Suggestion: MSQ cutscene skip option

So like 99% of the playerbase, I, too, think the MSQ roulette needs to be made so you can skip cutscenes. So here's my idea for implementing it.

Add a checkbox in the settings box with the min ilvl/undersized party options to skip cutscenes in MSQ dungeons. The catch is, skipping the cutscenes gives you less exp.

For instance, Castrum Meridianum would only give you as much exp as, say, getting Snowcloak in 50/60/70 roulette, and Praetorium would give you exp equivalent to getting Amdapor Keep HM in 50/60/70, and also adjust the tome rewards accordingly.

Opting to watch the cutscenes instead will grant the rewards they have now to incentivize it. Maybe even bump it up further.

Additionally, maybe only make it an option for new players to skip if they've already cleared both. Having it mandatory for first timers would make the queues faster without making the rest of us slog through it every day.

There's another thread about getting it in mentor roulette, which is absolutely pointless since you have to be level capped to be a mentor, so you don't even get the bonuses, and there's better and faster ways to get tomes.

Please give this to us, SE. I'm willing to compromise with a hit to the exp gain.

The point of the MSQ currently is to help players get through it, not for you to get EXP or rush through the roulette.

It use to be skippable, and it gave less rewards. However, the skipping caused any new players wanting to watch the scenes lose out on the context and adventure because:

a. Everyone would just plow through all mobs and bosses and the player wouldn't get to see or experience it themselves.

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b. A massive influx of cutscenes actually force skips any that aren't the most recent after you complete the current one you are watching, meaning they lost context and scenes.

SE made the change to address these issues and buffed the rewards. Players harassing new players for it, or not willing to slow down for them just made the decision easier.

Adding something to make it so you don't do the roulette for the reason is there, currently, makes no sense from their point of view.

However, they are working on reducing the size/possibly making them a four-man trust dungeon, or something. So we'll see.

Current settings are fine to stay until SE find a way to 4-man them or allow squadrons/trusts to be taken in place of other players. You only need to run the duties once for the story, if you do it again it's because players are running the Roulette (thus bonus), there is no incentive enough to do them unsync whether the cutscenes are removed or not..

Nothing to see here!!

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Originally Posted by Lancer82

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That's good to know!! I will edit my post. Thanks for the info!

Ones already found way around them. They just log out and back in to skip them. Must be ok since nothing happened to any that know that's done it.

Here's a suggestion, if you don't like content, don't do it.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Ones already found way around them. They just log out and back in to skip them. Must be ok since nothing happened to any that know that's done it.

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It's a reportable offence. Don't do it, and don't suggest it to others.

I have no idea how you come up with "99% of the playerbase"
The major reason MSQ roulette is for new player who do not use skip potion to go through ARR, not free EXP or easy reward
giving undersized party options will be going completely the opposite direction
like other say, don't like it don't queue for it, if you queue for be prepare to commit for it

You people that want to skip the CSs are ignorant.

Excuse you. I work a 12 hour a day job, unlike those who let mommy and daddy pay all their bills for them and thus the free time to do everything. I don't have time to sit through 45 minutes of cutscenes for a 20 minute dungeon. My suggestion at least makes it so that people who want to see them can be paired with others who want to, and those who don't want to see them get paired with others who don't.

There are plenty of people who play the game that has that thing called 'life' keeping them from spending hours and hours in the game, especially since people who have been playing it for a while are now on the older end of the spectrum. I can't count how many times now I've been in content where people have to brb because kids need attention.

Tbh, it should never have been a roulette to begin with. If they make them a 4-man trust dungeon, that would be perfect.

If you aren't even paying attention to the cutscenes and are doing activities other than ffxiv while waiting, what's even the point of the cutscenes?

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Originally Posted by zaverxi

I don't have time to sit through 45 minutes of cutscenes for a 20 minute dungeon. My suggestion at least makes it so that people who want to see them can be paired with others who want to, and those who don't want to see them get paired with others who don't.

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If you aren't even paying attention to the cutscenes and are doing activities other than ffxiv while waiting, what's even the point of the cutscenes?

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So if you don't have time for the 45-minute dungeon, don't spend what precious playtime you have on it? There's so much to do in this game that there must be something else. You're looking for an efficiency that doesn't exist. There is no "20 minute" dungeon to be found here - not since players refused to slow down on the occasions when newbies needed it, so the slow pace was enforced on every run equally.

And the "point of the cutscenes" is for the first-time players, while the rest of us re-running the dungeon are primarily there to help them out. The cutscenes aren't for us, but we're there for the people who *are* there for the cutscenes.

And, as noted either here or in the myriad other threads on the same conversation, many people WILL be doing their "working bill-paying adult" housework during the cutscenes. (I generally run it when I have washing to hang up.)

