Extremely High GPU Temperatures:

Out of curiosity, I was curious what temperatures people are running this game on? I checked both the EVGA Precision Tool and the MSI Afterburner and my GTX560ti has been reading at near 80-88c consistently! Now I realize this card is supposedly capable of running up to 105c, but I'll be honest and say I panicked a little when it actually reached 92c one night.

For starters, here is my setup:

i7 2600k, overclocked to 4.2 GHZ
EVGA Superclocked 560ti DS @ stock settings
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHZ DDR3 RAM
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM
Crucial M4 128GB SSD Sata 3
ASUS Z68 Pro Motherboard (I forgot the exact model number...but you get the idea)

The case is a Thermaltake Commander; not the best thing out there...but until I get some funds for a HAF, I am compensating but placing some extra casing fans to draw and push out the excess hot air.

So all in all, I thought this setup would be more than fine to run FFXIV at max settings; I get that the 560ti could be replaced with a GTX580 or something along those lines...but here's thing:

I get perfectly fine FPS, and the only time I really lag is when I run through the Bazaar/Market Wards area in Ul'dah.

The CPU is staying perfectly fine at roughly 45-48c under load. Here are my settings: (in no particular order)

Texture Filtering: Highest
Model Texture: High
Shadow Details: Highest
General Drawing: 8 (for some reason, I get a huge drop in performance at max)
Background Drawing: 5 (High)
Multisampling: 8x CSAA
Window Size: 1920x1080 (native resolution)

AO is set to OFF
DoF is set to ON (for reference, I tried turning this off and saw no temperature change)

I have been Googling the last few days and it seems other people have the issue of this game making their GPU run extremely hot. I get that the code is not very well optimized, but I'm wondering if there's a particular setting I should be turning down?

I have forced vsync and triple buffering on via NVidia Control Panel and saw about 2-5c drop, so that has helped a little bit. For testing purposes, I actually turned a few settings way down--standard drawing, background, shadows, and model textures as well as multisampling to 4x. To my surprise, I saw nearly a 20c drop!

I'm not sure if it's just one of those culprits causing the GPU to heat up or if it's a combination...I've even tried forcing the GPU fans to 100% and it was still easily going past 75c. I have been running a custom fan profile to begin with, where the fan's ramp up 20% or so at every 20 degrees higher than 40 up to 100%. I'm just really boggled here as I've purchased numerous steam games over the holiday break and I've ran each and every one of them flawlessly at maxed settings without my GPU temps exceeding the 65-70c range.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and if you require more info--I'll be more than happy to give them.

EDIT: I am running the game in windowed mode, for additional info's sake.

Using a laptop that barely meets requirements for the game ;D

GPU usually gets to around ~90C or so normally when running around gathering and whatnot, ~70-80C when fighting NMs

The hottest I ever saw it get to was 113C ; ; I need a new computer.

MSI afterburner includes that.. combuster app, was it called? Test your GPU on full load with it, if you land on roughly the same temps then i guess it's normal for your card?

Interesting thing is, I run the game with AO/DoF off, 8xMSAA and both general and drawing distance set to max on a 260GTX (MSI twin frozr) and I'm not having any significant performance drops (40-50fps, 30 in crowded places). Only difference I see is you playing windowed mode and me playing fullscreen. It does make a difference, but it shouldn't be that big.

Even though I kinda doubt it, it could be a hardware defect of some sort, producing higher load on your GPU. You could try running OCCT instead of combuster, it has an error checking mode.

My temps are 60-64°C btw.

The hotter the hardware the better the heatsink works <.<
80°C is pretty normal for a desktop GPU running this game. 100°C is normal for a mobile CPU running this game. If you don't like that your only option is to get a better heatsink :P

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Originally Posted by Coldfire

The hotter the hardware the better the heatsink works <.<
80°C is pretty normal for a desktop GPU running this game. 100°C is normal for a mobile CPU running this game. If you don't like that your only option is to get a better heatsink :P

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Not really... The normal maximum temp of every GPU is in the 90~°C. If you hit around that you should be worried...

