Please learn to die on your own (no really, stop stacking the AOE)

One of my biggest pet peeve is when someone constantly drops an AOE on the entire party. Not so much in beginner dungeons but in end-game content like last-boss Monastery etc. It's fine if it happens once but when it happens over and over again and when someone in the chat says "Please don't bring your AOE to the party" and you still continue to do it, why do you still do it? It's probably the very first boss mechanic you learned and you still don't know how it works? I see people running from one corner of the screen going straight to the party with an AOE marker, why?

If you have an AOE marker, bring it to the edge of the universe, don't bring it back to the party and especially don't stack with other players who have it and so help you if you do this on the healers. I don't know if people do it on purpose / as a joke, but you should know better.

If you have a stack marker and only one person is around, don't go stacking on that person knowing perfectly well that nobody else will stack and both of you will die. Instead, kindly die on your own and a healer will resurrect you soon.

I think they dont like dying alone.

I see this so much in o12n where the person with the individual aoe marker stacks with the stack marker its like just go away yer idiot >_>

It ain't Duty Finder unless someone is trying to wipe the party.

And then you get the people who run away with the stack marker. Especially on Nidhogg.
Stupidity finds a way.

I dun wanna kill my own alliance party so I'm obviously going to kill yours. This is my findish and convoluted plot to rack up as many Samaritan achievement points for my healers and wipe your main tank so that my off tank becomes the glorious main tank he was destined to be.



Muwahahhaha

I don't think those people are gonna see your post. It's been out for awhile, but some people are still just catching up. If someone makes a mistake, then they make mistakes. Players are human and flawed people behind that monitor of yours after all.

Server connections/ping can lead to these issues. A Also some people can be forgetful as they haven't done the content for a while and it's a one and done situation. So I wouldn't say it's justified to hate on everyone for that alone.

However people moving Akh Mhorn stack markers FAR away from the group (Looking at you Niddhog/Midgar), or going into the wrong alliance group so they deal with two stack markers (Looking at you Ozma/Hashmal), that's when it's fair to critique it.

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Originally Posted by Gula

I don't think those people are gonna see your post. It's been out for awhile, but some people are still just catching up. If someone makes a mistake, then they make mistakes. Players are human and flawed people behind that monitor of yours after all.

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Unless you're on a JP server where a good 90% of the time everyone just magically does everything

The 24 man's are notorious for this, the people with no markers stack somewheres away and then someone with a marker always has to drop an aoe on you..
So much for perfect runs when you have to deal with people like that.

And also the stack markers that also fails alot.

This happens so much in Orbonne's final fight. Sometimes I feel like people are deliberately trying to assassinate me. Or... really want my attention.

"HEY HEALER, I NEED HELP! I'M GOING TO RUN AT YOU SO YOU NOTICE ME, OK?"

But seriously, a lot of this comes from panic. When first encountering this mechanic in any fight, most people don't know how long their AoE takes to go off so they just pick a direction and run.
Once you know how much time you have, it's easier make on-the-fly decisions like "okay we're both running in the same direction, I have 2 seconds left, it is enough to either change direction or come to a full stop"

So it's not just me.

I come out of Orbonne every time pissed off. About every time people come and drop AOE's on me. Last time I was standing in a corner with my AOE and a SAM runs to me with his to overlap the AOE's, killing us both.

Some people have admitted that they drop AOE's on lalas on purpose. I'm inclined to believe that, 24 mans are quite un-enjoyable for me nowadays because of 23 stacks of player debuff on top of my own mistakes.

I think its rather entertaining when someone runs with his aoe marker into the party. Its a perfect way to check who pays attention and who does not.

I don't necessarily run into a group with them, I generally just sit still and let everyone else adjust, regardless of where I am.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

I don't necessarily run into a group with them, I generally just sit still and let everyone else adjust, regardless of where I am.

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This is the best way to do this since people like to run into the same direction as the person with the marker over their head.

