A quality of life idea

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07-30-2019, 08:42 PM
Ardeth

A quality of life idea

So with the advent of abilities prunes and them adding abilities I think it's time they added a small QoL change to were if you don't have an ability on your hot bar it glows to tell you "Hey, you forgot this one." I don't think it would be too hard to add. And would help newer and old players coming back after a break. They see 8(random number) abilities gone and they got one or two new ones they could glance see what they don't have and add it to their bar.

Anyway what do you guys think?
07-30-2019, 09:26 PM
AlphaFox

Agreed, spent a good amount of time making a mini checklist for each skill making sure I have em all.
04-24-2021, 03:21 AM
Ardeth

Still waiting SE.
04-24-2021, 03:39 AM
Shougun

Definitely would be very handy.
04-24-2021, 06:02 AM
strawberrycake

Its something they added to WoW a few years back, your spell book glows until you've put all your abilities on your bar, it would be a nice addition to FF
04-24-2021, 06:14 AM
Ardeth

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Originally Posted by strawberrycake

Its something they added to WoW a few years back, your spell book glows until you've put all your abilities on your bar, it would be a nice addition to FF

Yeah that's where I got the idea from. I don't think it would be too hard to code. Just one of those QoL changes like searching for emotes and etc. It doesn't need to be a core feature of Endwalker just tac it onto a patch at some point.
04-24-2021, 06:21 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

Yeah that's where I got the idea from. I don't think it would be too hard to code. Just one of those QoL changes like searching for emotes and etc. It doesn't need to be a core feature of Endwalker just tac it onto a patch at some point.

While it doesn't need to be it would certainly be an advantageous time to be there 'at' Endwalker ;)

(of course if someone said "delay Endwalker or release it on time and add it later", I'd be like.. yeh just add it later lol).
04-24-2021, 06:49 AM
Jeeqbit

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

I don't think it would be too hard to add.

My thoughts exactly. It's not too hard for the player to add by looking through Actions & Traits.
04-24-2021, 06:59 AM
Doozer

I would definitely be on board with that, and certainly not because I went back to playing MCH after not playing it since like HW and maybe not realizing I was missing a skill that was added to a level lower than I was so I didn't have it on my hotbar for some time..... :rolleyes:
04-24-2021, 07:04 AM
SenorPatty

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

My thoughts exactly. It's not too hard for the player to add by looking through Actions & Traits.

Only if you remember to look. That's OP's point and it's one that I wholly support.
04-24-2021, 07:05 AM
Ardeth

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Originally Posted by Doozer

I would definitely be on board with that, and certainly not because I went back to playing MCH after not playing it since like HW and maybe not realizing I was missing a skill that was added to a level lower than I was so I didn't have it on my hotbar for some time..... :rolleyes:

It's funny because the same thing happened to me with Machinist. I got it to 80 around the time Shadowbringers came out. Anyway somehow I was missing like two or 3 abilities and had I not been making a cross hot bar layout I don't think I would have noticed any missing abilities. My bars were full up as far as I was concerned. Of course I fixed it and never stank up any content being bad, but it's still funny that it was on the same job.
04-24-2021, 07:11 AM
Jeeqbit

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Only if you remember to look.

Why would you not remember to look? The game tells you about it in Active Help, it adds the actions to your hotbar when you level up and it's generally obvious that if your hotbars are a mess because you just returned, you should look at finding the menu that allows you to redo them.

When you return to the game you get invited to the Novice Network where you can ask these sort of questions if you are lost, or you can ask in your free company chat if you're still in one.

Some people may not want actions on their hotbar because of them being useless or impractical and this helps SE to know when an action has fallen out of use, which does usually happen to a small number of actions or abilities each expansion.
04-24-2021, 07:20 AM
Doozer

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

Of course I fixed it and never stank up any content being bad, but it's still funny that it was on the same job.

