Will bards ever "sing" and play instruments

Will we ever get unique animations? Or do we will have to settle for the plain, generic and crappy hand in front of our face for ever?

LOL you say this like you have had to put up with it for months.

Animations will be worked on up until 2.0 and beyond.

I've been pushing it for a long time now.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ing-like-this.

Yeah, I was super excited about Bard and did the quests only to find out that there's nothing bard-like about it. I was horrified and distraught and almost quit until I remembered there's not a better modern MMO around right now, and that I love this fracking game too much to quit.

I really do hope they make it play music and sing for buffs because the spell animation is terrible and the class feels nothing like how a bard class is supposed to feel. Someone needs to get word to Yoshi-P to fix it and make a music system so I can play the Spirited Away theme where my LS hangs out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43Nd...eature=related

Bard should have been a future class. They could have given Archer another support job, one that better fits it.

I would have to agree, they should have made archer musketeer :D

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Originally Posted by Darkhaund

Will we ever get unique animations? Or do we will have to settle for the plain, generic and crappy hand in front of our face for ever?

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I would like them to sing or when we get the "Bow Harp" play that beast. But never do I want bard to be like it was in FF11.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

But never do I want bard to be like it was in FF11.

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Too late, it already is. In fact it's worse since you can only do one song instead of two.

I hope not I like it the way it is personally. The more bards you have the more bard aura's you can have.

Needs more sousaphones

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

Bard should have been a future class. They could have given Archer another support job, one that better fits it.

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What's funny is, since you say FFXI is a bad MMO and SE should take ideas from other MMORPGS that isn't FFXI Bard is usually unlocked through the Thief, Archer/Ranger or Assassin class tree, so you can't really say "one that better fits it" when according to almost every other MMO, Bard is the perfect fit for Archer.

Wants saxophone so I can play George Michael careless whispers in battle or a guitar so I can play some Santana during a boss fight.

what did you expect.. killing mobs smashing them with your lute? rofl

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Originally Posted by wolfsspirit

what did you expect.. killing mobs smashing them with your lute? rofl

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yes..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bab39KSIKQ

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Originally Posted by wolfsspirit

what did you expect.. killing mobs smashing them with your lute? rofl

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Yeah, something more sorta like this (not exactly of course) but see how the bard is playing an instrument? I hope they get it worked out in 2.0 to play instruments. And to be able to make music out of combat would be incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23o9Z...eature=related

We need more epic sax for Bard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHy7DGLTt8g

I was disappointed when doing the bard quests to find all my new abilities except one were stupid songs I'd never want to use. I'm a DD player, not a support player and I won't be your refresh bitch, nor are you having my TP. I don't think I'll ever be using BRD in a party setting. It's a shame SE has killed ranged DD. It's not even good solo since you need the distance to combo.

Why would you play a clearly support...nevermind.

I call dibs on ringing the triangle

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Too late, it already is. In fact it's worse since you can only do one song instead of two.

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Wrong, you misunderstand what I mean by that statement. I mean I don't want the bard to play like they do in FFXI. Also I like the fact I can only have one song up because it makes us able to have 3 bards in the party get full buffs and fill the space of a DD if need be. A bard should never only be able to just buff and not participate in battles in other ways as well. Though I would like to see more songs and actually see it sung or played on a harp than it be a simple casting animation.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

I was disappointed when doing the bard quests to find all my new abilities except one were stupid songs I'd never want to use. I'm a DD player, not a support player and I won't be your refresh bitch, nor are you having my TP. I don't think I'll ever be using BRD in a party setting. It's a shame SE has killed ranged DD. It's not even good solo since you need the distance to combo.

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Killed ranged DD's? My Bard is more powerful than my Archer. I outparse my Archer damage. I don't get what your issue is.

inb4garuda'sharp allows two songs

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Originally Posted by Xenor

I was disappointed when doing the bard quests to find all my new abilities except one were stupid songs I'd never want to use. I'm a DD player, not a support player and I won't be your refresh bitch, nor are you having my TP. I don't think I'll ever be using BRD in a party setting. It's a shame SE has killed ranged DD. It's not even good solo since you need the distance to combo.

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You do realize that Se has stated each class will have more tha one job later right? They could still very easily turn this into a different DD job later.

Ah this was the thread I was looking for.. Accidently posted what I wanted to say in a thread in the archer/bard section.

Please take a look at the 2.0 bard artwork:
http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...0_Specs_EN.pdf

Notice on the first slide we see the bard an his songbow in the first image released of jobs.

Now look at the fourth slide where a bard is holding a horn/flute type instrument... in his left hand.

It seems to me that we may be get instruments later as a subweapon catagory.
Interesting yes?

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I'd like to add that instruments would be a great addition. The songbow I feel is just going to be a musically themed weapon. I think that instruments may have a similar effect to XI's instruments that will allow 1 bard to stack more than 1 song. This would be great because when more jobs come out there will be less bards appearing in partys.

Here hoping to being a flute-toting band geek!