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Originally Posted by Ilan

This is the best way to do this since people like to run into the same direction as the person with the marker over their head.

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It's the same as some mechanics, the fire/water pool one for Ferdidad comes to mind. I usually just do my thing while I let people figure them out. Chances are that five people step into the same one as I do five times in a row and it still ends up wrong.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

I don't necessarily run into a group with them, I generally just sit still and let everyone else adjust, regardless of where I am.

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I do the same since anytime I have tried to move myself, everyone ends up coming with me anyway.

There's a thread for that kind of stuff: Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

There's a thread for that kind of stuff: Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Wee woo wee woo, it's the fun police. Everybody run!

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Originally Posted by Aellae

It's the same as some mechanics, the fire/water pool one for Ferdidad comes to mind. I usually just do my thing while I let people figure them out. Chances are that five people step into the same one as I do five times in a row and it still ends up wrong.

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I died so often to something because i tried to avoid others and we ran in the same direction so i'm just not moving anymore and let everyone else go away. Works way better since people are running around like headless chickens anyway.
I never did the puddles there because people just switched them back anyway. :D

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Originally Posted by Noitems

Also some people can be forgetful as they haven't done the content for a while and it's a one and done situation.

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The stack up arrows has been used repeatedly throughout the game.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

I don't necessarily run into a group with them, I generally just sit still and let everyone else adjust, regardless of where I am.

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Can you even run as a talking fish? I think what you're doing is perfect for your kind and people should expect that!

(People won't understand what i'm talking about once you stop wearing your namazu mask)

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Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis

Can you even run as a talking fish? I think what you're doing is perfect for your kind and people should expect that!

(People won't understand what i'm talking about once you stop wearing your namazu mask)

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Healers adjust, yes yes.

You could write a book about all the mechanics players in this game fail at

It could also be coming in from other mmos. In WoW for example some aoe's will flat out one-shot any single character, but the damage is designed to be spread around. However, some aoes will almost one shot a group of people which means if they are not already healthy they're dead. If they both occur in the same fight (not uncommon) I could have trouble remembering which was which.

Also cannot account for pinball avatars (also me) where I coincidentally end up running towards the same open space someone else was aiming for.

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Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis

One of my biggest pet peeve is when someone constantly drops an AOE on the entire party. Not so much in beginner dungeons but in end-game content like last-boss Monastery etc. It's fine if it happens once but when it happens over and over again and when someone in the chat says "Please don't bring your AOE to the party" and you still continue to do it, why do you still do it? It's probably the very first boss mechanic you learned and you still don't know how it works? I see people running from one corner of the screen going straight to the party with an AOE marker, why?

If you have an AOE marker, bring it to the edge of the universe, don't bring it back to the party and especially don't stack with other players who have it and so help you if you do this on the healers. I don't know if people do it on purpose / as a joke, but you should know better.

If you have a stack marker and only one person is around, don't go stacking on that person knowing perfectly well that nobody else will stack and both of you will die. Instead, kindly die on your own and a healer will resurrect you soon.

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I have to admit, I get confused between the main quest boss fights. I died twice playing a new boss just an hour ago, one of those where you have to group together to share the aoe. They mocked me for running from them to the edge of the map. ^^;

I still see players run off with the aoe stack marker. Seriously, with the amount of fights that have that marker you'd think after 60+ levels they would realize to stop running away from everyone. Looking at you Lakshmi pugs.

I've noticed this alot when playing on BLM. Out of the entire team, players seem to go out of their way to drop on specifically me and only when I'm BLM. XD. It's like people take the whole "BLMs stand in aeos for the sake of dps" thing way to literally. Lol

But more on point, yeah I certainly feel ya. If it happens once, fine, but it really gets under my skin when players with an Aoe move from a safe spot TOWARDS the party for no apparent reason.

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

Wee woo wee woo, it's the fun police. Everybody run!

