Requesting NA East Coast servers for this game please! With the growing popularity, one would think that the high population of players in this part of the world would make it worth the investment. Playing an online game at 100ms ping is pretty rough at times. Please SE! Make it happen! Please!
East Coast Servers Please!
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07-27-2019, 09:41 AMJuanpierreEast Coast Servers Please!
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07-27-2019, 09:58 AMsauc
Agreed I don't bother using rescue because for all I know the guy I'm trying to resuce on my screen is out of the ae already or it takes too long to register anyway and he gets hit. Clipping on double weaves always happens, interrupting spells in pvp is 100% not possible unless I can see into the future since half the cast bar complete on my screen= the spell has already went off. Bio into fester will make it so fester doesn't get bio's bonus because it took too long to apply despite being an instant cast. Could list so many examples.
Back in arr when they were in montreal everything happened when I pressed the button and no one slid and jerked around on my screen. -
07-27-2019, 10:10 AMSturmChurro
Definitely need some East Coast servers. The whole game is laggy. I have actually gotten used to playing it like such, do everything early! Suzaku was a nightmare when i first did it.
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07-27-2019, 10:24 AMFallenArisen0990
We did have one by the East Coast and SE went and moved it to Canada...
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07-27-2019, 12:38 PMDynnDiablos
I live on the east coast and the game plays perfectly smooth and I’ve rarely experienced lag.
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07-27-2019, 12:42 PMCanadaneWell this isn't entirely accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990
We had servers in Canada, Montreal specifically, which is kinda close to the US east coast (Canadas east coast is much much further).
They took those out of Canada and migrated them to California, where SE HQ is. -
07-27-2019, 12:51 PMRoda
Prefer centralized server so I could still play with my west coast friends without either of us getting screwed
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07-27-2019, 01:04 PMShurrikhanCanada is where they started. They moved to the US. Just... the west coast thereof.Quote:
Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990
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07-27-2019, 01:56 PMVaunhause
Centralized would be most preferred, but man. I live in on the east coast myself, and find it rather difficult to play some ping heavy classes, if impossible to play some. Not that Dark Knight is one of them, but double weaving is definitely more difficult than I remember it being from when I last played... To the point where I have to use wtfast to do it properly w/ 0 issues. Not to mention, a lot of whats wrong w/ having west coast servers means that east coast players, most of them even if they USE a ping enhancer, still cannot play ping heavy classes like Ninja or Machinist. I can barely play machinist with Wtfast, I can't imagine how someone w/o it would try to. And by play, I mean fitting 6 GCD's into Wildfire. It's just inconvenient for east coast players, less so for people in central, and fantastic for west coast.
Worst part is, when the servers were in Montreal, I went on and moved to the east coast for reasons unrelated to FFXIV, and now they're all the way in the west. Talk about a bad turn of fate, eh? -
07-27-2019, 02:22 PMKaethra
I've been playing various types of online games for well over 20 years now from the east coast. Never have I had trouble on a server on the West Coast, Central, Canada, or even in Uk or Germany (used to play on some EU servers in a FPS quite a while back). If shooters work fine, and other MMOs with faster GCDs can work fine. Then the issue you all are having isn't the location.
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07-27-2019, 02:32 PMMesarthim
100 ping is not difficult. Source: I live in Hawaii. At worst double weaving can be annoying.
Not that I would say no to east coasters having lower latency. I'm going to have 3 digit latency no matter where. -
07-27-2019, 02:40 PMCaitsithhhActually it is location. If you don’t care about ping and being the very best you can be then cool, do you and ignore your excessively high ping. It is there, it’s isn’t a fake ailment that people make up to feel better about themselves. Depending on how your ISP routes you and the number of hops you have to make to get to the west coast’s servers can add lots of input lag. Makes 2 classes unable to perform optimally. Really client side controls is what I’d prefer over server location but doubt that’ll ever happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaethra
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07-27-2019, 02:43 PMDonovanLifeweaverget a better conenction? using 450mbps here and i never had issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by sauc
andits also a godo way to unearth the east coast west coast BS again. we have almost 20 servers to choose from. also just to rub it... during 2.0 the NA servers were on east coast.. but usa had to tamper tantrum over that so SE had to move them to the middle of nowhere in the usa -
07-27-2019, 02:54 PMValkyrie_LennethActually no, this is false. The datacenter the servers were in was unsustainable, or they'd likely still be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonovanLifeweaver
There were in SE's Montreal office. They had reached the power limits of the office space, and could no longer add new hardware. The servers were also old, and they also had frequent issues with level3 outages in the areas during the late afternoon hours causing player disruptions.
Since the move to California, these issues have been lessened to the majority of the player base.
If you weren't around before the server move, you probably don't understand just how bad it was. I had more issues connecting to Montreal from Florida than I did connecting to california.
Also, there's a myth out that that faster internet speed means your internet connection is better in every way. This is not accurate. A lot of high speed connections are routed in specific ways to meet that high speed, introducing high latency to certain areas. Isps do not find it worth the cost to route properly, as it would cost them money and it doesnt effect everyone, so why should they bother. This is the issue with 99.9% of the issues people have with lag in xiv. -
07-27-2019, 03:02 PMsauc
I've got a 25 Mbps connection, friend of mine has a 450 like you and he has the same problems as me. Another friend of mine has a pitiful 5Mbps download speed and it's the same deal with all 3 of us.