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Originally Posted by Signy

Not really... The normal maximum temp of every GPU is in the 90~°C. If you hit around that you should be worried...

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Wrong. The maximum temperature for GPUs is often over 100°C. Only some newer nvidia models can't take that much and end up with a maximum temperature of 99°C. And what in that post of me that you quoted there are you even denying???
I don't see any claims about any maximum temperature there. I just stated what is normal for GPUs in this game.
But as I said there is no need to worry as long as your fan works correctly. It will spin up before reaching the maximum temperature and the hotter the GPU is the easier is it to cool it down.

Well you can keep it over 100°C and still be functional but after a long period the hardware will start failing and you will get a nice BSOD or some artifacts. Again, you can leave it hot and will work but is not advisable. OP you should check your fans are fine and if the coolers are clean. If you still get to that kind of temperature you should consider get and aftermarket cooler (with a good thermal paste).

This one is good:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186046

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Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat

Using a laptop that barely meets requirements for the game ;D

GPU usually gets to around ~90C or so normally when running around gathering and whatnot, ~70-80C when fighting NMs

The hottest I ever saw it get to was 113C ; ; I need a new computer.

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Exactly the same with me... Damn laptop. Q Q

I don't even wanna imagine how hot it will get when Hamlet Defense comes... /watcheslaptopexploding

Don't know if this helps you or not but im running a EVGA 460 GTX SE @ 60-70 degrees under 90%+ load, setting are very similar to yours, but I do have DoF off. Also have a Coolmaster HAF you mentioned, you wanted.

Now my CPU on the other hand is different. Under 60%+ load my cpu temp reaches high 80's to sometimes low 90's. Freaks me out. CPU is i5 2500k. Redid my thermal paste on stock heatsink, thinking about aftermarket heat sink now...

Does anyone know how much difference Windowed to Full screen mode helps?

Oh man I understand that situation. I had something similar which my CPU, though it was an AMD Phenom II instead. The stock cooler and the paste it came with were both garbage, running hot and noisy whenever I launched FFXIV. I bought some good paste (in a nail polish bottle), paste remover, and a nice aftermarket sink. Now it's quiet and never goes above 45C. It was running 60-70C before.

Fullscreen definately helps a bit (maybe 5-8%). Limiting frame rate to 30 helps alot but fast movements won't be as smooth anymore.
Getting a 3rd party heatsink is definately a must for highend CPUs. The stock fans are always cheap, small and loud. Don't forget to check if the heatsink you want fits into your case 'cause some are really big. With HAF this shouldn't be an issue though.
The optimal solution would obviously be watercooling, but not everyone has 200-300 bucks loose :P

Beside cooling more your hardware the aftermarket cooler will lower the noise you pc make. I have this PC and is near silent every moment, on idle or full load.

Cooler Master Silent Pro 700W
Phenom II 955 with a Scythe Zipang
Ati HD 4850 with a (Thermalright T-Rad2 with a Noctua 120mm fan)
8GB OCZ DDR2 gold ram

My most loud part is my two WD black 640gb working on a raid 0. I combat it a little disabling the paging file. Also i order a Sapphire 7950 OC edition (that the coolers is really quiet) and i'm waiting to get it.

The CPU is on idle at 40°c and un full load gets to 50°c tops. The GPU on idle is 35°c and on full load tops at 45°c.

Thanks for the suggestions guys...for reference, this is the GPU I'm running on:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

It looked fairly sturdy and reviews seemed good..didn't think I would need to use any sort of aftermarket cooling...and I had this card for less than 2 months (had to replace a dying 6850 than ran out of warranty/RMA benefits...) so I don't *think* it's a hardware defect. For what it's worth, this is the only game that comes close to getting dangerously high temperatures.

As for whoever mentioned hot CPU temps, I'm using a CM Hyper 212+ with artic silver 5 as my thermal paste. It's been pretty reliable so far and I believe you can get that heatsink fairly cheap nowadays with the Evo taking over as the main budget-line-product (I think).

