Crit build

With all the crit dmg boost on the BLM AF and stuff like Black Pearl Rings and Mage's Choker, do you think it would be a good idea to go for a crit build?
Which weapon would be a good choice: Ivory Staff with crit potency melds, the new Aubriest's Whisper (even though it has m.acc-20) or maybe Ul'dahn Cudgel for another +30 crit rate?
And maybe even switch Blm body for improved Sorcerer's Robe? (depending on Excruciate boost)

Or would a m.atk/int/lightning potency build still be better?

I just bought a Vintage Cudgel that gives +22 Magic Crit Rate and 2 Black Pearl Rings... Critical hits deal waaaay more damage, and I think SE wants us to focus on that with the heavy crit potency oriented AF they gave us

You can get +114~116 Crit Chance with:

Uldah Cudgel
Sorc Robes
Warlock Satchel Belt
Mages Choker
Black Pearl Rings +1

Afaik from last patch that should be 10% Crit chance on Lv.50 mobs, less on bosses. Would have to do some testing but not sure that would be an optimal build for max DPS on bosses. INT + Crit Pot. boosted would probably be better.

Max Magic Crit Rate + on Coincounter yielded an average 9% critical increase. Crit Damage did not yield greater DPS than standard INT+MagPot.

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Originally Posted by Actus

Max Magic Crit Rate + on Coincounter yielded an average 9% critical increase. Crit Damage did not yield greater DPS than standard INT+MagPot.

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As expected, I think the crit + build would be for specific encounters where you need to mass time an excruciate crit attack to 1 shot very dangerous enemies in the future. Also crit rate is affected by dlvl so if you are dealing with lowbies it might change the outcome though I still think std INT+magic potency would be better in all cases.

Crit build might prove better with lots of lower level mobs (Princess), but def. not against a single high lvl one.

After doing some research I've noticed that standard int+piety (lowering resist) had an over all better outcome on single bosses rather than aiming for just crits. Although I can say that crit is very useful for things like thunder combos and such but abilities such as one hits like burst and flare (although flare can easily benefit from excruciate for multi targets) having a higher chance not being resisted and inflicting heavy damage is much more beneficial.

I'm really enjoying this thread though for aiming for better damage output!

Why would you bother w/ Piety? It does nothing worthwhile to BLM in it's current state.

As of now, all investment should be into AMP, Int, MA, & -Enmity. Once you have a solid base set of gear centered around those four attributes you can work on MCP. But properly incorporating MCP into your gear is still in it's early testing stages by a few.

Crit + gear effect came out to roughly 30 "+ crit" required to see a +1% increase in your actual rate when tested on R45 mobs in a 9000+ trial test Seiken and I performed. This was tested on melee swings, but we then performed a less rigorous test that seemed to show magic and physical crits follow similar patterns and formulas.

Given this, if you maxed out say a ~120 crit build, this would only give you a 4% true increase in your natural crit rate. This is assuming the per-point increase doesn't scale down as you increase dLVL.

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Originally Posted by Actus

Why would you bother w/ Piety? It does nothing worthwhile to BLM in it's current state.

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PIE affects Enfeebling magic which helps the accuracy/potency of Blizzard's Heavy effect, Blizzara's Bind effect, Thundara's Stun effect (out of combo only, I believe), and Flare's DoT.

Although you may have meant damage wise, so if that was the case disregard this :cool:

It was an attempt at sarcasm. I know exactly what it does. It just doesn't server any real purpose for what we do now.

I dunno, I like to use what little we have in the way of Enfeebles :)

[QUOTE=Estellios;628313]PIE affects Enfeebling magic which helps the accuracy/potency of Blizzard's Heavy effect, Blizzara's Bind effect, Thundara's Stun effect (out of combo only, I believe), and Flare's DoT."
Although this may sound true- Do you think the debuff of Melle job are effected by enfeebling??
I tested + 90 Earth potency and +28 potency ON PUG- and it did not increase the dammage done by Elemental fist-
Hence I was guessing enfeebling isn't even working at this point or enfeebling or pie doesn't even effect Stun bind dot-
I do know however It effect's sleep ---- For some reason blackmage with higher pie and enfeebling lend's Sleep much better then me having a very low pie and no enfeebling or pie gear at all- In dungeon i cast sleep mine get resisted a lot more then others even though I do have HIGH m.ACCURACY-

At first i though it would be Magic accuracy would be how much it landed and Enfeebling would be how long it would last or do just because of the logic of magic potency being how much it does and accuracy how often it lands.
I think it's more like Pie enfeebling is how much it does and if it lands- but i'am not quite sure on this one-

How are you coming to the conclusion that because Earth MAP doesn't add damage to Elemental Fist, that PIE doesn't effect stun, bind, or DoT even tho it increases enfeebling? Or am I not understanding your post? Magic accuracy only increases the chance of landing and not being resisted iirc. Not sure on exacts specs for enfeebling, but since enhancing effects the amount of regen per tic, or potency of stoneskin, I'd imagine enfeebs work the same for DoT etc...

Oh that is not true. We tested it on higher mobs, one of us INT Mind only, the other INt Piety, and I did more substained damage, and was not resisted , when all is into INt and mind, damage is reduced becuase you become resisted and have no magic penetration to work with. Piety actually helps in battles where thunder or ice is normal a weak element against the mob.

So BLM should gear for PIE as well?

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Originally Posted by kazaran

Oh that is not true. We tested it on higher mobs, one of us INT Mind only, the other INt Piety, and I did more substained damage, and was not resisted , when all is into INt and mind, damage is reduced becuase you become resisted and have no magic penetration to work with. Piety actually helps in battles where thunder or ice is normal a weak element against the mob.

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I'm not really getting what you are saying. how does PIE help with (damage) spells not getting resisted when it is MND that actually adds magic accuracy?

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

how does PIE help with (damage) spells not getting resisted when it is MND that actually adds magic accuracy?

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I'm hungry for his explanation... Anxious. Expectant. Eager. Avid.

PS. What's "magic penetration" on Final Fantasy XIV? o.o

Must have been penetrating very hard and deep with your... Magic.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

So BLM should gear for PIE as well?

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Some piety not all piety that was the misunderstanding. Helpful in certain runs and lower level, less when upper level or where enfeebling plays no role.

There is a reason restatting is given.