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07-27-2019, 03:13 PMConandoThe East Coast servers WERE in Canada, Montreal to be exact. They moved them to Southern California which isn’t near anything other than California itself. I find it ridiculous they don’t factor in the vastness of the continent.Quote:
Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990
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07-27-2019, 03:48 PMSturmChurro
The lag is a huge thing. The ping in this game actually is very sporadic and shoots up constantly. You have to "adjust" to the lag, by doing things ahead of time. If you see an aoe or know one is about to go off you move ahead of time, because if you don't move early the server will think you are still in it, even if you are 20 feet away. That is why if you use your dancer dash, for example, to get out of things you will still get hit unless you time it right because your character will still be in whatever you are dashing out of. You pretty much would have to dash before , or as it goes off to not get hit by whatever you are trying to avoid. Same thing goes with rescue, that can be ultimately useless unless the healer does it early enough. This is why following people with a marker over their head never works, because they don't move on your screen when they actually moved, and you won't have time to follow them and get out of the mechanics.
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07-27-2019, 04:08 PMRareItems
Hopefully SE will put some servers on the East coast instead of going the BDO route lol which is pretty much giving you a link to Mudfish VPN website.
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07-27-2019, 07:40 PMDynnDiablos
What kind of backwoods Internet are you all playing with? I honestly never experience lag, and live in Florida. The game runs silky smooth, and to the person saying MCH is unplayable I have no idea what you’re talking about since I main MCH and never have issues. If the game ran as poorly as you all are making it out to be why would anyone play it?
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07-27-2019, 07:53 PMDagget
I live in Texas and have about 65m ping to the US servers and 130ms to the EU datacenter where I do most of my playing. Even the 130ms ping is hardly an issue. Now we have a few FC members from Australia with 320ms pings (to the EU datacenter) and they start to have significant issues, but still manage to get thru all the regular content (they don't mess with EX or Savage content).
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07-27-2019, 09:11 PMMistakeNotA mere 100ms ping time isn't unusually high for this type of game, and certainly does not make it unplayable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juanpierre
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07-27-2019, 09:24 PMVaunhauseThis sounds like you dont actually optimize your mch gameplay and land 6 gcd in a 10 second window, lol. Maybe your internet is just that god tier; who knows. But I need less than 100 ping to play mch. It's common knowledge that Mch right now is a very ping sensitive class due to how landing the final gcd in wildfire, even if you shoot it before it lands, can sometimes not register.Quote:
Originally Posted by DynnDiablos
And it's only with Ninja or Mch that I have an issue with this with, since they are the ping heavy classes, Ninja being much moreso than the other (even with 80 ping, I cannot double weave DWAD and Kassatsu. Rip opener and optimal usage.)
I don't have an issue optimizing or playing classes except those two.
Can make like 1 or 2 classes unplayable, and a whole lot of others inconvenient, but that only really matters to people that want to minmax like me. Not sure if many people in the thread are of that same mind, but that's about the only reason why ping matters. This game is 100% playable otherwise w/ even like 150 ping if you're not looking to double weave and do openers and fit windowsQuote:
Originally Posted by MistakeNot
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07-27-2019, 11:36 PMdemonette
East coast servers doesn't solve anything, because then the other half of the raid group who is on the west would have the same problem.
This is why we need one set of CENTRALIZED servers. -
07-27-2019, 11:51 PMKaethraIts not even that bad for a first person shooter where latency is a far more noticeable issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by MistakeNot
As I said before, if you're on the east coast (like I am) and you're having network issues. Its not your location. And when I say I'm east coast, I mean as far east as you can get in the US. The ocean is literally a 5 min drive from here. What is going to cause you problems is an aging infrastructure. Network jitter where your latency spikes up and down will cause far more issues than higher ping. A ping that is unstable in the 30-120ms range is worse than a stable 200ms ping.
Point is, they could make these servers, and you all would still have the issues you are having. -
07-28-2019, 12:15 AMSieteOh, not in east coast? That explains my 270-330ms ping instead of 150-180ms from Argentina!Quote:
Originally Posted by Juanpierre
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07-28-2019, 01:11 AMKaethraNow see this makes more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siete
I don't know how many play down south of the canal, but if its enough, they ought to consider a SA server base. -
09-26-2020, 09:45 AMZarkovitch
Adding East Coast server or Central servers would be great! It will show how serious SE is. Right now the game is doing good. I think it time to expand the servers locations. Bring more choices and less technical problems with ISP. That would be awesome gift for the community.
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09-26-2020, 01:49 PMFeronar
I think they should spread the data centers out. Maybe have one in California, one in Texas, and one in New York. If all 3 have to be in the same location, it should be close to the center of the country.
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09-26-2020, 05:50 PMKewitt
1 gbe fiber, no issue with server pings get better isp. I'm in Canada in CST.
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More important is a jitter free connection, It's a lot harder to play if it misses a server tic because of dropped packets.
I play a very reactive play style, Most of the time I don't worry about learning fights because I can just react to what is happening. Don't get me wrong learning a fight is the difference between reacting and feeling like the fight is super slow. When I learn an EX fight I find I have so much time between GCD and OGCD. -
09-26-2020, 06:00 PMKurando
People be under the impression the NA servers are for USA alone, well they are not. They serve NA, Central/South America and any other outlying areas, so just because Central (USA) servers seems good, it would actually affect a lot more players than you think. Think OCE players deserve a data centre much more honestly....