A Simple Change: Add Weapon Combos to PvE Hotbar

It would work like this: Once a skill that can be combo'd with another is learned, you can right click the *First* skill in your hot-bar and it will bring up the normal context menu, but above the normal "Remove" option, there would be the option to "Create Combo Button" (or whatever it ends up being called, I'm not great at naming things). Then, a sub-hotbar would appear above the selected skill with the first skill and a box with a plus in it, to which you'd drag and drop the next skill on top of the second box, adding it to the combo.

The reason this should be implemented is it would allow skill-heavy classes to clean up their screen a bit and give them one less thing to worry about.

They specifically said they wouldn't do it for pve and combo actions

I'm all in favor of it, however...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-combo-button

tl;dr: The various occasional threads on the issue always seem to attract those both vehemently in favor and opposed, and there is no convincing either side. Personally, I don't see what's wrong with the idea, regardless of what side of the fence you're on, so long as it's optional, but the response is always "don't touch muh buttons" and "your idea is terrible and dumb" and "hitting 1, 2, 3 is fun and engaging compared to 1, 1, 1" and "I don't personally have any hotbar space issues, so therefore this is 100% unnecessary" which aren't really valid arguments assuming this setting is optional.

I think I'm in the minority that likes to press numerous different buttons & kinda was upset at the button squish lol. I'd be cool with this if it was purely optional, but at the same time, I'm kind of against it.

It'd be awkward when you have multiple combos that start with the same skill. But the main reason SE refuses to do it is that it's a step too close to a generic "do whatever is useful" button that's about as interesting as auto-attacks.

I'm not sure why having multiple combos starting with the same skill would be awkward. Back when WAR had two PvP combos, both combos started with Heavy Swing. The first press of either combo button 1 or combo button 2 would advance both combos. It executed Heavy Swing regardless of which combo you initially pressed and you could still decide which combo button to press after that.

I would disagree that 1-2-3 is any more or less interesting than 1-1-1. I mean, all your other buttons aren't going anywhere. If combat were as simple as pressing 1-2-3 over and over, I wouldn't still be playing. However, I've heard that argument enough times that clearly a large amount of people believe it to be true. Either way, so long as this was optional, none of the detractors need to care one way or the other about it.

ok, first of all, don't do this.
that being said.... i DO have a "brain-dead" single target macro for semi-afk questing as PLD. it is extremely inefficient.

/ac "Shield Lob"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Fast Blade"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Riot Blade"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Goring Blade"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Fast Blade"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Riot Blade"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Royal Authority"
/wait 2.5
/ac "Total Eclipse"

i have it set to the ~ key, and only use it when i'm questing solo, and would rather focus on BS'ing in chat, or watching/reading something on the other screen.
when i see the AoE go off, i know it has completed and i tap the macro again (every 20 seconds or so) until the fight is over.

this is the closest thing i can think of to what you're asking, but really, dont do this. ESPECIALLY when in groups.

Can't do fractional wait times. Wait times are always integers.

you cant? fractional wait times always work for me, as long as its a value of .5

...although that is only if the wait timer is on its own line with "/wait #", it will not work with "<wait.#>" at the end of a line.

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Originally Posted by JesterMan491

you cant? fractional wait times always work for me, as long as its a value of .5

...although that is only if the wait timer is on its own line with "/wait #", it will not work with "<wait.#>" at the end of a line.

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It'd be hard to see without some kind of timer to actually measure (unless you're really good at counting half seconds), but yeah the wait timer always operates in integers.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Can't do fractional wait times. Wait times are always integers.

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Originally Posted by JesterMan491

you cant? fractional wait times always work for me, as long as its a value of .5

...although that is only if the wait timer is on its own line with "/wait #", it will not work with "<wait.#>" at the end of a line.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

It'd be hard to see without some kind of timer to actually measure (unless you're really good at counting half seconds), but yeah the wait timer always operates in integers.

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Here ya go:

Code:

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/cd 6
/wait 5.5
/e <se.9>
/wait 2
/cd 6
/wait 6.4
/e <se.9>

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Run this macro. The 5.5 wait will end at the same time as the 6s countdown. the 6.4 wait will also end at the same time as the 6s countdown.

@OP
Could you not create a macro? I know someone said they created a macro with like 6 functions, and that is probably fine for solo content, not so fine when doing group content that requires you to be more flexible. However, if you are only needing to free up a few spaces on the hotbar, why not create just a couple of macros that do only the first two steps of the combo. Then you are not hard committed to a long chain within the macro, and you free up 2 or 3 spaces on the hotbar. You are essentially combining just step 1 and step 2, allowing you to either continue your combo/rotation or abandon in case something is happening.