What about a ready check function that says "Skip Cutscene" and if 100% say yes, it allows skipping? This would allow a new player the option to choose. We may have people in chat saying "Skip", "Just skip" or "Skip or I wont heal you", etc. So I feel that harassing others to skip against their will should be a bannable offense.

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Originally Posted by zaverxi

So like 99% of the playerbase, I, too, think the MSQ roulette needs to be made so you can skip cutscenes.

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So like 99% of the playerbase, I, too, think the MSQ roulette doesn't need to be made skipable.

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

What about a ready check function that says "Skip Cutscene" and if 100% say yes, it allows skipping? This would allow a new play the option to choose. We may have people in chat saying "Skip", "Just skip" or "Skip or I wont heal you", etc. So I feel that harassing others to skip against their will should be a bannable offense.

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Firstly - there are probably a lot of people who just don't skip only to irritate others (like me).
Secondly - Newbies would feel pressured into skipping and most of them don't even know how to report or that this would be reportable behaviour.

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Originally Posted by zaverxi

Excuse you. I work a 12 hour a day job, unlike those who let mommy and daddy pay all their bills for them and thus the free time to do everything. I don't have time to sit through 45 minutes of cutscenes for a 20 minute dungeon. My suggestion at least makes it so that people who want to see them can be paired with others who want to, and those who don't want to see them get paired with others who don't.

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I only work 45 hours a week. Am i qualified to talk about time management? I mean im going to regardless, DONT RUN MSQ IF YOU DONT HAVE TIME FOR IT. Run leveling and alliance for exp, run expert alliance 50/etc pvp trials and raids for tomes. Or run fates for exp and run a hunt train for tomes. Or do another combination of the dozens of ways these things can be earned that dont require 45 minutes of cutscenes. Your suggestion to make it a trust dungeon is solid(and has been a suggestion for 6 years now), you know the day that happens this roulette and its spicy bonus will be deleted right? I look forward to that day personally, though i know i dont speak for everyone.

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

What about a ready check function that says "Skip Cutscene" and if 100% say yes, it allows skipping? This would allow a new player the option to choose.

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This has been explain before, but ill try one more time. The way these cutscenes are coded there can only be one version that exists in the game. They picked the unskippable version because of mountains of complaints over a couple years(easily 10-100 times the level of complaining the "i want to skip" crowd is currently running). The cutscenes have the same auto-text scroll if you watch them in the inn room. And even if they went in and recoded these to make it an option, what makes you think the rewards would be any good if you could skip the cutscenes? The rewards are only the way they are because of the cutscenes.

I have like 1 hr of play time from Mon to Friday, and queuing expert, alliance raid, normal raid and trial ususally left me nothing or little time left, or I could queue MSQ and do little other content with remaining time

The choice are there, no one is force to queue any of those, other than new player going through ARR. Just don’t queue it if time is not allowed

The whole MSQ roulette is there for new players, the reward is only a bonus or compensation for anyone already finish MSQ. Nothing will change and nothing will work. All those vote to skip, premade, skippable if all player already clear it, all these will only have negative impact on new player queue time on MSQ

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Originally Posted by zaverxi

I work a 12 hour a day job, unlike those who let mommy and daddy pay all their bills for them and thus the free time to do everything.

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Oh boy, we've found the only person in the world who works for a living and therefore their opinion is the most valid.

Everyone has a life outside of the game dude, they run content that is convenient to them. Most people do chores or cook their dinner while running MSQ cutscenes and it's hella convenient. On yet another thread of this subject created yesterday, I said I'd make a pizza and I did just that.

It's a roulette so that new players don't get locked from progressing through this content, no one in their right mind would queue for it willingly without it being part of a roulette, unless they're helping a new player, who would presumably want to watch the cutscenes, so skipping isn't even an option here or would you strive to force them to rush it and watch it later at the inn like players did in the past? (which instigated the unskippable scenes might I add)

It can't be a 4 man trust dungeon because the story doesn't indicate that there are a group of npc's ready to enter the dungeon with us. If you remember before every dungeon in Shadowbringers, we're accompanied by our friends and they also appear at the end of the dungeons.

The point of the cutscenes are to allow any prospective new players to view them, or older players who historically had to skip them because people complained about new players watching the cutscenes (which was entirely the point of making them unskippable).

If you want an option to skip the cutscenes, you won't mind getting the old rewards then? 30% of what they are nowadays, or do you think they'll just keep them as they are now but kindly adhere to your request?

I think they said they are contemplating how to maybe make it a trust dungeon in the future when they do the ARR culling in 5.3. Maybe you'd just have generic alliance soldiers for it