[dev1242][dev1244] Recipe Revisions and Additions

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/38788

When it rains, it pours.

C'mon third front page post with dungeon video!



Also yay for buff potions and food being useful/knowing what it does via item description.

ZOMG

Potions
Hi Potions
MEGA POTIONS
and ethers!

And alchemy recipies are skipping a step and going from base mats to potion, not having to go to powder in between

Love this. Will be farming many materials tomorrow to be ready for patch day.

Saw legendary fish in that list, does that mean fishing might have just gotten more exciting?

Those cul recipes are just as annoying as the old ones.

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Originally Posted by Madruk

Those cul recipes are just as annoying as the old ones.

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Indeed they are. I was under the impression that they were going to simplify the amount of ingredients required to make food/drink.

they said cooking recipe are of 2 fashions: less material with weaker effects, lots of mats but enhanced potency

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/38788

When it rains, it pours.

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These [dev1242][dev1244] tags are supposed to be posted under "tags" when you create a thread, not in the title - just in case you didn't realize that ^^

Woooo Elixir ^^

I'm glad with the new/revamped recipes, incl. CUL, i wouldn't expect to have wonderful meals with 1 or 2 ingredients.
BUT I still have a big BUT: where are new recipes to got cluster>crystals>shards ??

Or at least reintroduce astral/umbral moraines?

I'm still glad to get clusters in leves chests, but they kinda feel useless ; ;

Wow gonna have to lvl alchemy now!!!! As for cul recipes lots of things are simpler and there are totally new recipes. I like that steaks are now just base meat garlic and pepper 3 ingredients instead of 6 like before. Some didnt change at all but since I have mats for most im not upset. I so can't wait to see what effects they all have so I can make for linkshell and friends.

Glad I lvld it hopin they would fix food and they did nice!! And Goldsmiths should be happy as well as leatherworkers.

Meldable rings, earrings, etc. yay! My GLD is finally gonna get a workout :D

Not really for goldsmiths. Each basic accessory like rings and earring is about x4 more expensive as it uses one ingot (2.66 - 3 ores) per synth as opposed to 2 nuggets (0.66 ores) per synth.

Thankfully the dated recipies dont seem to have been removed, so people can still use the old grinding paths

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Originally Posted by Quesse

Meldable rings, earrings, etc. yay! My GLD is finally gonna get a workout :D

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meldable? wut?

don't think they will be meldable. Sure they are no longer Dated, but since there is no materia that can be slotted into any of the accessory slots. Nor have they mentioned accessory melding in the latest post, or the previous post when they annonced the reforms in the first place

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

Not really for goldsmiths. Each basic accessory like rings and earring is about x4 more expensive as it uses one ingot (2.66 - 3 ores) per synth as opposed to 2 nuggets (0.66 ores) per synth.

Thankfully the dated recipies dont seem to have been removed, so people can still use the old grinding paths

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Right up until the last nugget on the server is used up.

... which will only happen once they remove the nuggets synth .... which is still available .... and won't be leaving until they remove all of the dated recipies and items.

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

... which will only happen once they remove the nuggets synth .... which is still available ....

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It is? Could have sworn that the nuggets went by by with the rest of the component synths.

It is kind of confusing. When the first recipie overhaul took place we were left with a lot of broken synth chains. E.g. Before you took Ore to Nuggets to Ingots to Wire to Chain. Now they made it so it is Ore to Ingots to Chain. The Ore to Nuggets and the Ingots to Wire still works, You just can't use Nuggets to Ingots or Wire to Chain anymore.

Dang, was hoping Alchemist would be able to synth some player made raise potions. Would of been a nice way to get some easy bank with the jobs and all... but I'm more than satisfied with what we have now. Hurray for steroids.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

Meldable rings, earrings, etc. yay! My GLD is finally gonna get a workout :D

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um, it doesnt say this anywhere on any post theyve ever made

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

um, it doesnt say this anywhere on any post theyve ever made

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They aren't U/U .... what other group of non-dated gear is unmeldable???

So you're telling me its going to be this giant group of non-dated gear with an UNMELDABLE tag? That doesn't make sense.

I believe devs has alraedy clarified that accs aren't gonna be meldable.

Yeah, has been posted that accessories wont be meldable.

LAME

wow goldsmith keeps getting pushed to the gutter.

Hey at least we new inns where we can view cutscenes and stand around and do nothing to get exp bonus.

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Originally Posted by Madruk

Those cul recipes are just as annoying as the old ones.

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I am disappoint. :(

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Originally Posted by Quesse

LAME

wow goldsmith keeps getting pushed to the gutter.

Hey at least we new inns where we can view cutscenes and stand around and do nothing to get exp bonus.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

They aren't U/U .... what other group of non-dated gear is unmeldable???

So you're telling me its going to be this giant group of non-dated gear with an UNMELDABLE tag? That doesn't make sense.

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ALL gear that isnt in one of the main slots


Melding is specific to gear slots for weapons, secondary, head, body, legs, feet arms and waist

it does not work on jewelry period, they even said it originaly that it wouldnt be for jewelry


now, a question, do you perhaps mean that itl be spritbindable(unlike UU gear)?

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Originally Posted by Madruk

Those cul recipes are just as annoying as the old ones.

