How do you handle raid wipes?

For me if its the first few i am generally calm and try to figure something out but by the end of the night i can get like this especially if a bug/lag happens XD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQyhLZsw7e4

I am fine with raid wipes unless the mistakes that caused the wipes keep happening coz nobody is listening.

I would wipe the raid just to hear that song again. :)

It depends on the group honestly. If the group is abit more lax and everyone is on the up and up I'm just there and waiting to try again. Nothing for a playfully troll like me to do. If it gets abit heated I try to lighten the mood and get some laughs in there. Cause we're all people and I know we all hate dying but it happens you know? If I can get some people to smile and relax and try again so we can save the world... then I know I done my job. Cause seeing :D is way more fun then seeing " You stinking noob learn to play etc etc etc "

So lets do more :D and save the planet :D. It's on YOU to save the day.

In all seriousness, what really grinds my gears is when multiple people obviously didnt understand mechanics, and instead of stopping to go over what went wrong, the group just keeps pulling and the same mistakes keep happening over and over. That's when I just open the duty finder and click that 'leave' button, "nope I'm out".

In a static situation, sometimes you just have to be that guy, and speak up when people obviously aren't getting it. People can tell when someone in the group keeps making the same mistakes, and a lot of times no one wants to correct them and you get that awkward silent frustration. So you just have to be able to tell that person as nicely as possible what they are doing wrong and hopefully they dont get hostile towards you. If they are the type of person who doesn't take criticism well, then honestly they probably shouldn't be raiding.

A big problem I see in groups too is that some people really just have crappy internet connections and cant react properly to mechanics. That is tough situation because it really isn't their fault, but they are dragging everyone else down with them, so you kind of have to let the person know it's a problem and hopefully they are cool and just accept that they cant raid.

Click the rez button and try again

If people are actually trying to improve? Get up and keep going.

If people are screwing around and getting killed on purpose? Leave.

explain mechanics and encourage people that we got this

1. take a deep breath
2. use observation and reflection
3. trial and error
4. totes profit or study the encounter again and go back to step one

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Originally Posted by XenociderOmega

Click the rez button and try again

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This. If people can't handle trial and error, then XIV really isn't the game for them. I can't wait to wipe like 5 times to Titania because everyone is re-learning their hotbars.

Depends on what kind of group I am in.

Learning : work it out
Clear/farm : 3 wipes not caused by me, ditch
Static : work it out and optimise

How to handle raid wipes:


* Press the button to spawn back in
* Joke about it on discord
* Then discuss what went wrong
* Try again.

Bahahahahahah that song is awesome

I don't do Savage here but when I raided in the past in other games we just picked it up and tried again. Yeah we had some hairy situations and sometimes heated words were said, but apologies were made after and we were good again. The blame game doesn't help anyone, but proper root cause analysis does require that the progression of events be investigated. And sometimes that might meant that X person just screwed up. So long as everyone understands they're not playing with robots, it doesn't have to get nasty.

I punch a hole in my wall

Stand up dust myself off and go at it again

I have a three strike rule for just about any content I do, of course there are exceptions. If they show no sign of making progress or keep repeating mistakes I'll leave after the third wipe.

I scream at the top of my lungs that WoW is to blame for the wipe.

I only leave if I need to because of life outside the game or if people leave and it doesn't look like the party will fill up again. Otherwise, I have no problem redoing fights over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...again as long as the other people in the party want to.

The exception is if I'm the one causing the wipes. Then, depending on whether they're people I know or random or how I feel the other people are feeling, I may choose to leave before they kick me.

How do I handle raid wipes? Normally I wait till a heavy hitting cleave attack is incoming then flip the boss around at the last second to face the rest of the group, gets em every time!


Jokes aside I mainly just sigh and go back to it.

I'm fine with them so long as people try better the next time or ask for help if they need it. Sometimes a fight doesn't click with someone until they've been smacked around a little. I know it definitely doesn't for me, so I can't get mad at anyone for being of a similar learning style.

I am usually fine with a few wipes, but when there's a lot of wipes (like a stupid amount), I shout profanities at my computer screen, swearing at the characters on the screen when I see them mess up, but type in chat "We can do this guys, we almost have it :D"

Maybe it's a bit two-faced, but I need to vent and typing my frustrations in the chat would only make it worse, not better.
I don't quit the parties, maybe I should, but I kinda like hard-earned clears.

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Originally Posted by Gula

This. If people can't handle trial and error, then XIV really isn't the game for them. I can't wait to wipe like 5 times to Titania because everyone is re-learning their hotbars.

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Laughs in SAM

It happens, I am pretty observant and notice who is messing up what mechanics, we review the last pull someone recorded address the problem, do a dry run, move markers and continue on. If I mess up, I accept it ,and dont do that silent "I hope no one noticed it was me" thing people do.


