finished a arrb but can't get 'before the dawn quest' where is it?

level 52. I've finished entire main scenario quest line for ARR. I bought all the expansions and registered them etc.

the ishgard gate guard says I need to complete the "before the dawn' quest. But I can't find the 'before the dawn' quest giver.. seems invisible.

this also is affecting my spells. I can't get my level 52 spell because the NPC just isn't visible. I suspect its because I need to unlock the expansion :|

so... what gives? I'm confused as to what to do next :\

any ideas?

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Originally Posted by sf23

level 52. I've finished entire main scenario quest line for ARR. I bought all the expansions and registered them etc.

the ishgard gate guard says I need to complete the "before the dawn' quest. But I can't find the 'before the dawn' quest giver.. seems invisible.

this also is affecting my spells. I can't get my level 52 spell because the NPC just isn't visible. I suspect its because I need to unlock the expansion :|

so... what gives? I'm confused as to what to do next :\

any ideas?

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Do you have your MSQ tracker enabled?

Are you sure you have truly finished ARR's main story, specifically the patch stories? (ARR's original story continued beyond it with five successive patches, each one continuing on from the previous one, which 'Before the Dawn' is the final quest for the final patch scenario).

Check your journal under 'Completed quests' and 'Main Scenario' and 'A Realm Reborn/Heavensward', and if it lists the quest 'The Ultimate Weapon' as the last quest you have completed, then sadly you still have a fair way to go til you can get to Ishgard. If this is the case, go back to the Waking Sands at Vesper Bay and Minfilia should have a new main story quest for you.

looking in my completed journal.

Main Scenario (DONE) (even saw credits when I Finsihed this one )
Seventh Astral Era main Scenario quests (17/30)
Heavensword 0
Dragon song 0
post-dragon song 0

between replies here and googling I suspect I have to do all the seventh astral era main quests first? before I can get the 'before the dawn' quest.

But I want to call out this same bottle neck, 30 additional quests... is now blocking me getting my level 52 class spell quest.

There's about 100 quests after The Ultimate Weapon to reach Before the Dawn so you have a ways to go.
You'll get more credits after Before the Dawn as it's the end of the ARR patch quests leading into Heavensward.

While it's true you can't get your 52 class skill until you reach the expansion you also won't unlock any content that has you above 50 until the expansion anyways.
(Palace of the Dead will let you go to 60 before then, but it also lets you use job abilities you haven't done the quests for so it's alright).

the steps of faith is the last duty before HW. If you are up to Snowcloak you have pretty much started the HW Prologue.

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But I want to call out this same bottle neck, 30 additional quests... is now blocking me getting my level 52 class spell quest.

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"blocking me getting my level [xx] class spell quest" isn't really a compelling argument since you can't do any syncked content where you would be able to use that action anyway. It's not usable in content until you reach HW, so it's fine for it to require that you are in HW content.

Now, the quest series from 2.0 completion until 2.55 completion, that should be streamlined for its own sake simply because it is at times a slog.

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But I want to call out this same bottle neck, 30 additional quests... is now blocking me getting my level 52 class spell quest.

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Just remember, even if you could get your skills, they won't be available in synced duties until you're in HW content.

It's all one linear story. Exp rewards have been boosted in a lot of it, because it's old content now, so yeah, you're going to out-level it unless you're spreading out over multiple jobs. But, since you've got to progress through the whole story anyway, it's not like it truly holds you back from anything.

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But I want to call out this same bottle neck, 30 additional quests... is now blocking me getting my level 52 class spell quest.

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I feel you friend, I'm level 60 and the Scions still have a femroe member. Although I'm ready to do the Chrysalis so that should be remedied soon :p

There's a credits roll at the end of each story arc but you're not done. Keep going with the main scenario quests.

Basically never stop doing main scenario quests in this game if you haven't finished all that are currently available or you'll be gated out of other content.

The msq will lead you into Ishgard when you get far enough.

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You do realize this topic has been posted by someone who hasn't gotten through the patch stories yet? Might want to edit that.

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level 52. I've finished entire main scenario quest line for ARR. I bought all the expansions and registered them etc.

the ishgard gate guard says I need to complete the "before the dawn' quest. But I can't find the 'before the dawn' quest giver.. seems invisible.

this also is affecting my spells. I can't get my level 52 spell because the NPC just isn't visible. I suspect its because I need to unlock the expansion :|

so... what gives? I'm confused as to what to do next :\

any ideas?

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As others have told you, you still have a lot of quests to go through before you are finished with the ARR content. Just keep following the MSQ like you have been doing.

