I should be able to have 2 Security Tokens attached to my SE Account

I should be able to have 2 Security Tokens attached to my SE Account.. I bought the first Security Token when SE announced that we could expand our gobbie bag in FFXI, granted we attach this extra security to our account. I understand the necessity of having extra security, but in all honest truth, this Security Token never leaves my computer desk in case I lose it. This causes me to not be able to access my account when I am away from my home PC. Now I have two Security Tokens due to the collectors edition being supplied with one. I would like to have both work on my account. I know it will dilute my security by half, but 1 in a million becoming 1 in 500,000 is still not that bad for the convenience of having an extra token that works.

Please, I am asking SE to allow the use of at least 2 Tokens at one time. In retort to a most definite response from everyone, please take a moment and consider the actual process it would take to replace a lost security token and how allowing more than 1 security token would be nothing more than an overall benefit.

not such a bad idea, as my token doesn't leave my computer either. Which makes it impossible to log into my SE account from anywhere else.

Mine is on my house/car keys :D since i dont leave them on my desk >.> and they usually always in my pocket.

Wouldn't it [theoretically] be possible to use the unique code on the back of your token to order a duplicate token, so that you'd have two that produce the same numbers? That seems like it'd be the easiest way to do what you want.

Seems like a hassle...keeping track of two tokens. I have a hard time keeping track of one. (Even though mine too always stays by my PC).

I have yet to want to sign in from somewhere else other than home. (I guess from my laptop while at university. But I don't trust my mac. That's a completely different story though).

Wouldn't something like a mobile authenticator sort of cover this issue, assuming you have a phone that would allow it? I think instead of doing something awkward like allowing two security tokens, just create a mobile authenticator app. This would also allow people security for free instead of paying the unit price and potential shipping for the security token.

what i would like to know is what happens when you token runs out of batteries or gets lost?

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Originally Posted by Swev

what i would like to know is what happens when you token runs out of batteries or gets lost?

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I've been wondering this as well. Kind of worries me.

Obviously if the battery dies you can't use it. I imagine the same applies if you lose it. Just a crazy guess.

If the battery dies or you lose it and you can no longer use it, then you can no longer log in to the game. To remove it from the SE account requires you logging in with it to begin with, so after you've lost it/the battery has died, you can't remove it either.

Maybe I should have worded it better to avoid snarky comments, so here goes. If the battery dies and we can no longer use the key, how then do we log in to our accounts?

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Originally Posted by Lilandria

Obviously if the battery dies you can't use it. I imagine the same applies if you lose it. Just a crazy guess.

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kinda rude and not to the point of the quesiton

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

If the battery dies or you lose it and you can no longer use it, then you can no longer log in to the game. To remove it from the SE account requires you logging in with it to begin with, so after you've lost it/the battery has died, you can't remove it either.

Maybe I should have worded it better to avoid snarky comments, so here goes. If the battery dies and we can no longer use the key, how then do we log in to our accounts?

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You just phone support.

Hmm, the companies I know that utilize this token aren't able to use multiple, so I'm assuming it's a limitation of the software itself -- This was in 2008 when we had ours issued however and could be different now but I'm pretty sure the digipass go is limited in nature.

Which comes to the question what are the average life span of these keys and what happens if they all run out at the same time lol?

That seemed to be exactly the point of the question.

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Originally Posted by Wilhelmina

You just phone support.

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Thank you, this makes sense. In this age of internet everywhere the idea to just call someone didn't even cross my mind...

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Originally Posted by Swev

Which comes to the question what are the average life span of these keys and what happens if they all run out at the same time lol?

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They last at least 10 years -- How people wear them out beforehand I've no clue.

rude sarcasm should not be aloud on the forums

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

They last at least 10 years -- How people wear them out beforehand I've no clue.

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More accurately 3~5 years, anything over that isn't usually a guarantee.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

They last at least 10 years -- How people wear them out beforehand I've no clue.

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Thanks, good to know

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I would really like some more feedback.. Most of the posts agree that the Security Token stays at their desk for safe keeping.. and I also hear that un-attaching a security token to an account is tedious.. I feel that the introduction of "Companies" will require logging into Lodestone and/or the forums more frequently.. and having my second Security Token activated would be nice :)

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Originally Posted by MHB3000

I would really like some more feedback.. Most of the posts agree that the Security Token stays at their desk for safe keeping.. and I also hear that un-attaching a security token to an account is tedious.. I feel that the introduction of "Companies" will require logging into Lodestone and/or the forums more frequently.. and having my second Security Token activated would be nice :)

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If you remove the security token from your account, you brick it. I'd recommend against doing that.

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Originally Posted by Wilhelmina

More accurately 3~5 years, anything over that isn't usually a guarantee.

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I have a watch that's been ticking for over six years without a change of battery. I would be very, very surprised if our authenticators run out of juice in anything less than 15 years.

Well, as for the life expectancy of my security token, I'm more concerned that my kitten will decide that since I play with it, she should play with as well. At which point it will end up in the water dish like all her other toys. Crap happens. Yes, we can call SE tech support/customer service. But for those of use who have had to deal with them before, it isn't exactly the most pleasant experience in the world. My past experiences with SE lend me to believe that if I were to call them I would spend a couple of weeks playing phone tag with people trying to find the person I need to talk to, only to be told that the first person I talked to should have helped me.

As for a second security token, I would love to have one. For a while, I had attached to my key chain so I could log into lodestone when I wasn't at home. I stopped doing that because my keys frequently aren't on me (other people borrowing them for the mail key, they get left in my jacket, the previously mentioned kitten plays with them, etc.) only now it is a pain in the but because I have to try and plan ahead and re-attach it to my key chain. The ability to simply have two would easy please-y.

Speaking of security tokens, are they run by like a battery? That will eventually run out?
Was just curious, didn't think about it until now. Anyone know?