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Originally Posted by Haydest

Thanks for the suggestions guys...for reference, this is the GPU I'm running on:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

It looked fairly sturdy and reviews seemed good..didn't think I would need to use any sort of aftermarket cooling...and I had this card for less than 2 months (had to replace a dying 6850 than ran out of warranty/RMA benefits...) so I don't *think* it's a hardware defect. For what it's worth, this is the only game that comes close to getting dangerously high temperatures.

As for whoever mentioned hot CPU temps, I'm using a CM Hyper 212+ with artic silver 5 as my thermal paste. It's been pretty reliable so far and I believe you can get that heatsink fairly cheap nowadays with the Evo taking over as the main budget-line-product (I think).

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If you have some AC5 left what you can do is take of the VGA cooler, clean GPU and the mems, put some AC5 and set the cooler back. The factory paste is not that good as the AC5, you should get 10~°c less of temp.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

Looking at the exact same heatsink as the CM Hyper 212+ so hopefully will take care of things. Hope your GPU issues come to a resolve as well.

As far as water cooling, cant dish out that much yet haha.

80°C and more is quiet hot for the 560ti and while its within the specifications it wont actually extent your cards lifetime. The downside of non-exhaust cooling solutions is they're heating up your case much more than reference design cards. You really rely on a good airflow in your case else hot air might get stuck and pulled over and over again by the card's fans.

Is this yours? http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...=17158&imgID=2

As for redoing TIM, it helps sometimes but don't expect a miracle. 2-3°C if anything at all. Be careful with Arctic Silver 5 on GPU's as it is conductive and it also has an extremely long cure time. The best compound for graphic cards is IC Diamond.

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Originally Posted by Haydest

General Drawing: 8 (for some reason, I get a huge drop in performance at max)

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9 and 10 are 2x and 4x SSAA (Super-Sampling). No current hardware can handle that well in XIV.
I've 2 heavily overclocked 580's and it is barely playable at 10, 9 works if you just run around and don't get close to any foliage.

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Originally Posted by Franzisca

80°C and more is quiet hot for the 560ti and while its within the specifications it wont actually extent your cards lifetime. The downside of non-exhaust cooling solutions is they're heating up your case much more than reference design cards. You really rely on a good airflow in your case else hot air might get stuck and pulled over and over again by the card's fans.

Is this yours? http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...=17158&imgID=2

As for redoing TIM, it helps sometimes but don't expect a miracle. 2-3°C if anything at all. Be careful with Arctic Silver 5 on GPU's as it is conductive and it also has an extremely long cure time. The best compound for graphic cards is IC Diamond.

9 and 10 are 2x and 4x SSAA (Super-Sampling). No current hardware can handle that well in XIV.
I've 2 heavily overclocked 580's and it is barely playable at 10, 9 works if you just run around and don't get close to any foliage.

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That is my case. I'll say it's certainly nothing short of special, although I really just salvaged it from a previous build and used it as I ran low on money when I was building my new computer. I'm really hopeful that a good quality case will drop the temp's tremendously or at least enough where I don't have to worry about RMAing the GPU back to EVGA within the next 4-6 months.

I don't see why you would need a new one tbh; Equip that one with enough (silent) fans and it's good to go. Put one on the left side blowing air onto your GPU (or alternatively, blowing the air out of the case, test what works better), 2 to blow the air out on top and one taking air in at the front, that should reduce the temps already.

It really depends on how your case is positioned though, in my case there is little space on the sides and at the back, so most air has to be transported out of the top of the case

If you're using MSI Afterburner click off the Auto on the fan and move it up by 10% and it should cool your GPU by a lot. The game engine is just hard on our GPU's. This is the only game I have my GPU go over 75c and that I have to control the fan.

49 .. till a max of 59 C
I added a zalman cooler on my graphic card because my card used to hit the 90's too

have a watercooling complete for cpu and gpu but i am too lazy to install it :P , got it once for free from someone