I noticed Steve, I mf noticed lol

it depends on how the wipe is handled by others for me if someone is fuming and screaming at people I nope out the reason for this is twofold if i'm around it too much I start to devlop a negative view myself and I mess up everything.

just laugh... if it first 3 wipe

after that i just stay silent and look the situation, if many people are quitting, i probably follow

If there's a lala in the party, I usually sacrifice it for good luck.

Depends on the content, if it's not Savages or Ultimates, I usually just stay quiet unless someone else speaks up and then I'll try and explain what went wrong and how to fix.

But for Savages and Ultimates, I won't hesitate to tell or ask what happened and why it happened. Because trying to resolve wipe issues as soon as possible is extremely important in order for the team to make progress especially how much there are to learn in these fights, though i guess this is true for any content.

But in any content, I usually try to lighten the mood by /cheerjumping or laughing it off. It's ok, we all make mistakes lol

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Originally Posted by foussi

I am fine with raid wipes unless the mistakes that caused the wipes keep happening coz nobody is listening.

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Usually like this, tend to explain the mechanics again and try to morale up with a joke or something to keep the focus on.
After 3-4 wipes on the same mechanic, then is no use .

I don't mind as long as it is not because of some untimely rush-pulling as we can see in CT1, for example.

I really can't stand to lose time just because someone want that bad to rush over things he makes a whole party wipe.

I blame the other alliances.

Wipes are fine. Failing is part of the learning process and accidents happen even to competent groups. There are fights where all it takes is a brief moment of inattention and it's down the hole with half the party (*cough* Suzaku *cough*).

However, what isn't fine is usually some kind of human element dragging the party down. People who give up too easily and leave (often followed by other flakes if not immediately replaced) and people who refuse to improve and expect to get carried probably contribute more to the likelihood of repeated wiping than just the sum of their personal incompetence.

Wiping itself is easy to laugh off, but damage to morale is... awkward. I'm a very non-confrontational person and sometimes I feel so helpless when I see the problem but I'm too afraid to point it out because it might sour the mood ,_,

I generally don't mind raid wipes. I'm pretty patient when it comes to raiding tbh. Now what I don't handle well is people getting rude about raid wipes. Everyone learns at their own pace. For me I need to actually experience a fight to learn it. Watching videos and reading mechanics has never been a good way for me to learn I just can't retain it that way. Same with how I learn anything tbh I need to actually put it into practice myself and learn from my mistakes. I can generally pick things up within about 3 times of doing it.

Now if I make mistakes I own up to them and try my best to correct them. However if I'm in a group that just isn't getting it I'll stick it out through the end of raid time but if I can tell it's not going to be a good fit for me then I'll back out and find a different group to progress with. But I don't take it out on other people in the group and I generally keep it to myself but I will let the raid leader know that "hey this isn't working for me but thank you for having me." Although if I'm dying because someone is dropping mechanics on me I yell at my screen lol. But again that's kept to myself. What also annoys me is people that leave or rage ridiculously after one or two wipes, like chill if it's progression it's not that serious. You flipping out on everyone isn't helping and is actually most likely only making things worse. But like I said I'm pretty patience when learning. Now if something is considered a "farm" party and we're wiping left and right? Yeah I'm leaving before I waste my time lol.

Shot a wipe that is how we handle it.

Really depends if I feel my time is being wasted or not. Sometimes you have a bunch of sprouts who are just doing the fight for their main story then I can understand not knowing every single fight and that wiping is just part of the learning process, especially the fights where mechanics actually matter and aren't just faceroll like (Nabriales, Nidhogg, etc.)

But when you join a Lakshmi farm group and people are too lazy to YouTube the fight so they at least sort of know what's going on and they nuke half the raid with the cone and then proceed to do the EXACT SAME THING the next pull after being told what to do, I have zero patience for that.

I remain calm and try to spread positivity. Unless someone is refusing to learn. I have ran into too many players that get all uppity when presented with a better way to do things.

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How do you handle raid wipes?

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I throw a tantrum and ragequit while calling everyone noobs!

But seriously, I usually laugh it off or just rez and redo. Though I'll admit I have sadistic appreciation for clever trolling. If it's something clever that wipes the raid, I'll chuckle about it as I run back, maybe even /tell the person that I'm amused. It's hard to be clever with trolling in this game, though. Jury is still out on whether that's good or bad. ;)

I try again. but sometimes i drink beer and wrong all mechs...wont repeat that again.

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Originally Posted by Gurney

Shot a wipe that is how we handle it.

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Better liver than I do. I'd die of alcohol poisoning within the first hour.

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

Better liver than I do. I'd die of alcohol poisoning within the first hour.

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yea dude wen i drink brain play tricks on me...its like i know that im doing wrong, dont want mess things, want do right with all my heart and still miss

Normally I just {Doma Castle} and carry on, but if its one of those {Duty Completion} o11s Panto 2 Practice groups that is wiping at level checker then I die a little inside because I just can't get a clear.