Viera Ears; Headpiece [REQUEST]

Hey there folks,

I'm putting forward the idea for there to be a new headpiece that is based on the Viera's ears. Not a copy, simply based on them. I understand that we have two sets of 'rabbit ears' both for which can be obtained by the goldsaucer - however, these rabbit ears look increasingly tacky, and novelty; which I suppose is the idea Square was going for, at least in regards to novelty, when compared to the Viera's ears which are fuller in shape.

The new release of Viera has shown significant work on the ear department. As you know, the Viera's ears are well designed and appealing. As you also know Viera is gender locked. Some of us don't wish to switch to female Viera, and prefer to be on male toons - or perhaps do not find the body type of female Viera to be appealing, but finds their ears to be so and wish to have something similar as a glamour piece.

Further so, my wants are for ears based on Viera's to be added and to be like the 'horn' headpieces which are simply horns attached to the head without the headband. I wish the ears to be attached to the head, and not have anything that joins them together; is the case with the golden saucer ears. There are two sets of horns, one of them rather recent that can be obtained thy PVP that are like this, the other is ultima horns.

An explanation; the gold saucer ears have a metal tiara like joining that shows above some hairstyles making it look awkward. Due to the texture of the ears, they also do not dye particularly well with dyes and clash with the hair.

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The Viera ears are broader and fully shaped, they are obviously made from fur and thus look well with hair as they are designed to do so, and they have distinct turfs of hair at the base and top. I believe that selling a pack of these mock Viera ears in the mogstation would be lucrative. And while it may not fix the issue with some individuals wanting male Viera, it can appease some and also have others who do not plan to switch to Viera to also enjoy similar looking 'honourary Viera ears'.

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So, I would like to request that there be a release in headgear that is a level 1 glamour item; perhaps from the Mogstation or otherwise to be released in celebration of Viera finally being released. Obviously, I don't wish for the ears to be gender locked or race locked. Everyone should enjoy them.

Thank you for any support or criticisms you may have. I apologise however that this will not solve the situation with Male Viera or Female Hrothgar, but it's at least something in regards to Viera. Due to the 'forwardness' of the ears on Hrothgar, I am unsure if this would look good due to the massing clipping.

Note; This request is to have a headpiece that is based on Viera's ears; not a direct copy but similar. However, I would not object to a direct copy but I would prefer them to be different somewhat.
Tldr; Please can we have another set of bunny ears that are based on the Viera's ears?

Note II: This is not the place to argue about genderlocks, minorities and majorities in regards to male Viera. Please keep that at the door.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

So you want the appeal of a Viera without being a Viera?
May as well give out muscle suits and cat tails while we're at it.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Unfortunately, I can't play as a male Viera ^^

I don't see a problem with adding Viera like ears. Just like I don't see an issue with some of the horns being similar to au'ra horns, or the wolf/fox ears that are similar to that of Miqo'te. Muscle suits, already exist with some of the existing armours. As for tails. All we have is a bunny tail/wolf tail - and some other tails that are part of the armour thy design. But I know you're simply having a jab. I thank you for your comment none the less as you have brought up a con.

Why have the ears when you can just be a Viera, and wouldn't this take away from them?
I don't think it would since the ears would be very much different and certainly wouldn't be as good as the real deal. The dye system certainly wouldn't be able to beat the actual character creators hair colour matching. The other argument is that the females are currently gender locked; and thus allows males to at least partake in one of their characteristics, which already exists in the game - in the form of the gold saucer ears - but to have higher quality rabbit/bunny ears.

Furthermore; a headpiece is a lot more reasonable than adding in tails, or 'ahem' muscle suits - due to how the models work. Any 'muscle suits' would be armour alone, and honestly could be added as gag armour. Tails would have to be linked into the bottoms as they always have. So, the headpiece is actually extremely reasonable.

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You have my support.

I second this. We have the Werewolf Head, which is similar to viera ears.

It covers your real ears with hair, putting alternative ones further up. If they were just a little taller they would pass as male Viera ears on a Hyur or Elezen.

It's an ideal compromise to help satisfy those who want male viera.

Make the ears lopped and you have my support.

