The Giving Land

Hi, I would like to know others opinion on the new skill "The Giving Land"
At first I thought it would be interesting as I rarely need HQ and expected to receive a generous amount of crystals per hit.

However, as it turns out, it seems to only grant 1 Crystal per swing for a whooping 200pr.

The HQ cost doesn't bother me at all, but 200pr for a measly 4-6 cristals?

Is anyone using it?

I probably would use it when I'm farming mats for housing or don't necessarly need my GP otherwise. It is a nice gadget but probably not a tide-turning new way of farming crystals.

It looked interesting but it's already been removed from my hotbars. It needs to have its cost cut in half and rewards doubled, then it might be worthwhile. Maybe have the amount gained be based on perception of gathering.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

It looked interesting but it's already been removed from my hotbars. It needs to have its cost cut in half and rewards doubled, then it might be worthwhile. Maybe have the amount gained be based on perception of gathering.

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At the very least

If I need a low amount of stuff like 20-40 I'll use it. Thats about it.

It's virtually useless.

If you're farming mats, you're better off spending the GP on abilities to increase Yield so you're done faster or get more for your time. Slowing yourself considerably for a insignificant number of crystals is pointless.

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Originally Posted by Sylvain

Hi, I would like to know others opinion on the new skill "The Giving Land"
At first I thought it would be interesting as I rarely need HQ and expected to receive a generous amount of crystals per hit.

However, as it turns out, it seems to only grant 1 Crystal per swing for a whooping 200pr.

The HQ cost doesn't bother me at all, but 200pr for a measly 4-6 cristals?

Is anyone using it?

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I found a use for it... it stacks with the +2 crystals ability and if you farm crystals on a lower lvl node (I went into heavensward areas for lightning crystals) you'll see a quick rate of acquisition. Using both on a node with +1 or +2 gathering swings, I was getting 5 per hit so 25 to 30 crystals from those nodes, 20 from a standard 4-hit node.

Abilities that dump your HQ rate shouldn't have such high GP costs. Just saying.

If this ability cost 50 GP, I could see using it regularly when going for crafting mats. 200 GP is way too much.

I could see the 200 GP tag if the crystal/cluster it provided per swing was bumped by King’s Yield or the elemental Wards, but it is not. It is a straight up 1 crystal/cluster per swing.

I hit 800 GP I’ll consider using it while Collectible farming, to at least get something I can use in addition to my hand in. But, I’m not sure I’ll bother.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

If this ability cost 50 GP, I could see using it regularly when going for crafting mats. 200 GP is way too much.

I could see the 200 GP tag if the crystal/cluster it provided per swing was bumped by King’s Yield or the elemental Wards, but it is not. It is a straight up 1 crystal/cluster per swing.

I hit 800 GP I’ll consider using it while Collectible farming, to at least get something I can use in addition to my hand in. But, I’m not sure I’ll bother.

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I was getting 2 crystals per swing when I used it in HW areas. The level of the node or the item you are hitting may affect the yield.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I found a use for it... it stacks with the +2 crystals ability and if you farm crystals on a lower lvl node (I went into heavensward areas for lightning crystals) you'll see a quick rate of acquisition. Using both on a node with +1 or +2 gathering swings, I was getting 5 per hit so 25 to 30 crystals from those nodes, 20 from a standard 4-hit node.

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I must try this next time I need clusters.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

I hit 800 GP I’ll consider using it while Collectible farming, to at least get something I can use in addition to my hand in. But, I’m not sure I’ll bother.

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But 800 GPs was trivial at the end of SB.

What if it was just a buff that could be toggled, cost no gp but still nullified hq while active? I feel as though the hq nullification is more than enough of a cost.

Unless I need the HQ for a quest or something, I always reduce all HQ mats I get to NQ. So, I would think that some GP cost is appropriate. But the current GP cost is way high.

I also always reduce the materials I gather to NQ so I was glad to have an ability that would remove the HQ component for me and give me a little bump in return. But I would like it if the amount you gather per swing is a little higher OR if the GP cost was a little lower. I was getting 2 shards per swing while gathering granite last night so it may very well be the amount you get is determined by the node level.

For a lot of crafters, HQ materials are useless because you don't need them to reliably HQ beyond the highest level recipes available to you. They're a waste of inventory space, so we lower quality. Abilities like this are great for people like us.

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Unless I need the HQ for a quest or something, I always reduce all HQ mats I get to NQ. So, I would think that some GP cost is appropriate. But the current GP cost is way high.

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I'd always rather have the GP for whatever I'm gathering though considering how "frequently" I get to actually use some of the class skills with the time GP takes to get back.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

I'd always rather have the GP for whatever I'm gathering though considering how "frequently" I get to actually use some of the class skills with the time GP takes to get back.

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Earlier in the thread I suggested reducing its cost to 50 GP. That would be a fair point to put it at, IMO.

Current cost is way too high.

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Originally Posted by Nanami_Naniwa

I probably would use it when I'm farming mats for housing or don't necessarly need my GP otherwise. It is a nice gadget but probably not a tide-turning new way of farming crystals.

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When do you ever not need GP? If you're not doing collectibles, you can spend it on increased yield for the item that has you out there to begin with so you can get done sooner. There's simply no value to the ability as it stands.

If anything, the ability should just be a toggle. HQ frequently isn't important, and with the state crafting is in, it may not matter this entire expansion. Extra crystals or clusters instead of HQ mats that aren't worth extra gil would be welcome.

Well, there are times where I need only 1 or 2 of something i'm gathering so I don't really need the GP. I might as well get some shards while I'm at it.

The more I use the ability, the less...excited I am like I was when I first got it. It's also worth noting this ability doesn't work in tandem with yield increases. I'm glad they've recognized that there are times we don't care about HQ but it needs some tuning.

This skill is currently useless. It does not interact with any kind of yield increases... honestly this feels like a bug or an oversight.

I think people are undervaluing this skill quite significantly. The main skills we have to increase yield are King's Yield/Blessed Harvest and the Ward skills, both of which cost 400 GP. We have one-shot skills to increase yield for a single mining/harvesting attempt which cost 100 GP. At 200 GP, this skill guarantees crystals at every gathering attempt, regardless of what you're gathering. That means if you're gathering crystals, you get your normal yield plus extra crystals on top. In Lakeland i was getting a consistent 2 crystals on top of the normal 1 for the node, equalling Ward skills or King's Yield in terms of efficiency.

If anything I think this skill demonstrates how weak the ward skills are. They need a serious upgrade in my opinion.