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Hi Madruk and All,

I agree it's a bit disheartening to see New Culinarian Recipes still using 8 (EIGHT) Ingredients per Synth. :(

If they're going to be super potent / powerful, sure, but we'll have to see.

Otherwise, I'm really happy to see the New Goldsmith Recipes (and 3 different tiers of potential Rings, Bracelets, etc.), as well as the Alchemy revisions.

Hi Potion
Mega Potion
Elixirs

Joy! :)

Some classic Final Fantasy items are returning. I hope we eventually see Megalixir (ラストエリクサー) as well. :)

Have they said if they were getting rid of the nugget recipe? Cause at the moment, i have about 12 stacks of iron squares to use for my Armorer!

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Originally Posted by Xelsiar

Have they said if they were getting rid of the nugget recipe? Cause at the moment, i have about 12 stacks of iron squares to use for my Armorer!

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old recipes are supposed to be going out in 1.22 so you got 2 months at least

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

ALL gear that isnt in one of the main slots


Melding is specific to gear slots for weapons, secondary, head, body, legs, feet arms and waist

it does not work on jewelry period, they even said it originaly that it wouldnt be for jewelry


now, a question, do you perhaps mean that itl be spritbindable(unlike UU gear)?

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I wonder if they'll change that since accessories are being condensed. Earrings are just one slot now. Either way, when it comes to melding materia, I guess Goldsmith definitely gets the short end of the stick compared to other crafts. I know they need to balance everything still, its taking forever. The 'new' recipes they added are just more of the same. Or less of the same if you look at how much more raw material is needed.

Most cul recipes seem to have removed things that are npc only like sour red for steaks. Steaks are now just meat garlic and salt or pepper. Not perfect but better. Sadly I got used to 8 ingredients for cooking anyway but I do feel your pain.
Working on alchemy now because potions sound like game changers.

Hey guys! We combined Yoshida's posts about why he removed the recipe list from the recent topics announcement.

And here it is!

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

Producer/Director Yoshida here.
I’d like to inform you of the current status.

There was old data used in development that was mixed into the list of recipes that was posted on topics (materials and recipes themselves) and we are currently making the necessary edits to this content.

In order to prevent any more confusion, we have taken down the recipes that were released on topics and will be posting the corrected list tomorrow.

Also, when this is done we plan on updating the vague list that was announced previously for items that may not be used in recipes by breaking it down into two lists: “items that we will definitely not use in the future” and “items that we will possibly reuse name wise.”

Today we are doing exhaustive checks between the development side and the list, and we will be releasing the list tomorrow for everyone to see. We apologize for any confusion this might have caused, but please sit tight for the official list to be released.

Please note that there have been no changes to the patch release date at this time due to this.
Once again, I am sorry for any trouble this has caused.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Producer/Director Yoshida here.
I’d like to inform you of the current status.

There was old data used in development that was mixed into the list of recipes that was posted on topics (materials and recipes themselves) and we are currently making the necessary edits to this content.

In order to prevent any more confusion, we have taken down the recipes that were released on topics and will be posting the corrected list tomorrow.

Also, when this is done we plan on updating the vague list that was announced previously for items that may not be used in recipes by breaking it down into two lists: “items that we will definitely not use in the future” and “items that we will possibly reuse name wise.”

Today we are doing exhaustive checks between the development side and the list, and we will be releasing the list tomorrow for everyone to see. We apologize for any confusion this might have caused, but please sit tight for the official list to be released.

Please note that there have been no changes to the patch release date at this time due to this.
Once again, I am sorry for any trouble this has caused.

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Saved by the boss hehe,
I heard JP people were pretty mad because the delete some food they tough they werent going to use anymore.

I bet it was the legendary fish....

I can't think of any other "old' info.

Please tell me that sanding 6 fish and then converting to 1 fine sand is going to be the only way to convert most crystals into shards, thats... more than unreasonable, especially if the alchemy reform doesn't address it.

Please give us an effective cluster >crystal >shard conversion method again.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

I bet it was the legendary fish....

I can't think of any other "old' info.

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"Old data" could simply refer to an older version of the food revision. In other words, it could be anything.

That being said, some of the supposedly changed recipes looked a lot like the existing ones to me. I didn't check them item by item, but I noticed that many food recipes still need the same amount of ingredients as before, and those ingredients looked pretty familiar too. Stuffed Cabbage, Shepherd's Pie and Knight's Bread for example. But we'll find out tomorrow either way ~

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Please tell me that sanding 6 fish and then converting to 1 fine sand is going to be the only way to convert most crystals into shards, thats... more than unreasonable, especially if the alchemy reform doesn't address it.

Please give us an effective cluster >crystal >shard conversion method again.

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Yeah it's a bit ridicolous... Especially when you consider they don't sell Fine Sand at NPCs anymore (it was reasonably priced so I didn't mind). What are we going to do with all these crystals and clusters?

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Originally Posted by Colino

Yeah it's a bit ridicolous... Especially when you consider they don't sell Fine Sand at NPCs anymore (it was reasonably priced so I didn't mind). What are we going to do with all these crystals and clusters?

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I'm hoping SE can take a hint and implements higher lvl recipes that use crystals and clusters instead of shards. Or maybe crystals and clusters can be used for batch synthesis and the remainder becomes shards...