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So you want the appeal of a Viera without being a Viera?
May as well give out muscle suits and cat tails while we're at it.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

So you want the appeal of a Viera without being a Viera?
May as well give out muscle suits and cat tails while we're at it.

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Unfortunately, I can't play as a male Viera ^^

I don't see a problem with adding Viera like ears. Just like I don't see an issue with some of the horns being similar to au'ra horns, or the wolf/fox ears that are similar to that of Miqo'te. Muscle suits, already exist with some of the existing armours. As for tails. All we have is a bunny tail/wolf tail - and some other tails that are part of the armour thy design. But I know you're simply having a jab. I thank you for your comment none the less as you have brought up a con.

Why have the ears when you can just be a Viera, and wouldn't this take away from them?
I don't think it would since the ears would be very much different and certainly wouldn't be as good as the real deal. The dye system certainly wouldn't be able to beat the actual character creators hair colour matching. The other argument is that the females are currently gender locked; and thus allows males to at least partake in one of their characteristics, which already exists in the game - in the form of the gold saucer ears - but to have higher quality rabbit/bunny ears.

Furthermore; a headpiece is a lot more reasonable than adding in tails, or 'ahem' muscle suits - due to how the models work. Any 'muscle suits' would be armour alone, and honestly could be added as gag armour. Tails would have to be linked into the bottoms as they always have. So, the headpiece is actually extremely reasonable.

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I've hit posting limit so I have to edit this post. I hope you understand.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

No way. The only unique things about the Viera really are their ears. You argue horns in the game as saying Au Ra have horns. They also have scales, tails, unique mouths, and unique eyes. So far all we have really seen about our bunny girls is that they have ears. No special foot pose outside their starting armor, no tails. Adding Viera ears to the shop so anyone could use them would take away the whole identity so far for them.

You guys just need to wait to see if they eventually add Male versions and in the meantime, stop trying to force obvious alternatives.

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I'm not trying to force anything; it's a request and nothing more. I have high hopes that Viera has a lot more to them than their ears; especially seeing as we already do have some type of rabbit ear available. I can't make more judgment until I fully see what the female Viera have to offer in regards to stances and animations. I only know what the rest of us know, which is they have a unique height, longer hair options and the rabbit ears.

Thank you for the post none the less as the argument regarding Au'ra having more than just their horns was justified.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

So you want the appeal of a Viera without being a Viera?
May as well give out muscle suits and cat tails while we're at it.

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Why not? Apparently making new races is too problematic for the continued development of the game. Added glamour piece which in effect create new races is perfectly reasonable, and quiet frankly makes more sense.

No way. The only unique things about the Viera really are their ears. You argue horns in the game as saying Au Ra have horns. They also have scales, tails, unique mouths, and unique eyes. So far all we have really seen about our bunny girls is that they have ears. No special foot pose outside their starting armor, no tails. Adding Viera ears to the shop so anyone could use them would take away the whole identity so far for them.

You guys just need to wait to see if they eventually add Male versions and in the meantime, stop trying to force obvious alternatives.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

No way. The only unique things about the Viera really are their ears. You argue horns in the game as saying Au Ra have horns. They also have scales, tails, unique mouths, and unique eyes. So far all we have really seen about our bunny girls is that they have ears. No special foot pose outside their starting armor, no tails. Adding Viera ears to the shop so anyone could use them would take away the whole identity so far for them.

You guys just need to wait to see if they eventually add Male versions and in the meantime, stop trying to force obvious alternatives.

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The rationale you are using to make your point can equally be used for the opposite.... Basically Viera are tall Hyur with bunny ears. So why didn't they just make bunny ears in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

The rationale you are using to make your point can equally be used for the opposite.... Basically Viera are tall Hyur with bunny ears. So why didn't they just make bunny ears in the first place.

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They basically are and that's part of the problem. They have a bit more of a smooshed face but the ears are their only true identity. So let them have it.

Ear gauntlets.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

They basically are and that's part of the problem. They have a bit more of a smooshed face but the ears are their only true identity. So let them have it.

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When I put my fictitious "game dev" hat on, my goal would be; how do I deliver content to make the most people happy. Personally, I dont think what Yoshi P chose did that.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

When I put my fictitious "game dev" hat on, my goal would be; how do I deliver content to make the most people happy. Personally, I dont think what Yoshi P chose did that.

