 01:13 AMLubu_Mykono
I doubt they will continue to add weapons back for old content. How many more jobs are going to be added in future that they'd have to go back and work on?
And how many hours would that be to get ideas, design, model then implement in game when there is a lot other stuff they are probably working on (like new relic weapons, Ultimate Weapons, full new Primal sets etc.) -
08-21-2019, 01:14 AMDuskaneeven if it was minimal effort it was extremely unneeded since the odds of anyone having this specific weaponQuote:
Originally Posted by jameseoakes
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08-21-2019, 01:37 AMValic"Everyone" is very broad, I'd say a very few select people were picky. I certainly wasn't of this group of complainers and the result has lead to most who complained to want the original sounds back. Quite a bit of a step back imo and a waste of resources on something that was fine to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
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08-21-2019, 02:39 AMjameseoakesI agree it's rather odd that they added it but it's no where near as much effort as making any of the primal weaponsQuote:
Originally Posted by Duskane
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08-21-2019, 03:09 AMCorue
I remember there was an older interview where Yoshi claimed they'd be receiving primal glamour weapons and another where DNC weapons were called "throwing weapons" because they didn't want to limit it to chakrams.
Am I remembering it wrong? -
08-21-2019, 03:38 AMAkonylIdea: Low level dancer primal weapons are actually all just discs with decals of the primals slapped on them. Genius and zero effort, get to it yoshi pQuote:
Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337
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08-21-2019, 09:13 PMMaeroI was under the impression as well that DNC would be able to use other weapons because that is how they made it sound. So you are not remembering wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Corue
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08-22-2019, 02:23 AMWhiteArchmageI remember that statement and the wording may have been the problem there. So far DNC weapons are either "chakrams", "tathlums", "glaives" or "war quoits", so they're not all "chrakram" but they ARE all circular weapons. TBH, that's what I figured they'd do: it'd be insanely hard to make the rest of throwing weapons (kunai, throwing stars, throwing daggers) fit DNC animations, but the wording implied we'd be getting more variety than chakram-look-alikesQuote:
Originally Posted by Corue
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08-23-2019, 05:22 PMJandorDeep dungeons will probably always get weapons seeing as you can't take your own in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilenya
We got PotD weapons this time around, even though the new jobs start at 60 and PotD is of limited usefulness to them. I expect going forward new jobs will continue to get PotD/HoH/'ShB deep dungeon' weapons. -
08-23-2019, 05:36 PMSeraphorAs long as the 'handle' is in the same position, there' no reason they all have to be circular.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage
And anything spinning fast enough will appear as a circle or a ring when flying through the air, so animations would be fine.
Personally disappointed that we don't have boomerangs. -
08-23-2019, 05:42 PMPepsi_PlungeMe too. I think boomerangs would work very well with the "I throw it away, then it comes back to me"-animation of the DNC-skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphor
Also: Thor's hammer. I want a set of Mjölnirs!