Same. I was still able to hold my own in regular content despite missing what I believe now to be a pretty useful skill, but at least I have it now. :cool:
04-24-2021, 08:02 AM
Ardeth

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Why would you not remember to look? The game tells you about it in Active Help, it adds the actions to your hotbar when you level up and it's generally obvious that if your hotbars are a mess because you just returned, you should look at finding the menu that allows you to redo them.

When you return to the game you get invited to the Novice Network where you can ask these sort of questions if you are lost, or you can ask in your free company chat if you're still in one.

Some people may not want actions on their hotbar because of them being useless or impractical and this helps SE to know when an action has fallen out of use, which does usually happen to a small number of actions or abilities each expansion.

I understand were you are coming from I just like that little feature in Wow. It has come up especially if my ui resets and I have to fix my bars. It happens and knowing at a glance if I'm missing something important to me. I know I can't speak for everyone and that's fine. I hope you can at least see that.
04-24-2021, 08:15 AM
ItMe

If they add this hopefully they also add the ability to turn it off.
I keep some of my skills off my hotbar intentionally and I wouldn't want the incessant glow to annoy me.
04-24-2021, 08:27 AM
Ardeth

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Originally Posted by ItMe

If they add this hopefully they also add the ability to turn it off.
I keep some of my skills off my hotbar intentionally and I wouldn't want the incessant glow to annoy me.

Theoretically it would only be visible when you are in your jobs skills page. You would never see them if you didn't have it open. And knowing this game it would probably be a little green dot in the corner. Which again is the point so you know you are missing skills. Whether you chose to use them is up to you, but it wouldn't be annoying at all if implemented correctly.
04-24-2021, 08:42 AM
TaleraRistain

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Originally Posted by ItMe

If they add this hopefully they also add the ability to turn it off.
I keep some of my skills off my hotbar intentionally and I wouldn't want the incessant glow to annoy me.

Agreed. Repose and Fluid Aura come to mind for me. I would want to be able to turn it off since I have intentionally left those off my hotbar.
04-24-2021, 08:51 AM
ItMe

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

Theoretically it would only be visible when you are in your jobs skills page. You would never see them if you didn't have it open. And knowing this game it would probably be a little green dot in the corner. Which again is the point so you know you are missing skills. Whether you chose to use them is up to you, but it wouldn't be annoying at all if implemented correctly.

Fair point.
04-24-2021, 09:41 AM
SenorPatty

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Why would you not remember to look? The game tells you about it in Active Help, it adds the actions to your hotbar when you level up and it's generally obvious that if your hotbars are a mess because you just returned, you should look at finding the menu that allows you to redo them.

When you return to the game you get invited to the Novice Network where you can ask these sort of questions if you are lost, or you can ask in your free company chat if you're still in one.

Some people may not want actions on their hotbar because of them being useless or impractical and this helps SE to know when an action has fallen out of use, which does usually happen to a small number of actions or abilities each expansion.

You know, situations like this one:

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

It's funny because the same thing happened to me with Machinist. I got it to 80 around the time Shadowbringers came out. Anyway somehow I was missing like two or 3 abilities and had I not been making a cross hot bar layout I don't think I would have noticed any missing abilities. My bars were full up as far as I was concerned. Of course I fixed it and never stank up any content being bad, but it's still funny that it was on the same job.

Do happen. If nothing in your head pipes up to make you remember that a certain skill is not in your hotbar, you're just not going to look for it and usually, it's by trigger we remember to look for things. Just like Ardeth, I took a break in ShB. Came back, fixed up my hotbars for BLM and went on about my business for nearly 3 weeks, never once thinking that I should put Surecast in there (even worse, I thought it was there). Active Help didn't come out of nowhere on my screen to say I didn't have it when I came back. It was only when I was in a situation where I thought "where is that skill that lets me be immune to knockbacks for a few secs" did I actually realize I didn't have.

And besides, you're only looking at it from that facet. What about another facet where someone, who hasn't taken a break at all but maybe they were just completely cleaning hotbars, re-arranged skills from scratch and simply forgot to add a skill? That QoL would be a nice reminder to the player to put it back.