FFXI is great and I want this return

In FFXI there was a function called "Invisible" which hid you from your friends list. I'd like to see this return in some form perhaps enhanced to work with linkshells and FC.

Sometimes I don't feel like talking to anyone or even saying I'm busy. This is good for those moments. Busy status isn't enough.

I appreciated this feature in Wow when it was added
there's really no downside to adding it, sometimes you just don't feel like talking and that's fine

Oh gawd, yes. I've mentioned the XI to my friends before, and how much I'd love for that option to be a thing.

It's nice sometimes to just be able to log in, do what you want to do quietly, and then go on with your day. :X

The Invisible feature in FFXI did not actually hide you completely though - you would still show up in a manual player search (I found that out personally many a time using /invisible when certain people I did not want to speak to found me anyway). It definetely hid you from those who were lazy and just checked the Friend List, but a determined stalker or troll would double check anyway using the search function, and there you were (and in fact it would often cause further problems as they'd then realize you had specifically put yourself in Invisible status to hide yourself from them).

If it was thus brought into FFXIV, it would need to hide you completely, including removing you from player search.

Honestly every piece of interactive, multiplayer media should have this kind of feature. Sometimes you just don't want to deal with other people and that's okay.

Yes! This would be nice I definitely go through days when I want to play quietly.

I just either log off or tell people I'll hit them up later. I don't see SE adding this in, not when most people .. WAIT stop. NOONE TALKS IN THIS GAME ANYWAY!!!?!???! You're lucky enough to get a damn "Hi" in dungeons... the buck.

I think that's what the busy symbol is for o.o.

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Originally Posted by RareItems

I think that's what the busy symbol is for o.o.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

The Invisible feature in FFXI did not actually hide you completely though - you would still show up in a manual player search (I found that out personally many a time using /invisible when certain people I did not want to speak to found me anyway). It definetely hid you from those who were lazy and just checked the Friend List, but a determined stalker or troll would double check anyway using the search function, and there you were (and in fact it would often cause further problems as they'd then realize you had specifically put yourself in Invisible status to hide yourself from them).

If it was thus brought into FFXIV, it would need to hide you completely, including removing you from player search.

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I addressed both of these things in the OP.

I don't understand why you would have people in your friends list who you want to hide from, especially when you mention them as "trolls" "finding you anyway".

Just get rid of people who you don't want to be surrounded with. everyone else should understand the BUSY Status.

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Originally Posted by BatLW

I don't understand why you would have people in your friends list who you want to hide from, especially when you mention them as "trolls" "finding you anyway".

Just get rid of people who you don't want to be surrounded with. everyone else should understand the BUSY Status.

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So you answer every phone call at all times no matter what?

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Originally Posted by BatLW

I don't understand why you would have people in your friends list who you want to hide from, especially when you mention them as "trolls" "finding you anyway".

Just get rid of people who you don't want to be surrounded with. everyone else should understand the BUSY Status.

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You're assuming they don't want to be talked to all the time, rather than the occasional or one-off. This argument always comes up when people argue for invisible modes, and it never stands up to scrutiny. Sometimes it's just easier to be in an invisible state than explain to a dozen people that no, today you just want to decompress.

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Originally Posted by Doljax

You're assuming they don't want to be talked to all the time, rather than the occasional or one-off. This argument always comes up when people argue for invisible modes, and it never stands up to scrutiny. Sometimes it's just easier to be in an invisible state than explain to a dozen people that no, today you just want to decompress.

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I mean.. you could just.. put the busy icon on. You don't get tells when it's on. And if these people are on your friend list they can mail you anyway, so being hidden wouldn't stop them from doing that. Honestly we already have the tools I just don't see the point. Busy icon does it's job, and if you want to bring up - But they still see me- Yeah? Even if they didn't they can STILL mail you. So honestly... update your status info and busy icon. Boom.. success.

This is ofcourse not looking at the actual problem... NOONE TALKS HERE!!!?!! I just did a dungeon with a shitty healer when addressed said jack crap. We get people on our friend's list who never contact you but once. Honestly.

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Originally Posted by Insertcoins

I mean.. you could just.. put the busy icon on. You don't get tells when it's on. And if these people are on your friend list they can mail you anyway, so being hidden wouldn't stop them from doing that. Honestly we already have the tools I just don't see the point. Busy icon does it's job, and if you want to bring up - But they still see me- Yeah? Even if they didn't they can STILL mail you. So honestly... update your status info and busy icon. Boom.. success.

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You could, and it would solve the problem in the interim. But then you get the issue down the line of people asking things like "Why didn't you talk to me yesterday? Did I do something wrong? Is something wrong?" and so on. Basically the problem people generally wish to obviate with an invisible mode. Depending on how much development time it'd take to implement, there's nothing wrong with adding more tools of this nature.

Nobody reads statuses anyway.

FFXI is great (Period).

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Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

So you answer every phone call at all times no matter what?

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In general: Yes. Someone took his time and effort to call me so I at least should give the person so much of my attention to ask what it is about. But even if you would not:

That is what the Mailbox is for. I am currently not reachable. It's not like they get a "The person you called currently does not exist. Please try again later" message, but they realize I am not available or have no time to respond.

In this case, asking for Invisibility would indicate an underlying social issue with some of your peers. As stated, "Busy" blocks all tells and should make people realize you are not available.

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Originally Posted by BatLW

In general: Yes. Someone took his time and effort to call me so I at least should give the person so much of my attention to ask what it is about. But even if you would not:

That is what the Mailbox is for. I am currently not reachable. It's not like they get a "The person you called currently does not exist. Please try again later" message, but they realize I am not available or have no time to respond.