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Except if you look on places like Reddit and outside the angry Male Viera rabbit hole, most people are happy. There are a handful of people who are being loud in this distaste for the genderlocked races - and that's perfectly fair and understanding for them - but they are not the whole majority. Remember; people come online and other places to complain way more than people come to praise. The ultimate appeal of the Viera in the beginning were to play what we already knew about them; female rabbit humanoids. That's exactly what was delivered. Thanks for this new LL, more and more people are even excited about how great the Ronso are looking. I hate to say it, but those bothered by the male viera are not the majority.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

Except if you look on places like Reddit and outside the angry Male Viera rabbit hole, most people are happy. There are a handful of people who are being loud in this distaste for the genderlocked races - and that's perfectly fair and understanding for them - but they are not the whole majority. Remember; people come online and other places to complain way more than people come to praise. The ultimate appeal of the Viera in the beginning were to play what we already knew about them; female rabbit humanoids. That's exactly what was delivered. Thanks for this new LL, more and more people are even excited about how great the Ronso are looking. I hate to say it, but those bothered by the male viera are not the majority.

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I thank you for your post, disagreement is just as good as the agreement so we don't get an echo chamber going on. However, I don't wish this thread to be harping on about 'male viera' - I simply stated it as yes, it is part of my desire to play as a Viera. I enjoy their aesthetics. Unfortunately, I don't enjoy female characters and thus I can't enjoy the aesthetics. My desire to have something similar to said aesthetic is what drives me to post this suggestion. Again. I thank you for your comment. But I am not wanting this thread to launch into majority vs minority regarding male viera, when this is a request for everyone to have the opportunity regardless of race and gender to enjoy some ears that are based on the Viera's as an upgrade to the goldsaucer ears that exist; if you see my previous comment I posted I edited my response regarding the au'ra horns as well, just in case you missed it.

If this continues to turn into an argument then I will honestly just ignore individuals; all I'm interested in is this request on similar ears being stocked in the mogstation for glamour.

ah, P.S just going to repeat that this thread is a mere request/suggestion for glamour. This is not a demand or a screaming of self-entitlement. I'm well aware of time constraints and restrictions and do not demand that this be implemented or be done quickly. Any argument including male Viera is simple reasoning that for those who desire to have ears similar to this; they have to be a) viera and b) female - until we hear more information in the far future about possible gender restrictions being lifted.

Keep it civil folks.

We have the tamamo ears and the werewolf ears, I guess "some sort of bunny ears" could be a nice addition (real-looking ones and not the Gold Saucer ones) without being a carbon copy of the Viera ears. Just something alike.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

I hate to say it, but those bothered by the male viera are not the majority.

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alot of things in this game are not the majority but we still get pvp,savage raids,New things at GS and now even ultimate raids

This is what Viera should have been in the first place...

Wish I could give this post more likes, because I'm fully in favor. I really loved how the werewolf ears worked, and it'd be awesome to see something similar to viera ears using the same kind of model.

I'd also be fine if they gave out miqo ears and tails as gear pieces. :3 Sharing is caring, no need to keep the good stuff to ourselves.

Bunny ears exist in the gold saucer. So Im not sure why there is a demand for more "original" bunny ears. I dont really understand the impatience.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Bunny ears exist in the gold saucer. So Im not sure why there is a demand for more "original" bunny ears. I dont really understand the impatience.

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I believe I stated the reason why in my first post. And have compared the reasoning why I desire more quality ears when compared to the goldsaucer ears. In the meantime, I'm very patient regarding this, as I stated I have no desire or imaginations that this takes precedence over other elements of the game. Even if male Viera was added I would still purchase such ears for glamour on other races.

Support Bump.

SE should give us viera ears until they can make male viera playable

If you want to be a Viera, just roll a Viera.

There aren't any headpieces that uses the same model as one used by one of the playable races. While there's several horn headpieces, they don't use the same horns as Au Ra. There's fox and wolf ears (both not used by any of the playable races). There's the GS bunny ears that definitely don't look the same as Viera ears.

And if you're that impatient about being a male Viera, roll a female one and set the bust size to 0, pick some options that makes it so your character looks closer to a male, and pretend that you're playing a male Viera. Works for plenty of people on Balmung.