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Yeah, sorry. Please keep making this forum a complete mess with a ton of completly worthless threads appearing on a daily basis.
I realize that me trying to make it a better place so that people provide useful feedback that is going to be heard and forwarded is pointless. It's far too late.
My bad for ruining your "fun".

Ahaha. Making useless threads is so fun. Ahah. Fun, fun, fun.
... I'm trying my best, don't judge me.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

You could write a book about all the mechanics players in this game fail at

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It's a pretty short book(unless you go into details).

Chapter 1: EVERYTHING!

The End

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Yeah, sorry. Please keep making this forum a complete mess with a ton of completly worthless threads appearing on a daily basis.
I realize that me trying to make it a better place so that people provide useful feedback that is going to be heard and forwarded is pointless. It's far too late.
My bad for ruining your "fun".

Ahaha. Making useless threads is so fun. Ahah. Fun, fun, fun.
... I'm trying my best, don't judge me.

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Who hurt you, my child?

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Yeah, sorry. Please keep making this forum a complete mess with a ton of completly worthless threads appearing on a daily basis.
I realize that me trying to make it a better place so that people provide useful feedback that is going to be heard and forwarded is pointless. It's far too late.
My bad for ruining your "fun".

Ahaha. Making useless threads is so fun. Ahah. Fun, fun, fun.
... I'm trying my best, don't judge me.

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You must be new to forums in general.

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Originally Posted by Astrus

And then you get the people who run away with the stack marker. Especially on Nidhogg.
Stupidity finds a way.

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To be truly fair, final Nidhogg is the first time that the stack marker is used in main scenario content, since I hear that most new players blaze through the msq, ignoring all the old raids, alliance raids and ex primals nowadays, which is where the marker is used more frequently.

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Originally Posted by Bonbori

This happens so much in Orbonne's final fight. Sometimes I feel like people are deliberately trying to assassinate me. Or... really want my attention.

"HEY HEALER, I NEED HELP! I'M GOING TO RUN AT YOU SO YOU NOTICE ME, OK?"

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I was going to mention the same thing. So often I yell at my screen, "Are you TRYING to kill me!!" Sometimes I wish I can cast a knockback on a player. I actually don't find it that common for players to run towards the melees, so if I don't get a split damage marker, I tend to run to the bosses hitbox to avoid getting hit.

Also annoys the hell out of me when I get the split marker and everyone seems to think I have cooties are something, but it is definitely more common for someone to get a stack marker and run for the hills. Rescue is great for these occasions.

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Originally Posted by dragonkyn20

Who hurt you, my child?

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People like you. And I'm telling mommy.

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Originally Posted by Vanitas

You must be new to forums in general.

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You've been registered on the forums two months before me. You know these forums used to be better, without the first page being filled with worthless threads.
Today, people will create a new thread every time the wind blows. And they will reach multiple pages in a few hours.

I simply can't see that complete lack of self-restraint and moderation to be a healthy environment to provide useful feedback. A lot of interesting stuff and ideas must fly under the CM's radar due to the enormous amount of worthless stuff thrown around.
The official forums are mocked and are considered a meme, firstly for the harsh ban habits of the mods, but now for its terrible content. People often complain that SE doesn't listen to them... but seeing what kind of useless threads get created on a daily basis, it should be time for people to realize that they have a responsability in the lack of interaction from SE on these platforms.

But it seems that, as I said in my previous post, it's probably too late and that nobody actually cares. Especially given the kind of answers I'm getting.

So, again, keep making these forums terrible, people. You're doing great.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

There's a thread for that kind of stuff: Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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With over 2000 pages and completely random discussions about duty finder. It's a thread started from 2015 no-less.

This thread was started with the sole purpose of educating players about how boss markers affect other players and what to do when you get them. But you know, we can have 10 threads if you want, each of them we can fill up with tens of thousands of replies. Would that be better for you?

The issue is people who don't pay attention to mechanics ever make it to endgame content and don't know the difference between any of the AoE markers and their icons which clearly show you what their result will be. People will just assume they run away with everything or they run to a party with everything there's almost no in between.