In this case, asking for Invisibility would indicate an underlying social issue with some of your peers. As stated, "Busy" blocks all tells and should make people realize you are not available.

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It's ok if you prioritize others over you. But Many players prioritize themselves over others and I don't think any of the options are wrong, but certainly only one is supported in the game.

Another thing is privacy. Sometimes we want to do events and we don't want to show where we are to our friends. And I don't want to blacklist them just for this event, since removing from friends don't remove me on their friend list, only mine list. I's such an simple function.

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Originally Posted by Insertcoins

This is ofcourse not looking at the actual problem... NOONE TALKS HERE!!!?!! I just did a dungeon with a shitty healer when addressed said jack crap. We get people on our friend's list who never contact you but once. Honestly.

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Look, some of us build groups of friends online. We also join FC's because we like to play with people. Sometimes though we would rather just bury our heads in the game without people bugging us to come join them or even just /tell-ing us stuff. This isn't to avoid random tells and messages, it's to disconnect from even established friends. We don't HATE them, but introversion is a thing, even online.

This is a feature I have been wanting for years. We should have an option to hide ourselves.

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Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

In FFXI there was a function called "Invisible" which hid you from your friends list. I'd like to see this return in some form perhaps enhanced to work with linkshells and FC.

Sometimes I don't feel like talking to anyone or even saying I'm busy. This is good for those moments. Busy status isn't enough.

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have you tried logging off? people have a hard time messaging me that way. /s

I just dont reply to people if i dont feel like talking. they get the hint pretty quickly.

I'm a very introverted person and admittedly I do not have many friends in my friends list so I'm not inundated with messages and whatnot. However, I think having an invisible (or appear offline) option would be a good idea for those that just want to go about and do their own thing without having to interact with other people. If I ever feel like not talking and just wanna play MSQ or just do some side quests quietly, and I get a message from someone in my friends list, I tend to say that I'm logging off because I don't want to offend them by saying I don't want to talk to anyone. Not everyone understands the need to be alone when you have a social disorder and I have in the past offended people because of it. I guess it's one of the reasons why I find it difficult to make friends. I love playing FFXIV but I don't always want to socialise with others.

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Originally Posted by BatLW

I don't understand why you would have people in your friends list who you want to hide from, especially when you mention them as "trolls" "finding you anyway".

Just get rid of people who you don't want to be surrounded with. everyone else should understand the BUSY Status.

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1) You don't know they are trolls or whatever when you add them
2) removing them from your friendlist doesnt remove you from their
3) Busy is like cutting your leg because it hurts sure it wont hurt anymore but i'd rather not rely on that
4) ignoring/refusing to do whatever your friends are asking for will end up with them no bothering asking you again.

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Originally Posted by Sesera

4) ignoring/refusing to do whatever your friends are asking for will end up with them no bothering asking you again.

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yes, that is a natural reaction to what is suggested based on the persons actions to not be social. that just like real life, if you ignore your friends they will stop reaching out.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

Look, some of us build groups of friends online. We also join FC's because we like to play with people. Sometimes though we would rather just bury our heads in the game without people bugging us to come join them or even just /tell-ing us stuff. This isn't to avoid random tells and messages, it's to disconnect from even established friends. We don't HATE them, but introversion is a thing, even online.

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Hey I know. I'm interovet myself, but that's how do I put this. Pointless? The busy icon works as intented, slap it on and no tells. I mean if people want to get ahold of you NOTHING is goign to stop them from sending you mail when tells don't work or whatever. If it's THAT bad either remove them/ log off/ or just tell them. " I'm not feeling well atm. I'll hit you back." Most people online understand HELL most people in this game back off from a simple " I'm good". I have to say this again.. PEOPLE DON'T TALK IN THIS GAME!!! LEtting the joke aside... I don't see the big deal with not using the busy icon.. it literally is the answer to your problems.

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Originally Posted by Insertcoins

Hey I know. I'm interovet myself, but that's how do I put this. Pointless? The busy icon works as intented, slap it on and no tells. I mean if people want to get ahold of you NOTHING is goign to stop them from sending you mail when tells don't work or whatever. If it's THAT bad either remove them/ log off/ or just tell them. " I'm not feeling well atm. I'll hit you back." Most people online understand HELL most people in this game back off from a simple " I'm good". I have to say this again.. PEOPLE DON'T TALK IN THIS GAME!!! LEtting the joke aside... I don't see the big deal with not using the busy icon.. it literally is the answer to your problems.

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For me personally, if I see that one of my friends has the /busy signal on, I do wonder what's up, and my natural reaction would be to ask if everything is OK once I could reach them (either in Discord or once the /busy is dropped). I've had friends react the same when I have my busy tag on. Having the option to simply go invisible would alleviate the additional conversations that come from this.

As others have mentioned already, sometimes you just want to have a moment of quiet to yourself for whatever reason without having to field any conversation. QoL updates a thing. Generally they're nothing major, just simple tweaks that make the overall gaming experience better in minor ways. This would fit into that category just fine.

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Originally Posted by Insertcoins

I just either log off or tell people I'll hit them up later. I don't see SE adding this in, not when most people .. WAIT stop. NOONE TALKS IN THIS GAME ANYWAY!!!?!???! You're lucky enough to get a damn "Hi" in dungeons... the buck.

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In random duties, sure. In linkshells/fc chat etc people are often much more social. Not to mention talking to friends.

Good QoL feature.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

In random duties, sure. In linkshells/fc chat etc people are often much more social. Not to mention talking to friends.

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I know my experience doesn't = everyone elses but I don't just mean in dungeons. Hell I'm in an FC and 3 linkshells and still... noone freaking talks. When I say "hi" it falls and dies in the void from SATAM never to be heard from again.