"The Light of Inspiration" question for Devs

Hoping a dev sees this. The level 79 MSQ quest "The Light of Inspiration" requires you to have completed the role quest line for the job you are on in order to complete the MSQ quest, which is level 80. (We were warned this was coming, so I knew I'd hit it eventually, however....) In order to receive the 800K+ reward, you must have completed a level 80 quest. Obviously, if you're level 80, you can't receive the 800K+ reward.

The only way I can see to actually receive this reward would be if you leveled one job of a class to 80, did the role quest line, then leveled another of the same class (say, for instance, WHM and then SCH), then the level 79 quest would recognize you had done the quest line of the job you are on and give you the reward. Otherwise, you're simply eating 800K exp. So you would need to hit pause on the MSQ to level another job to 79.

You could say, well, it's just 800K. No biggie. Which I get, when the FATEs in the area are giving 300K, however...

Since I've heard this is the last level 79 quest before 80, and it has a prerequisite to complete a level 80 quest, why is this not just a level 80 quest to begin with? Just make it level 80, and give a warning at the beginning that to complete it you must have first completed your role quest line. This will save people a lot of head scratching, and possibly not cause players to pause near the end of the MSQ just to level up another job so they don't lose the exp. Some people might very well do that. I can't imagine that was the intent with this.

Yeah, it was kind of annoying that I couldn't turn it in even though I had it completed and was still the requisite level. Having it so that you absolutely can't complete it at level makes it a huge waste of exp, they should probably change the required level to 80.

It's most likely an oversight on their part.

lvl 79 area and fates only give 300k exp? is there something wrong with the exp rewards, because lvl 70 area fates also give 300k+ exp o.o

Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean why make us have to become 80 for a lv 79 msq quest? I didn't even notice the xp.

They said you have to complete 1 role quest..... not ALL, and now all MSQ 79 quests will just give 0 EXP (assuming this is not the last?)

This is so stupid.

It is the last lv 79 msq quest if i remember correctly. Though if you want the armero mount you'll have to do all of the role quests. Still it's a bit of a wait what kind of moment. Many aren't going to stop their msq progression just to get another job to 80 just so they don't miss out on the xp they give. Like everyone knew that we'd have the roadblock that is finishing the role quest, but I don't think anyone would have guessed it'd be how it is.

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Originally Posted by Minimoooo

They said you have to complete 1 role quest..... not ALL, and now all MSQ 79 quests will just give 0 EXP (assuming this is not the last?)

This is so stupid.

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You do have to -complete- one role quest. Complete meaning do every step of it, the last of which is 80.

That its tied to the second to last level 79 msq quest makes little to no sense.

Yeah seems a bit silly. Easy fix would be to make it a L80 quest, because it essentially is. Maybe they thought the cut between the 79/80 quests would be kinda abrupt if they did it at the start of that one or something? Since it'd kinda be in the middle of a quest "line"? Only explanation I can think of.

SERIOUSLY ANNOYING! I'm at least 15,000,000 XP away from lvl80 and it's telling me that I need to complete a locked 80 quest when this is CLEARLY a 79 MSQ. Just change Light of Inspiration to an 80 please and stop ticking us off.

Yea, that was a pretty questionable design choice. Suddenly needing to beat a lvl 80 quest for a lvl 79 quest...

I just hit Grenoldt for the MSQ lvl 79 quest and couldnt figure out why i couldn't do the quest. I had to google this thread to find out. Why do i Have to be 80? Why not make the lvl on the MSQ at this point lvl 80 and not wast people's time and frustrations?

Just pretend the Exp reward is not there. They will most probably remove it anyway, or turn the quest into Lv 80, rather than reworking any other thing.

I was pretty confused myself. It should have probably had a requirement of lvl 80 to begin with. Like someone has said already, it was probably an oversight.

Thank you OP! What the Hell, devs?! How do you miss that a lvl 79 quest requires that you finish a lvl 80 quest? My suggestion is to make the role quest 79 as well. It goes in 2's , and just changing the final quest would be a bit out of place. You could move the role quests to odd levels.

Dear developers,

I'm a fellow game developer myself. I totally understand how something like this could've made it into the final game. Shit happens...

THAT BEING SAID, this was such a huge screw up that I quit playing for about a week and nearly quit playing altogether, because I thought it was a bug in the MSQ system. This is a big deal, and it *seriously* should be fixed, and definitely warrants more than a half-ass generic response. Look around at the confusion and irritation this has caused to the players. I signed up for these forums just to complain about it.

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Originally Posted by GyroVorbis

this was such a huge screw up that I quit playing for about a week and nearly quit playing altogether, because I thought it was a bug in the MSQ system.

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You nearly quit playing... over a (perceived) minor bug in the system without even seeing if it was blocking your progress once you did what it asked you to do?

Anyway, as I said in another thread discussing this - it actually makes more sense set up the way it is. If you had to be Lv80 to begin the quest, you might have to leave the area, go level up elsewhere, come back to accept the quest... and near-immediately learn that you need to leave again and complete the role quest.

Telling you upfront that you need to clear the role quest just removes a potential layer of annoyance later on. You're immediately clear that you need to both reach Lv80 and complete the quest(s) which might even give you the EXP needed to level up.

Yes, I totally agree with OP. As I first brought up here, this quest should have been 80, not 79. It's a stupid design decision and can cause issues as everyone can see from some of the posts here. The devs really need to change it where you either cannot accept the quest until you are 80 and have the role questline done or divide the quest into two quests so the second half requires the level 80 and role questline complete. It will cause less confusion. It makes no logical sense to say a quest is level 79 but you can't beat it without actually being 80. If it needs to be beaten at 80, than don't label it as a level 79 quest when its not.

This... really seems like a very minor thing to complain about. Ok, so it's a level 79 quest that needs a level 80 quest to complete. So what? It also happens to be the final level 79 quest, so may as well just consider it the first 80 quest. It also plainly tells you you need to do your entire role questline, which you should have seen needs 80 for the final quest, so it's pretty clear that you need to be level 80 to do it...

This is no different from hitting a level requirement in the MSQ. They could make the quest a level 80 quest and nothing would have changed, besides the fact that you couldn't accept the quest at all.

In fact, it's GOOD that it's a level 79 quest. If it were level 80 and you came here at 79, oh damn you can't continue the MSQ until you're level 80, time to go do some roulettes and fates! Then you hit 80 and you go pick up the quest... oh you can't continue the MSQ till you do your role quest, which you've neglected to do and you need to go through the whole questline now. All that XP doing the role quests could have gone towards getting to level 80...

Since it's a level 79 quest, you can see, ok I need to do my role quests, guess I can go do them while getting to level 80. Even if you were diligent in your role quests and only have the level 80 one to go, you know ahead of time that you need to do it once you hit 80, saving you a trip to the quest giver to see what the next MSQ is. You can bet if this was a level 80 quest you'd just have people complaining that they had to level grind past a wall just to discover another wall...