Please allow us to update the game without active subscription

So I know a friend who commented that they wanted to buy 30 days of subscription to try out ShB, but they lamented that they are going to lose out on 2-3 days of subscription time just trying to download the simply massive update (they've been away for awhile).

And that brought me to an idea -- why is it we cannot update the game and then sub up so we're not wasting a lot of our subscription on days we can't even play because we're still downloading?

You can copy the FFXIV files to a USB and ship it or transfer it for your friend.

You know to ship a 500GB data on hard drive by airplane is faster than Internet. This is true...

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Originally Posted by MiniTofu

You can copy the FFXIV files to a USB and ship it or transfer it for your friend.

You know to ship a 500GB data on hard drive by airplane is faster than Internet. This is true...

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Unless of course they live "across the pond" and then that comes into being... quite an expensive and time-wasting ordeal even to ship a USB drive overseas.

But really, this is such a basic thing, that expecting someone to sub up before they can begin downloading 12 GB of data is just....

... yeah. It's kinda ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by MiniTofu

You can copy the FFXIV files to a USB and ship it or transfer it for your friend.

You know to ship a 500GB data on hard drive by airplane is faster than Internet. This is true...

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How slow is your internet speed?!
500g would take me less than a day (assuming the sender isn't throttling their upload)

eum, even downloading 12 GB of data only takes like an hour or two.
My laptop got hit by the framerate bug introduced in shadowbringers and trying to fix it i reinstalled the game all 42 Gb of it. Took 5 hours.
Your friend must really have very extremely bad internet connection for it to take 3 days to download.
So to be honest i dont quite see the problem here?

hmmm a possible solution is creating a trial account :) ,log using trial account download and then log in with regular account :D

afaik trial accounts will update the full game anyway

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Originally Posted by Maeka

why is it we cannot update the game and then sub up so we're not wasting a lot of our subscription on days we can't even play because we're still downloading?

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probably the SE perspective: your sub only pays for access to the game, and the data is literally what you get once you have obtained access. I think your friend just needs to bite the bullet as 2-3 days lost of a 2 year expansion isn't a huge loss.

I never really understood this about FFXIV either, because all the other MMOs I've ever played update the game without having to log in with an active sub. I remember when I first bought the game a few years ago, and installed the launcher etc. thinking I'd get the game downloaded and updated before setting up my sub so I didn't waste a day of my sub downloading and patching, then was abruptly halted by being required to log in to the launcher with an active sub, I was like WTF...

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

hmmm a possible solution is creating a trial account :) ,log using trial account download and then log in with regular account :D

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Unless he has existing character, which the trial account won't see. Still, this is a good idea if you can install the trial to a different folder, then after it's downloaded and updated, copy the updated files into the active game folder. (Assuming you can find out which files to copy.)
One the updated game with original characters is up and running, close and uninstall the trial.

Assuming your friend loses the maximum of 3 days play time, it would result in a net monetary loss of $1.29 USD (assuming the $12.99 entry level subscription). So, just to be clear, your friend is lamenting the loss of a $1.29? If this is the case, maybe your friend shouldn't be gaming at all.

Have they played before? Trial accounts are awesome if they aren't above the trial level limit. If so, create a burner trial and update that way.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Unless he has existing character, which the trial account won't see. Still, this is a good idea if you can install the trial to a different folder, then after it's downloaded and updated, copy the updated files into the active game folder. (Assuming you can find out which files to copy.)
One the updated game with original characters is up and running, close and uninstall the trial.

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different accounts don't need different clients.
Create a trial account -> login to the trial account -> the launcher start to download the missing patches -> relog to the normal account after paying the sub -> all patches already downloaded

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Originally Posted by Maeka

So I know a friend who commented that they wanted to buy 30 days of subscription to try out ShB, but they lamented that they are going to lose out on 2-3 days of subscription time just trying to download the simply massive update (they've been away for awhile).

And that brought me to an idea -- why is it we cannot update the game and then sub up so we're not wasting a lot of our subscription on days we can't even play because we're still downloading?

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2-3 days?

I'm sorry but is he on borderline dial-up?

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

2-3 days?

I'm sorry but is he on borderline dial-up?

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Many people have 10Mbps or lower. At 10Mbps, downloading 12GB takes easily 3h during which time it is nearly impossible for you to do anything else online with your PC at the time. And some people have jobs, and a lot of times you don't even get the full potential of your download speeds. So maybe one such person might log on and have an hour or two that they could put into downloading.... and then the next day another hour or two, etc.

Not everybody can leave their computer on 24/7, some people have laptops that they need to take with them on the go, etc.

There could be many reasons.

Heck, I remember before I got comcast last year, I was stuck on 6Mbps. That would take almost 6 hours of downloading to get 12GB.