But just out of curiosity, why did you go to the Ishgard gate guard in the first place? What made you think that was the place to go? There shouldn't be anything in the game telling you to go there yet.

i have gone through all the expansions and am now in the endwalker expansion but want to level the 2nd job but can't because it claims I have to do before the dawn again and I've already gone past it on my main class so how do I get my other jobs past it

What class are you talking about?
I can only speculate that you are reading something about Dark Knight, Machinist, or Astrologian ... which require you to have finished that quest. But only in the sense that their class trainers are located in Ishgard. And that you can't enter Ishgard without having finished that quest.
But looking at your Lodestone ... you HAVE unlocked Astrologian, and are up to Endwalker in the MSQ, so ... I'm stumped on what you mean.

(Also, don't bump ancient threads, even if they sound super relevant.)

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What class are you talking about?
I can only speculate that you are reading something about Dark Knight, Machinist, or Astrologian ... which require you to have finished that quest. But only in the sense that their class trainers are located in Ishgard. And that you can't enter Ishgard without having finished that quest.
But looking at your Lodestone ... you HAVE unlocked Astrologian, and are up to Endwalker in the MSQ, so ... I'm stumped on what you mean.

(Also, don't bump ancient threads, even if they sound super relevant.)

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I have a lv 85 white mage healer, stuck on tower of Zod, and I can't get my summoner/scholar class quest till I do the before the dawn quest which I already completed, the summoner quest allowed me to get the egi's because id already killed them,but it wont allow me to do lv 55 class quest on non main classes/jobs

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I feel you friend, I'm level 60 and the Scions still have a femroe member. Although I'm ready to do the Chrysalis so that should be remedied soon :p

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I still can't get over how

Noraxia was around longer than Moenbryda.

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But I want to call out this same bottle neck, 30 additional quests... is now blocking me getting my level 52 class spell quest.

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I was level 58 on my alt by the time I got access to Heavensward. I'm now mostly through level 60 after doing ONLY the Main Story quests for the first two HW zones, and hunt logs + dungeons needed for GC promotions to unlock my squadron.

I was sitting on 1500+ Poetics at level 52 after buying all my lvl 50 gear with no way to access Rhalgr's Reach to get the level 60 stuff. I'm going to be going through 95% of the HW MSQ line in lvl 60 crafted gear, with no way to access my lvl 61+ class quests, maxed on tomestones, and likely hitting level 67 to 70 by the time I'm done with HW.

I feel your pain, but it is what it is. All those extra quests are from content patches post 2.0 that were doled out in small chunks and were a lot easier to handle at the time. At least they cut down the number of them significantly and streamlined the process.

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and I can't get my summoner/scholar class quest till I do the before the dawn quest which I already completed, the summoner quest allowed me to get the egi's because id already killed them,but it wont allow me to do lv 55 class quest on non main classes/jobs

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Is that actually the entirety of what it's telling you, or just the part you're reading and there are other parts you're glossing over? Do you have your soul stone equipped?

Also... there is no level 55 job quest. Job quests in HW were every even level.

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I have a lv 85 white mage healer, stuck on tower of Zod, and I can't get my summoner/scholar class quest till I do the before the dawn quest which I already completed, the summoner quest allowed me to get the egi's because id already killed them,but it wont allow me to do lv 55 class quest on non main classes/jobs

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... are you attempting to do the Summoner quest on Scholar? Or the Scholar quest on Summoner? They're separate questlines.

My other guess is that you haven't actually finished all the lower-level job quests. Like, you have to do the level 50 Summoner quest before you can do the level 52 Summoner quest. (And the 50 Scholar quest before you can do the 52 Scholar quest. Again, separate questlines.)

I have a feeling that whatever's wrong we could determine in an instant if we saw what you were seeing; but from your description I can only guess.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59495916298998

both schlor and summoner need next quest and cant
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59495916298998
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59495916298998

completed list
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2965276&type=3

Well, all I can think of is that some of the 50-60 SMN/SCH quests are given by a different NPC. Although you should have been guided straight to them.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...ummoner_quests
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...scholar_quests

Go talk to all the NPCs mentioned. Presumably you just forgot where you were. [Even though the job quest should be linked in the upper left.]

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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59495916298998

both schlor and summoner need next quest and cant
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59495916298998
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...59495916298998

completed list
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2965276&type=3

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Yes, that's just the general message when you complete an expansion's set of job quests. It's not literally telling you you are restricted from accepting the next quest. What is more important/relevant is what the quest window says when you talk to the NPC that gives the quest, which will indicate in red exactly what requirements you are missing.