Modding the game

What are the rules in regard to modding FFXIV? Just cosmetic mods like hairstyle and makeup (that only I can see anyway), HD textures, etc?

I believe its no big deal as long as you keep it mostly to yourself and don't go bugging people about it. If I recall right, SE is in a bit of a grey area about this.

Technically, everything concerning mods is forbidden.

From official side, it's against ToS, since you change game files so you can be warned and banned for this.
Still, system does not really check files so you can be okay with mods as long as you don't mention that you use them in game and don't post your screenshots with modded items on Official Forum or in Social Networks with your game info and probably with SE copyright label. Hovewer, there are mods that I personally find kind of dangerous for company from copyright side: those items ported from other MMOs like BDO or B&S specifically. I'm not against modding as an idea but seriously, people should turn on their brain when they do things.

Don't do it. But since there is no anti cheat they have no way of catching you unless you admit to doing it in their chats and someone reports you.

Also, its at your own risk ; the game files are modified by the mods and it can make it so your game can't even start anymore and you have to reinstall everything.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

From official side, it's against ToS, since you change game files so you can be warned and banned for this.
Still, system does not really check files so you can be okay with mods as long as you don't mention that you use them in game and don't post your screenshots with modded items on Official Forum.

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Wait, does that mean I should be reporting 50% of people on the "Show your x!" forums, as some of them are clearly using modded shaders/textures in some of them.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Wait, does that mean I should be reporting 50% of people on the "Show your x!" forums, as they are clearly using modded shaders in some of them.

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if you wanna be that guy sure

I won't, but some harmless modders posting pics should be aware that someone could use it against them.

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Originally Posted by Helenii

What are the rules in regard to modding FFXIV? Just cosmetic mods like hairstyle and makeup (that only I can see anyway), HD textures, etc?

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No mods at all are allowed. No exceptions.
However, it is unlikely anyone is actually going to care if you use purely cosmetic mods, but they are still technically against the rules.

Nothing is allowed officially, but there's an informal "mum's the word" policy in place. The same goes for parsing.
With modding exercise extreme caution when modding copyrighted materials or NSFW content into your game, because those are the things Square is mostly likely to act on if you go sharing screenshots on social media or whatever.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Wait, does that mean I should be reporting 50% of people on the "Show your x!" forums, as some of them are clearly using modded shaders/textures in some of them.

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I dont think somebody is that "brave" enough to post screenshots of their modded characters in this forum.
Reshade is not a mod... .

No mods are allowed.

However, it's a simple thing like with any other MMO, don't talk about it, don't mention it, and nobody cares.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I dont think somebody is that "brave" enough to post screenshots of their modded characters in this forum.
Reshade is not a mod... .

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There... actually were some. But it was quite long ago so I probably will not be able to find them now. I remember it were a pics with modded eyes texture tho.
Reshade is not even really a 3rd party tool tbh, because it doesn't change anything in game, it works more with video card.

Its against the rules to use mods.

However if you do use mods just don't talk about it or share screenshots on here.

I have seen plenty that share on Reddit.

For the most part most are harmless and actually do a really good job at improving the game, such as improving facial models, hair, and even eyes.

I wouldn't let people scare you off from using them, since there really is no way of someone knowing or Square knowing.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I dont think somebody is that "brave" enough to post screenshots of their modded characters in this forum.
Reshade is not a mod... .

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there's loads

Mods only show what the game is actually capable of, yet SE refuses to do because “specs”, or “not a priority at this point in time” which just means no, we are too lazy to do that, and don’t want to.

Imagine glam actually looking like those mods (the appropriate ones lol) that would be neat.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I dont think somebody is that "brave" enough to post screenshots of their modded characters in this forum.
Reshade is not a mod... .

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Many of the mod websites have pics of the mods as well as users who are using them. There are both NSFW areas and SFW areas. I suspect a google search would give you options to look at.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Many of the mod websites have pics of the mods as well as users who are using them. There are both NSFW areas and SFW areas. I suspect a google search would give you options to look at.

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Google search is not official forums

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

Google search is not official forums

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I know but mods aren't allowed to my knowledge and posting them here isn't a good idea in my opinion even if they are SFW.

Officially it's not allowed, Unofficially they wont really care too much for cosmetic stuff or that since it doesn't affect core mechanics of the game. Generally the majority of MMO's don't care for cosmetical modifications it's only when it's used for cheating or that where it become's an issue. My guess is your asking because of WOW's recent ban wave eh? Believe that only happened because the method used to modify the game was also being used for cheating as well, rumor's there is they quickly reversed this because they realised they'd just banned a 1/4 of their remaining playerbase as well as the fact they know the vast majority weren't cheaters.

If remember right GM said once in forums that using Enb or Reshade wasn't against the rules and that they wouldn't do anything to ones that used it. Could see if a mod gives you advantage over others. Then think they would do something about it.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Wait, does that mean I should be reporting 50% of people on the "Show your x!" forums, as some of them are clearly using modded shaders/textures in some of them.

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Considering Photoshop is a thing, there's no proof from just a still image that the person posting the image is using any mods, too.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Wait, does that mean I should be reporting 50% of people on the "Show your x!" forums, as some of them are clearly using modded shaders/textures in some of them.

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Shaders and post production effects are allowed.
It'd be hard to prove one is using that or pre-processing filters.

Almost everyone i know uses some kind of Mod in this game xD.

i wish i could mod the game's font to be the one from 1.0 and maybe some hd textures but beyond that i don't care for mods

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Wait, does that mean I should be reporting 50% of people on the "Show your x!" forums, as some of them are clearly using modded shaders/textures in some of them.

