Love how we can question this:
http://www.liberaldictionary.com/wp-...photograph.jpg
but not this:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160409001706
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Love how we can question this:
http://www.liberaldictionary.com/wp-...photograph.jpg
but not this:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160409001706
Because wheeled vehicles already exists. They're just not known by the term "car".
Like many things of its ilk, the Regalia is not canon. It's a nod to the players and has no impact into the story of the game. Mounts are just cosmetic goodies layered onto the functional system and are rarely in the story outside of specific plot points.
It's the same "believeability" of NPCs saying they will meet you half way around the world and travel there the long way yet still beat you there while you utilize instantaneous aetherial teleportation (which IS a canon mode of transportation in the lore and this paradox is jokingly referenced in a quest at one point). A camera would kind of fit into the same concept, if you're talking about something for the players with gpose, but there's no system of sort to really rationalize cameras.
I kinda agree with the OP.
This (especially since everyone and their grandmother will be obnoxiously driving it EVERYWHERE) severely breaks the immersion. Its stile is completely at odds with the "canon" FF14.
I imagine we'll be seeing a lot more things like that when we go through Garlemald. It's only unfitting the aesthetics we saw so far because we're in "savage" territories.
And like said before, we didn't question the concept of a camera, so much as we didn't know what it was. Garlemald has sensors in their airships, they're able to navigate without there being windows on the bridge (Maxima's ship, for instance). Don't confuse Eorzea being behind technologically with technological advancements not existing in the world at large.
Besides, say what you will, the Mana Cutter is very much canon. The major difference between it and the Regalia is that the Regalia is a hybrid with wheels whereas the Mana Cutter is always hovering.
You also have to consider when you can do this event which is right after 2.0 story has been done where the most technological advanced thing was ultima weapon which was a primal slaying monstrously sized mech, this car is then the next most advanced thing and its purely ironworks creation after cid looks and probably reversed engineered blueprints when working on fixing ffxv's version.
@Malzian ofc many things aren't canon within the contents of the story but within this collaberation's own story a car doesn't make us bat an eye but we have no idea what a photograph is and can actually question it, this is where i see the logic fault :P
One of the things I think can be pretty exciting is that we only see military Garlean stuff. Take a moment and picture military establishments, especially quickly built ones, in real life.
There is a strong difference between the features and visuals of a military experience (outpost, buildings, vehicles, gear) than there is with the civilian experience. In this I believe we could be seeing some very visually appealing and advance civilian life styles for the deeply technologically advanced civilizations in our game. With the battleships Garlean's have, like the one that destroyed the silvertear lake, there is no way we don't have cameras in Eorzea except unless SE just wants to because they can (like Fallout games are both advanced and "old" style).
Well everyone was confused by the Regalia. They knew it was a type of machine just not one they've ever seen before. Photography as far as we know does not exist on Eorzea. The Regalia is strange but familiar. The concept of a photo is unknown.
Cars are the breaking point for immersion when we have a Magitek empire who invaded us with a fleet of airships--one of which, crashed, remains in Mor Dhona to this day with Middy's corpse giving it a big ol' hug? Bipedal war machina are cool too. But a four wheeled vehicle? Dude, my immersion. Gunblades? Cool. Motorcycles? Dude, my immersion. FFXIV isn't high-fantasy where we only have magic, it's a fairly technologically advanced world.
that is the thing everyone but us questions the car yet we do question what a photograph is its a little inconsistent within the collab
also like to point out i didn't mean to bring 'immersion' into it just wanted to highlight the inconsistency that our character acts within the collab story, i'm very much of the opinion if its treated as canon i will treat it as canon if it ain't its for fun :P
You do question it. But the car is right there in front of you. Photo is just a word he says at first until he shows you, and still without any explanation of what happened.
actually it makes logical sense, garlemald has magitek, they have airships, tanks, metal gears, flying chimneys, massive flying battleships, all in their military, the regalia doesnt fit the aesthetic of garlemald BUT we do have a (very pertinent to us especially) frame of reference to attribute it to
a camera on the other hand, is something we have never interacted with, and since photography doesnt exist in even a basic sense in eorzea and most of the world and the whole like 3 times weve ever seen anything capable of video playback its presented as either rare allagan tech/mystical tree (which i think still surprised the wol when it happened) or the giant garlean viewscreens in the prima vista, or omega level tech (big honkin crt monitors left to cid to fiddle with while we worried about the world ending), so someone suddenly pulling out their personal phone/camera and taking a picture of us is an act for which we have no initial frame of reference and therefore it would surprise us
itd be like if i pulled out a gun irl that shot lightning itd be an unusual outcome to an expected thing, if i summoned an eldritch horror though thats much scarier even if the horror was named tim and it was a great enchanter :p
It's called crossover for a reason.
It brings le memories from Eos here...
So, it's nostalgic. Why logic?
Also peeps making a fuss over the car, gawd, if it was as SDS at the Mog the feeling of exclusivity would be more rewarding?
I think people shall enjoy more. A crossover is that, bringing memories of a game into another. Nothing absurd.
I don't really see the problem with the Regalia. Cid himself mentions immediately that it looks similar to Garlean design. It stands to reason that anyone else seeing it would also believe it to be Garlean, or at the very least, another Ironworks invention. Ironworks is pretty damn prolific in Eorzea. They've built airships, repurposed Magitek armors, are practically creating the bleeding edge of Eorzean technology, and so on. What makes any of you think they couldn't create a car? Especially when Cid is given more than enough time to make schematics of the original Regalia while he fixes it.
Like for real, it takes barely any brain power to make Regalia "immersive" in the FFXIV world.