On another note... (no pun intended) Instead of pushing to play songs on your abilities, why not just leave that as is
and ask for a composer feature in your inn room

and a /recital emote for reciting your set composition.

The composer feature could be unlocked when people finish bard quests line in full, and its never too late to put in. (or maybe by crafting a grand piano for your room)

The Bard NPC in Tranquil has an animation for playing the harp already... I'm just assuming we don't have it yet because there aren't any Bowharps in the game yet.

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Originally Posted by Isaveron

Bard should have been a future class. They could have given Archer another support job, one that better fits it.

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I'll keep saying it. It should have been archer -> ranger

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Originally Posted by mikefmc

I'll keep saying it. It should have been archer -> ranger

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Id wait for musketeer on that one :/

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Originally Posted by Xenor

I was disappointed when doing the bard quests to find all my new abilities except one were stupid songs I'd never want to use. I'm a DD player, not a support player and I won't be your refresh bitch, nor are you having my TP. I don't think I'll ever be using BRD in a party setting. It's a shame SE has killed ranged DD. It's not even good solo since you need the distance to combo.

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1) The songs are great and make you even more needed in a group.
2) No your not a DD player because if you cannot do more damage on your bard then your archer then your doing it wrong.
3) You wont be able to use bard in a party setting because you probably don't get parties with this type of attitude.
4) Killed ranged DD? You sir don't know how to use your class efficiently.
5) Can't solo? My butt! Do you know what binding is? hmm, let's see maybe you build up tp. Run back pull off a bind combo. Pull off a stun combo. Pull off a blood letter combo. Oh wait it's dead...

Seriously did anyone even read what I said like 5 posts up? -.-

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Originally Posted by DyskoFox

1) The songs are great and make you even more needed in a group.
2) No your not a DD player because if you cannot do more damage on your bard then your archer then your doing it wrong.
3) You wont be able to use bard in a party setting because you probably don't get parties with this type of attitude.
4) Killed ranged DD? You sir don't know how to use your class efficiently.
5) Can't solo? My butt! Do you know what binding is? hmm, let's see maybe you build up tp. Run back pull off a bind combo. Pull off a stun combo. Pull off a blood letter combo. Oh wait it's dead...

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You need to understand, it's much easier to complain about how a class sucks then to learn how to actually play it.

Haters gonna hate.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Too late, it already is. In fact it's worse since you can only do one song instead of two.

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Consider this zet. In xi a bard with out a instrument of any type was only able to support one song as well.
as it is now Barcher is with out there barb. Perhaps once you guys have access to your bow from cybertron you just might have the ablity to keep two buffs up

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Originally Posted by Colino

You need to understand, it's much easier to complain about how a class sucks then to learn how to actually play it.

Haters gonna hate.

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Fact, you sir get a +1

My fricking goodness people can you please read my post on the last page, it may enlighten you as to the future of bard.

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Originally Posted by AceofRains

My fricking goodness people can you please read my post on the last page, it may enlighten you as to the future of bard.

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you have to just let them argue it out, friend...no use trying to stop a train with your bare hands.

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Originally Posted by BrusselSprout

you have to just let them argue it out, friend...no use trying to stop a train with your bare hands.

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Touche...
>.< damn derailment of human progress.

Instead of clogging up BRD inventory with sub weapons and instruments etc, simply have the songs you learn come with the instrument itself animation wise.

Example if you use Ballad, the BRD pulls out a harp and plays on it while song is cast, if you use Minuet the BRD plays a lute etc.

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Originally Posted by Choyi

Instead of clogging up BRD inventory with sub weapons and instruments etc, simply have the songs you learn come with the instrument itself animation wise.

Example if you use Ballad, the BRD pulls out a harp and plays on it while song is cast, if you use Minuet the BRD plays a lute etc.

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Because one measly subweapon is going to clutter your 200 slot inventory with even more storage on your retainer right?

I rest my case.

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and really were going to start pulling guitars from our hind quarters?

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Originally Posted by Choyi

Instead of clogging up BRD inventory with sub weapons and instruments etc, simply have the songs you learn come with the instrument itself animation wise.

Example if you use Ballad, the BRD pulls out a harp and plays on it while song is cast, if you use Minuet the BRD plays a lute etc.

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They could be rainbow-light instruments that you conjure with your fabulousness.

BRD is a sorely needed Support job. Everything about it is a plus.

If you want damage then wait for musketeer or play WAR (WAR does shitloads of destruction).

BRD has to exist tho: Mages need mp sustainment from a reliable source-this allows for more complicated/involving battles.

Let's face it: tank n mages exist symbioticly, if you drop either from the party equation during an intense battle... Defeat occurs-support classes like BRD keep tanks n mages top shape so they can continue to support the pty

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Originally Posted by mikefmc

I'll keep saying it. It should have been archer -> ranger

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You keep saying and that is the point. By the way who is to say it won't be Ranger in the future as well considering classes are going to become more than one job in the future. Bard is far more useful at this point in the game for party play. Also Musketeer is due out and it could also be made into a Ranger. Guns are much better for Ranger imo.