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Using software to modify the brightness, shadows, contrast and so on of the game? I'm pretty sure this isn't against the rules. I use the Nvidia game filter now which is sorta like reshade. These aren't changing the game files or data, it's adjusting what's being output from your video card to your screen.

I think its a grey area, like with dps meters, if you don't brag about it or make very obvious screenshots with them, they won't do anything.
But keep in mind there's always a risk with these things. And square can ban you for any reason.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Could see if a mod gives you advantage over others. Then think they would do something about it.

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Mods could make people enjoy Mogstation items without having to buy them, so I can see why this can be a problem.

Mods are against Tos, Just as much as Bots, and Parsers.



But I have never heard of anyone being banned for it. It is a do at your own risk and do not talk about it kind of thing.



But if they ever do add a say "File Check" like Archeage... you could end up banned for doing it and it would be 100% your own fault if you mod as we all agreed to not modify the files when we play the game.

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

Mods could make people enjoy Mogstation items without having to buy them, so I can see why this can be a problem.

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From what I've been reading, the modding community self-moderates with this and doesn't allow for Mogstation items to be put up.

I have seen a couple of stories about people being suspended/banned for mods. However they were basically turning the game into porn and posting it all over social media along with their in game names/server. I am sure that doing such things would enrage the creators of this game. Making something prettier is one thing. Completely debasing the content for the sake of a hand shandy is something else entirely.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

From what I've been reading, the modding community self-moderates with this and doesn't allow for Mogstation items to be put up.

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There are already several sites where you get the Lyse and the new Minfilia Outfit as a Mod, and it's been already reported from a few People to SE.
Not everybody sticks to the rules the Mod-Community is putting up.

I really wish people wouldn't use them simply because it messes up my glams (invisible hands for example) and turns the looks I worked for without mods into a mess. The less I hear and see of them, the better. Keep it in a discord or reddit. I wont see their character as some long haired, lace lingerie wearing model anyway.

Yeah honestly it does really bother me that other players would see my character in a way I did not intend her to be seen.
Especially when folks use those nudie mods....

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I dont think somebody is that "brave" enough to post screenshots of their modded characters in this forum.
Reshade is not a mod... .

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Okay cool, was just wondering. Saw one person ask someone in one of those threads "How'd you get your character to look that good" (referring to reshade) and the other person didn't answer, while others told him it was a mod.
There is one person I am pretty sure uses a mod, since the eyes, hair and skin textures look quite a bit different, but I am not sure

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I dont think somebody is that "brave" enough to post screenshots of their modded characters in this forum.
Reshade is not a mod... .

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Oh there are TONS of people posting modded characters in those threads.
Unless there are body hair and nipple options I'm not aware of that is...
Though you can't really prove it's not just a REALLY GOOD edit..

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Originally Posted by Roda

Yeah honestly it does really bother me that other players would see my character in a way I did not intend her to be seen.
Especially when folks use those nudie mods....

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This bothers me a lot as well and is why I refuse to wear certain items I know are modded a lot. We had incidents back when mods first came out of people gleefully showing people what their characters looked like with those sets turned on and it just turned me way off of ever using something like the Thavnarian Bustier or Bolero. Otherwise I don't much care about my character not looking as intended with SFW outfits so long as I don't have to see it.

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Originally Posted by Valor_C

There are already several sites where you get the Lyse and the new Minfilia Outfit as a Mod, and it's been already reported from a few People to SE.
Not everybody sticks to the rules the Mod-Community is putting up.

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This. I think the discord community refuses to allow it but the secondary sites don't care. Though I'm pretty sure the only Minfilia outfits I've seen are direct modifications of the item and thus require you to buy it. Though I could be wrong. Either way I cringe every time I see screenshots of people dressed in Lyse or Alma's outfits because SE would be totally in their rights to see it as lost revenue if they even did release those outfits.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Oh there are TONS of people posting modded characters in those threads.
Unless there are body hair and nipple options I'm not aware of that is...
Though you can't really prove it's not just a REALLY GOOD edit..

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Maybe I'm just blind, but after going dozens of pages in "Show your X!" -threads, didn't really spot anything out of ordinary.

As for mods, for example in World of Warcraft, people started to use them back in "vanilla", and are still using them - despite Blizzards attempts to cripple their usage now and then. I remember reading news how WoW "killed" their use, but eventually people once again found way to get their mods back in. Sadly each time it just made modding WoW more and more "malicious", as originally they were simple drag-and-drop files, but nowadays you need that cheating program that triggered WoW's latest major ban-wave.

The line between WoW modding and straight-up cheating/botting is so thin due to Blizzards restrictive new settings, that they even went and un-banned tons of active botters. So it begs to question, is it really worth meddling with modding if it's not really harming game? Do we really want to repeat what Blizzard did with World of Warcraft?

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Originally Posted by Gula

I really wish people wouldn't use them simply because it messes up my glams (invisible hands for example) and turns the looks I worked for without mods into a mess. The less I hear and see of them, the better. Keep it in a discord or reddit. I wont see their character as some long haired, lace lingerie wearing model anyway.

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I've had the same thought. Individually-set appearance mods in a communal game seem like a messy business, because each person's setup would be different and it becomes hard to control how a character appears to other players.

It seems far easier when everyone is on the same page, even if that page doesn't have exactly what I'd like to have available on it. I put a lot of work into picking outfits for my characters, and I don't want them to come across looking like something else.

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Originally Posted by Enla

[nude mods] bothers me a lot as well and is why I refuse to wear certain items I know are modded a lot. We had incidents back when mods first came out of people gleefully showing people what their characters looked like with those sets turned on and it just turned me way off of ever using something like the Thavnarian Bustier or Bolero.

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Please tell me the Thavnairian Sarouel is safe.